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Advice for Ramadan

By Thumper - 2 October 2007 24

ESA previously told us to wear beanies in winter because it is cold.

Now they have this incisive piece of advice for Muslims in Ramadan.

Surely Muslims who strictly adhere to Ramadan are well aware of everything. This ‘advice’ seems rather paternalistic to me.

I await the ‘advice’ given for Good Friday when Christians eat fish and may choke on a fish bone.

In other news, 2007 StormSafe campaign coming soon. This should be common sense but well worth a read. No link as yet.

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24 Responses to
Advice for Ramadan
Mr Evil 9:53 am 03 Oct 07

Are you still allowed to detonate roadside IEDs in daylight hours during Ramadan?

Ralph 9:25 am 03 Oct 07

Agree. Another reason for tougher restrictions on immigration. Skilled migrants only. There is no credible argument for letting unskilled migrants to enter the country – except for making the cultural elites feel good.

With Labor’s yellowbelly soft immigration policies we can look forward to Australia resembling Eurabia in about 10 years from now.

VYBerlinaV8 now_with 9:24 am 03 Oct 07

Isn’t Belconnen an enclave operating under bogan law?

barking toad 8:08 am 03 Oct 07

Just a small example of the wedge of appeasement to allow muslims to be afforded special treatment. The more it’s allowed to happen the more shrill their demands will become.

It’s already happened in Britain and the rest of Europe with enclaves effectively operating under sharia law.

plane 7:13 am 03 Oct 07

Cmon Thumper,
the StormSafe link isn’t that hard to find: StormSafe

Now, I just need to convince those of my unit, m\that getting your picture published \, means you owe a slab…

shauno 9:38 pm 02 Oct 07

Ive got a work colleague sitting next to me thats Muslim and he’s fasting. Were all having bets to see how long he lasts haha. But he says even if he fails he can just pick up were he left off. Got another Muslim colleague here that isn’t doing it, its like any religion i guess you have some that take it more seriously then others.

VicePope 9:31 pm 02 Oct 07

I’ll be serious (again). Across the considerable number of Muslims in the world, Australia and Canberra, I expect there are some continua and discrepancies in belief and practice. (Much like the olden days when people with an Irish Catholic priest tended to get a different approach than those with, say, a long-term Oz or an Italian).

Islam apparently has a good deal of flexibility about Ramadan, but not everyone knows about it. If someone doesn’t know, and has some good reason to be exempted (like they might have a diabetic coma or something), they need to be told, rather than (a) dying pointlessly or (b) feeling needlessly guilty and bad. The Catholics do thi with Lent, and they used to do it with the “nothing after midnight until communion” fast back in the 1940s. My problem with Ramadan is that it’s a great deal easier for some (aircon, nice climate, light work) than for others (outdoors, strenuous stuff).

I think the ESA has done a good and wise thing.

barney 9:05 pm 02 Oct 07

I don’t know. But advice from the ESA to Ramadan participants makes me laugh.


Pandy 6:20 pm 02 Oct 07

I am not a rascist but….

(now that I have suckered you in)

…. can Muslims have sex during the daylight hours during Ramadam?

DawnDrifter 4:59 pm 02 Oct 07

i should have elaborated on “but if you do, you can make it up later like they said.”

ie if you are pregnant during Ramadan, you can fast your days later after the birth and your health returns to normal levels
if you are young, only start fasting after puberty (7 years old is waaay too young)
if you are elderly, you will need to fast only until you can no longer do it for health reasons
if you are sick or need medicine thru Ramadan, the days you break your fast you will make it up later.
if you are permanently on meds, not much you can do about that

DawnDrifter 4:55 pm 02 Oct 07

They seem to have gone to some effort to collate this info.. If you are sick, young(before puberty) elderly, pregnant etc.. there is no blame on you if you break your fast for these reasons. but if you do, you can make it up later like they said.
the only bit of info that could be taken one way or the other is the rulings on what will and what will not break your fast. best to speak to your local sheik or imam for that kind of info as it does differentiate slightly with interpretation
not that VR cares lol

hingo_VRCalaisV6 3:16 pm 02 Oct 07

In the words of of the great John Safran – “Ramadan – Who gives a damn”

Mr Evil 3:13 pm 02 Oct 07

I think that if you are stupid enough to stop taking medication because of a religious belief, well you really do deserve to meet your maker then!

Mr Waffle 2:41 pm 02 Oct 07

“Surely Muslims who strictly adhere to Ramadan are well aware of everything.”

And we all know how people are always aware of risks they’re taking, which is why they don’t have warning labels on toxic chemicals, don’t-swim-there-are-crocodile signs, don’t smoke on airplane stickers…

Oh wait.

GnT 2:40 pm 02 Oct 07

“Surely Muslims who strictly adhere to Ramadan are well aware of everything”

You’d be surprised. Even the article says “a large number of Muslims are still unaware of the latest religious guidelines”.

As a high school teacher, we always have a number of students fasting for Ramadan. I remember one year 7 boy who was fasting for the first time. He didn’t tell anyone and continued to participate fully in PE and lunch time activities. We had to let his parents know so they could tell him you can’t do sport if you’re not drinking water – he thought he was doing the right thing by suffering dehydration.

The advice seems like common sense but I’m sure it was prompted by some medical situations.

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