ACTION – school kids in seats, the elderly left to stand

YapYapYap 13 March 2009 73

I caught the No 5 from Griffith shops to town this afternoon and a little surpriseded to see 35 odd high school students from St Edmunds and St Clares with their arses parked in their seats while two rather elderly passengers were forced to stand for the best part of 30 mins.

In contrast, I was offered a seat by a Narrabundah College student a few weeks ago, on the same route – my mates have been giving me heaps ever since (I’m 47 and had, prior to that occasion, still considered myself one to offer-up a seat rather than the other way around).

Guess that’s what a (relatively) expensive catholic education instills these days. Perhaps the schools themselves can cast a little light on the subject!

Eddies says it is:

    “very proud of our rich traditions and sense of community that have been built upon by successive generations of students, staff and parents.”

St Clares on the other hand is rather chuffed to describe itself thus:

    “a Catholic school for girls located in the south Canberra suburb of Griffith. We are a Year 7 to 12 school where students are motivated and encouraged to develop to their full potential within the context of the Catholic Tradition.”

Whatever the schools claim to be doing; it isn’t working – well at least in the case of the two old dears on the No5.


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deezagood deezagood 10:37 pm 14 Mar 09

Kids model their parent’s behaviour; if the kids grow up seeing their own parents being kind to the elderly and/or people less fortunate (letting them go ahead in the supermarket, offering to help with their groceries, offering them a seat anywhere etc…) then they will automatically replicate that behaviour. Don’t blame the school; blame the parents.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 8:42 pm 14 Mar 09

35 odd St Edmunds students didn’t offer their seat to two elderly women.

35 out of 1200.

1200 St Edmunds students were on the bus? No. The issue is that out of 35 St Edmunds students, NONE offered up their seat.

gun street girl gun street girl 8:24 pm 14 Mar 09

Children and students travel at a discounted fare, which I guess is an argument for them giving up their seats. Regardless, I agree that the rule of “consideration for others” applies to everyone.

fabforty fabforty 7:26 pm 14 Mar 09

bd84 said :

Well any person should offer their seat to an elderly passenger, not just a child/teenager. As for children giving up their seat for an adult I fail to see the point, they are both as capable of being able to satisfactorily stand in a moving vehicle. First on the bus gets the seat. Changing seating positions on a bus that is packed to capacity is almost impossible anyway.

I agree. Why should children have to give up their seats for adults ? however I think everyone, regardless of age, should give up their seats for the elderly, pregnant etc

I get still angry when I am trapped at the back of the bus and I see grown men and women seated at the front of the bus letting older people stand. Luckily it doesn’t happen often. I have to say I am often more impressed by my fellow Canberrans friendliness and good manners on the bus than I am disappointed.

I can’t say the same for the ACTION Inspector/Assessor who sat in the front seat the other morning and watched with disinterest as a very elderly lady tried to fold up her walking frame, juggle her bag and try to get on the bus. A young mum carrying a toddler gand I got off and helped her.

Granny Granny 3:17 pm 14 Mar 09

Sorry S4anta, but the obvious solution is remote controlled hand buzzers embedded in every seat ….

*heh heh heh*

S4anta S4anta 11:58 am 14 Mar 09

burninator said :

slow news day, eh.

i’d sooner whinge that there aren’t enough seats on buses.

The solution to this problem is to chain all kids heading to and from school behind the bus and make them run. That way there will be plenty of seats and our kiddies wont be obese as they are sprinting 10k’s or more twice a day and getting cancer as the carbon monoxide is being emitted from the muffler.

Pommy bastard Pommy bastard 10:59 am 14 Mar 09

Good manners cost nothing, as the old saying goes.

Fiona Fiona 9:53 am 14 Mar 09

hmmm I thought it was a condition of student tickets that you gave up your seats. but maybe that was the NSW free pass system? I rarely had seats on the train home… remember hanging out near the open doors of the trains when we got the old single-level ones. ahh only a couple of kids fell out … and that was more likely in Maitland…

burninator burninator 8:22 am 14 Mar 09

slow news day, eh.

i’d sooner whinge that there aren’t enough seats on buses.

Granny Granny 12:12 am 14 Mar 09

I never get offended when somebody offers me a seat. And I would always offer my seat to somebody who needed it more.

bd84 bd84 11:53 pm 13 Mar 09

Well any person should offer their seat to an elderly passenger, not just a child/teenager. As for children giving up their seat for an adult I fail to see the point, they are both as capable of being able to satisfactorily stand in a moving vehicle. First on the bus gets the seat. Changing seating positions on a bus that is packed to capacity is almost impossible anyway.

ant ant 11:21 pm 13 Mar 09

Bettie said :

I think it has more to do with the snooty upbringing and sense of entitlement instilled on them by their parents.

It’s only reinforced by their teachers.

er, not too much snooty at Sneddies and st tarts! Oh dear.

Entitlement seems to be a disease many people are suffering from these days, I reckon it’s afflicted all those people with babies and toddlers, for instance. In fact anyone who identifies themselves as A Family.

2604 2604 10:36 pm 13 Mar 09

justbands said :

Yes, that’s Rugby though (as opposed to rugby LEAGUE). Rugby is generally considered more of an educated gentlemans game.

This from a guy who doesn’t even know how to use an apostrophe.

For the benefit of any other “educated gentlemen” out there who happen to be Union fans, it’s “gentleman’s”.

shiny flu shiny flu 10:04 pm 13 Mar 09

Whilst it’s all well to offer a seat, on the flip side persons with a mouth are able to ask.

Nothing worse than a patronising person coughing up a lung in front of you when they could simply and politely ask “Excuse me, but do you mind if I could sit down?”

I was brought up to give up my seat to those in need of one, especially if one should choose to sit in the yellow seats.

I was always told at grammar that whilst I was in uniform I represented the school and hence should behave as if I were at school. This sank in at around year 9-10… teens will be teens.

PS: Regardless of my socks around my ankles or loosening my tie- I still gave up my seat.

buildAnation buildAnation 9:59 pm 13 Mar 09

I’m a student at St. Edmunds, and I will have to agree, there are some inconsiderate little boys that attend.

In life, there are as many decent people as there are inconsiderate.

Last Wednesday, our principal addressed the college at assembly with an E-mail he had received from a woman who boarded the bus in Campbell I believe.

There were three St Edmunds students waiting for the same bus. When it arrived, one of them said to his other two mates “Let the lady on first guys”.

35 odd St Edmunds students didn’t offer their seat to two elderly women.

35 out of 1200.

Such a small minority of students could hardly have anything to do with the teaching/ character building methods of the school.

Danman Danman 9:30 pm 13 Mar 09

Good call AJ – a fellow pink fan – I doon’t know, I’was really droonk at the time

When I was in school – all those years ago – older people commanded respect and I felt bad if i DIDN’T get up for them to have my seat.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 8:44 pm 13 Mar 09

Agreed, and that is certainly part of the problem.

Bettie Bettie 8:34 pm 13 Mar 09

I think it has more to do with the snooty upbringing and sense of entitlement instilled on them by their parents.

It’s only reinforced by their teachers.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 8:26 pm 13 Mar 09

I wouldn’t send kids to either of those schools, based on their respective reputations.

astrojax astrojax 7:37 pm 13 Mar 09

‘ow can ya have any puddin’ if ye don’t eat ya meat?

…and of course, we used to live in’t shoebox, in middle’t road.

i’m with gobbo; call ’em up on this sort of rude ignorant behaviour and make them squirm in public. well, let’s hope they skwirm; rekkun a good lot of them don’t understand why it’s rude. sad, really. i often have a go at people what drop litter near me, especially in a crowd. a dollar for every red cheek, eh? but two for every glower or look of diffidence and it’d even out… people not using indicators, too…

you, stand still laddie!

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