3 July 2008

Ainslie neglect mother 'performs' in Magistrates Court.

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The Australian have the story here of the behaviour of Ainslie’s best mum in Court yesterday.

She really ain’t doing herself any favours!

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I’ll jump in on the debate – something I was not bothered with previously.

As a user of steriotypes on a regular basis, it is a VERY wide brush that is being used. Since the only experience you have ever had with NZ is limited to watching Once Were Warriors either once or twice, and observing a couple of floggings of the Wallabies by the boys in black, the use of the steriotype ‘she’s from NZ (because her mother currently resides there)’ is rather flawed.

While I’m accustomed to using a big brush, its not THAT big.

For the record, as a bona-fide citizen of New Zealand (among others), I am appalled at the condition that the house was in for what its worth. I do not consider the condition of the house to be in any way related to any country.

On the topic of the mother for that matter, I have nothing but scorn. Hence why I have not posted previously. Motherhood begets certain responsibilities, all of which have been neglected. I would entertain the notion that if there were a limitation that Centrelink payments would be cut off if certain persons got pregnant while on PPS, this entire situation would not have ever come about.

Jazz said :

VG, From my recollection each tenancy officer has a portfolio of around 250-300 properties to manage although those numbers may have changed more recently. How do you think they are going to manage driveby’s as well as all the other stuff that goes on.

Missjill, when i was there they started to take video as evidence of the condition of some properties. Believe me when i say that the condition that some tenants let their living standards fall to is nothing short of disgusting

maybe, Jazz, the ACT government could employ long term unemployed people to supplement the numbers of act housing tenancy officers or work for the dole or concerned citizens, just like neighborhood watch used to do, but with more of a keep the property decent focus. Not that most neighbors don’t complain about the bad house in the street to each other over the fence, at the takeaway etc.

VG, From my recollection each tenancy officer has a portfolio of around 250-300 properties to manage although those numbers may have changed more recently. How do you think they are going to manage driveby’s as well as all the other stuff that goes on.

Missjill, when i was there they started to take video as evidence of the condition of some properties. Believe me when i say that the condition that some tenants let their living standards fall to is nothing short of disgusting

I feel sorry for the dog.

Felix the Cat9:14 pm 04 Jul 08

peterh said :

Whatsup said :

…and the current one, who seems to be doing the place up, even though she doesn’t own it.

Apparently you can get evicted for doing that, just ask the Farrells.

Thanks Jazz, looks like Housing ACT need to be a little more diligent with their inspections. Maybe spot inspections is the way to go, but then the snivel libertarians would be up in arms, invasion of privacy, that kind of thing. Can someone make such a mountain of mess in 6 months? I guess it’s possible.

With the NZ thing. The woman and her mum could be any nationality, but the mother just happens to live in NZ these days? I don’t know.

Whatsup said :

peterh: There are plenty of people from different nations that are bad tenants and live in this kind of squalor, even Aussies. You’ve created a interesting profile of this family which could be true, but don’t restrict it to kiwis.

whatsup: Apologies, you would think after living next to an act govt house I would know better, the tenants over the years have been many and varied from all nationalities.

The only ones who took any kind of care of the place were the former tenants (an aboriginal family) and the current one, who seems to be doing the place up, even though she doesn’t own it.

peterh: There are plenty of people from different nations that are bad tenants and live in this kind of squalor, even Aussies. You’ve created a interesting profile of this family which could be true, but don’t restrict it to kiwis.

Internal inspections twice a year maybe, nothing stopping them driving past for a visual inspection of the exterior. From what I’ve seen it may have tripped maybe a couple of alarm bells. You would think she would in no way be a candidate for bail bearing in mind her behaviour outside of the kids issues as well, but then again should we be shocked when we read who bailed her?

“Chief Justice Terence Higgins granted the woman bail with strict conditions including not to contact her children or go near their school.”

Nothing like Terry to over-rule the Mags Court baselessly once again….but it looks like it was after lunch on a Friday so I guess anything goes at that time

Fallen through the cracks? Inside one of the cracks is more likely!

Missjill the two inspections a year is the maximum number of inspections that HOusing ACT may conduct under the residential tenancies act. depending on staffing this one may have fallen through the cracks.

Security of tenure also means that its not easy to kick someone out. if the property is found in poor condition they’ve got to send remedy letters before any action can be taken.

Whatsup said :

peterh… oh of course. If she is a kiwi than she has to be trouble.

Thats a wide brush you are painting with there !

I have relatives who are kiwis – they were appalled with the state of the house, but had seen the same sort of squalor in NZ in rentals that they had owned (not maoris but white folk were the tenants) as they said to me earlier today, perhaps she had run out of options in NZ, came to australia for a new start and just couldn’t break free of the original rut she was in. just because she changed country doesn’t mean that she would have changed her personal discipline, hygiene, circle of “friends”.

peterh… oh of course. If she is a kiwi than she has to be trouble.

Thats a wide brush you are painting with there !

missjill said :

*has been

and now we find out that she is a kiwi? maybe that is why there weren’t any complaints at the inspections, even though I have heard of houses having bolt holes cut into the floorboards in case of surprise visits from the boys and girls in blue. The inspectors walked right past the strategically placed big fluffy toy….

*has been

This afternoon, this woman was been granted bail in the ACT Supreme Court.

She was ordered to stay away from her children and not go within 100 metres of their school. She was also told not to consume illicit drugs, and that she could be subjected to urine analysis. Her mother is flying in from New Zealand (apparently to make sure she abides by the rules).

Ant a spunkrat? Funniest thing I’ve heard all day. 😉

…it is quite possible that she is simply a nasty, useless piece of work who simply doesn’t give a rats about anyone but herself. Of course, i’m not saying this is the case.

She’s just another of the breed where nothing is ever their fault and the rest of Society has to do everthing for her..and when they dont she’s a victim. Her kids need help but not her…

I don’t know the details of the situation but from what the media has reported this woman is needing help on many levels. Its easy to condem this woman when you don’t have all the background information. Call me an optomist but I will reckon she can get herself sorted out if given the right assistance.

Timberwolf6510:14 am 04 Jul 08

It’s interesting how quickly people jump on the mentally unsable bandwagon when it is quite possible that she is simply a nasty, useless piece of work who simply doesn’t give a rats about anyone but herself.

Of course, i’m not saying that this is the case.

I agree.
Also wondering how she manages with the housing inspections, because the place was a bloody sess-pit, crap everywhere…I just couldn’t live like that, or have my kids grow up like that.

Poor kids, I just hope they are not to messed up by everything they have been through.

Timberwolf659:56 am 04 Jul 08

This women is obviously way past caring to act like this in court.

So from what i can gather she has it in for this family friend that is looking after her two older kids and the night the police showed up her three younger one’s were home alone, bloody hell, this women has five kids….(gee i can add)!!

She doesn’t deserve to be a mother, she’s probably pissed off with the family friend because she’s missing out on centrelink payments for the two older kids, depending on how old they are of course.
I always wonder what must of happened to this lady to for her to end up like this.

I love flannies and ugg-boots.

Vic Bitterman said :

ant said :

But I still wear my favourite trackys, they still work, the holes don’t affect their performance.

But Ant, you are a spunkrat and don’t resemble your average houso single mum.

I’m not anything of the sort! But thank you for the sentiment.

Name’s suppressed by the courts so the kids cannot be identified. No address either, I’ve noticed. Although with the pictures they’ve been using on the ABC and the CT, it wouldn’t be all that hard to find…
Poor woman but mad as a cut snake I reckon. Should have been on medication/drug detox earlier, otherwise this whole mess wouldn’t have happened.

missjill said :

lol, thanks guys. Roadrage is right. I did make this about myself, but it was only because I’m a single mum. Here I go again.

Now then, let’s talk about this womans outburst in court?

Anyone attend? Roadrage? One of your ex’s perhaps? 😉

Hugh.

Seems my theory about there being more female posters on this site than might be assumed is wrong… maybe.

It strikes me as a classic masculine/feminine approach to posting/talking etc… the masculine critiques/comments, the feminine relates/comments… well, in principle anyway, “all” genders express each of these principles in some manner…

But damn if it ain’t apparently obvious when a real woman gets online – watch the boys jump and call her egotistical! Irony anyone?

5 words – Load, Action, Instant…Watch and Shoot

(and is not a word its a conjunction you punks)

Sometimes humanity can be so tiresome…

Vic Bitterman10:37 pm 03 Jul 08

ant said :

But I still wear my favourite trackys, they still work, the holes don’t affect their performance.

But Ant, you are a spunkrat and don’t resemble your average houso single mum.

MissJill you should be able to find trakkydaks for more like $8. Try Allens. 🙂

Missjill… what about the 440 Woodies? How will I recognise your place if I find your street? Is it the one with rusted Fords half on the street, or the caravan out the front or the one playing 2CA loud enough to hear it from three streets away or the burnout marks? Taken off your thongs – ah, you mean Aussie cross trainers. Um, if not, how many are you wearing?

Back to the topic – she may not have mental health issues. She could just be anti-establishment and ready to start adding comments to RA! She may also only be able to recognise her kids by their fathers surnames.

Miss Jill said

missjill said :

I’m a single mother who keeps a clean house, and I don’t smoke, I don’t drink alcohol, I don’t do drugs, I don’t gamble, I work part-time, I study part-time, and I have a 20 year Public Service career behind me, BUT, if I go down to the local shop with my jeans and “flanny” on late one Sunday afternoon, along with my toddler in a stroller, I get THOSE looks from people who are too quick to throw all single mums into the same bin.

Huh. I wore my favourite tracky dacks to shops and things on weekends for years, they’re actually holes with some tracky dack fabric. Marvellous dacks. And then some dreadful old harridan at Manuka (getting out of a range rover) and her friend observed that my trousers had holes. I riposted that all the best trousers have holes, but i was cut to the quick, and the next week visited Lowes in Queanbeyan and got some new trackys ($17 but they turned out to be 12 bucks at the register).

But I still wear my favourite trackys, they still work, the holes don’t affect their performance.

Anyway, the people giving “those looks” are probably looking at the kid and thinking about the baby bonus, rather than the flannelette shirt. Nothing wrong with flannelette shirts, very practical.

When & where did ‘moll’ change to ‘mole’ – anyone know?

Seriously, and this has probably been answered a hundred times, but has Housing ACT given an explanation about the condition of this Ainslie house? Aren’t housing inspections done twice a year?

Also, has the woman’s name been suppressed by the courts, or is it that the media are not allowed to mention her name because there’s kids involved? I suspect it’s the latter but not sure.

This one’s for rr77. Okay, I’ve rolled up the flanny sleeves, organised my pot, bought the Winnie Blues, checked the cask of wine ain’t empty, taken off me thongs, scraped the peanut butter sangers off the carpet, thrown the kid into bed (not the stained mattress on the floor – that one’s mine), and I’m ready for a night in. Care to join me? 😉 Anyone? :O

Felix the Cat8:11 pm 03 Jul 08

This women isn’t a relative of Amber is she?!

Vic Bitterman6:53 pm 03 Jul 08

Clown Killer said :

As far as single mums go – as a parent I stand in awe of any parent who can get the job done on their own.

Totally agreed, well said.

Roadrage77 said :

Haha I’m only ribbin ya missjill! It’s what people with low self-esteem do.

Truth is I can sympathise with single-mum families. Every one of my failed relationships has resulted in one….

Hey Roadrage – time to get out of the gene pool

Clown Killer5:18 pm 03 Jul 08

I suspect that this womans troubles are either related to mental illness, substance dependency or a combination of both. Better informed minds than mine will no doubt be called upon to help sort this mess out and hopefully the kids are going to get the chance to lead a better life.

As far as single mums go – as a parent I stand in awe of any parent who can get the job done on their own.

I know a few single mums myself – regardless of what they wear, I have nothing but pride for them and their tough tasks – and have plenty of time for them to help with stuff.

Not all bogans are single mums, as not all single mums are bogans…

Only lumberjacks, tradies and farmers should be allowed to wear flano’s

Deadmandrinking5:08 pm 03 Jul 08

The force is strong in this one…

lol, thanks guys. Roadrage is right. I did make this about myself, but it was only because I’m a single mum. Here I go again.

Now then, let’s talk about this womans outburst in court?

Anyone attend? Roadrage? One of your ex’s perhaps? 😉

RR77 – time to tie a knot in it then. 🙂

Haha I’m only ribbin ya missjill! It’s what people with low self-esteem do.

Truth is I can sympathise with single-mum families. Every one of my failed relationships has resulted in one….

Deadmandrinking4:26 pm 03 Jul 08

Welcome to Riot-act missjill.

Nice shirt.

roadrage77, every thread you say? I don’t think so.

If I have something in common with the thread at hand, I’ll share my own experiences and thoughts in that thread as I have done here.

Apart from this, I only commented on the 2CA threads, and the thread I started about unhelpful Canberra people.

It’s a shame that every thread you comment on has to be NASTY NASTY NASTYYYYYYYYY.

OK so my posts aren’t gonna win me a pulitzer, but at least I don’t railroad every thread into a discussion about ME ME MEEEEEEEEE.

Deadmandrinking4:17 pm 03 Jul 08

‘I think the whacky-tobacky has given you anger problems; none of your posts are even-keeled, just nasty.’

You’re off the hook. You’ve obviously never smoked it.

roadrage77, can you read? I said I don’t wear flannies nor do I do drugs etc, nor did I say that every single mum is being stereotyped as trash (in big capital letters). Thanks for colouring your post with ugh boots, I forgot to do so in my posts above.

Single mums often do get a bad wrap; it’s a fact and those who say otherwise haven’t lived it.

I think the whacky-tobacky has given you anger problems; none of your posts are even-keeled, just nasty.

missjill said :

It’s people like this who give single mothers a bad name.

I’m a single mother who keeps a clean house, and I don’t smoke, I don’t drink alcohol, I don’t do drugs, I don’t gamble, I work part-time, I study part-time, and I have a 20 year Public Service career behind me, BUT, if I go down to the local shop with my jeans and “flanny” on late one Sunday afternoon, along with my toddler in a stroller, I get THOSE looks from people who are too quick to throw all single mums into the same bin.

Power to all single mums out there; hold your head up high.

If you think that everyone is sterotyping every single mother in Canberra as TRASH just because one stupid mole in Ainslie can’t get her $**t together then you are kidding yourself. If you were really that worried about it, you’d ditch the flanny + ugh boot combo when you leave the house.

My advic would be to lay off the bongs – they’re making you paranoid.

Deadmandrinking3:48 pm 03 Jul 08

You know her then, Swaggie?

Her behavior is characteristic of someone with a mental illness. I hope she gets help for whatever it is she has.

This is why we have been told all along: “Do not piss in the gene pool!” See what happens in the long run?

S4anta, our children would be the leaders of these drones. Somebody has to control the hive mind.

Why does she need help Whatsup? Is she incapable of keeping her home clean like 99.9% of the population do without any help? She’s just another of the breed where nothing is ever their fault and the rest of Society has to do everthing for her..and when they dont she’s a victim. Her kids need help but not her, she just needs to accept responsibility.

Its stories like these that make me realise that Maelinar and I shouldn’t breed.

😀 Actually, I don’t wear flannies – not that there’s anything wrong with that. I’m talking about casual gear in general. Mr Evil, squeezing into that 2CA t-shirt was a one-off, believe me.

missjill said :

It’s people like this who give single mothers a bad name.

(…)
BUT, if I go down to the local shop with my jeans and “flanny” on late one Sunday afternoon, along with my toddler in a stroller, I get THOSE looks from people who are too quick to throw all single mums into the same bin.

I suspect it is less about the single mum part, and more about the flannie.

missjill said :

…..I get THOSE looks from people who are too quick to throw all single mums into the same bin.

Maybe it’s because you wear your t-shirts far too small in public???? 🙂

It’s people like this who give single mothers a bad name.

I’m a single mother who keeps a clean house, and I don’t smoke, I don’t drink alcohol, I don’t do drugs, I don’t gamble, I work part-time, I study part-time, and I have a 20 year Public Service career behind me, BUT, if I go down to the local shop with my jeans and “flanny” on late one Sunday afternoon, along with my toddler in a stroller, I get THOSE looks from people who are too quick to throw all single mums into the same bin.

Power to all single mums out there; hold your head up high.

This woman needs some serious help, I hope she gets it.

Well at least she knows how to conduct herself in court.

Probably wore her best flanny and pencil cut black jeans for the occasion too.

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