13 December 2011

Alleged cat throwing teenager to face the Childrens Court

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A 16-year-old boy was arrested early this morning (Tuesday, December 13) for animal cruelty after police were called to a Scullin apartment complex in relation to a disturbance.

About 12.30am police attended the location and spoke with a number of people in the carpark of the complex regarding complaints about excessive noise. A short time later, police were called back to the location and observed the youth carrying a cat that had its paws bound together.

Police removed the cable ties from the cat and when placed on the ground the cat did not appear to have the use of its hind legs. The members transported the cat to the Animal Emergency Centre where a vet stated the cat was suffering from pelvis fractures and nerve damage.

The young person was arrested and taken to the ACT Watch House where he was later bailed. He will be summonsed to attend the ACT Childrens Court at a later date, when he will be charged with aggravated cruelty to an animal causing serious injury.

Police will allege the youth threw the cat from a second story balcony before tying its front paws together using plastic cable ties. Anyone with information about this incident, or anyone who can assist the police investigation, is urged to call Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or report via the website at www.act.crimestoppers.com.au.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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creative_canberran said :

+1 PBO

Try him as an adult, bound his limbs and make him crawl through Garema Place at lunch hour with a sign saying “I torture defenceless animals.”

Can this please happen.

HenryBG said :

You left out the bit where you let them out the back door to go and devastate the local wildlife for a while.

+1000

I don’t blame the cat for what comes naturally. However, owners who let their cats out to prowl the neighbourhood are scum of the earth types. Especially when it results in other people’s pets being eaten, from their own backyard.

You’re far more damaging to the environment and local wildlife than a cat is.

By your logic, why do we even care about this balcony incident? There are far worse things going on in the world.

HenryBG said :

Cats spend every waking moment trying to catch other animals so they can torture them to death by breaking their limbs one by one and watching their victim painfully crawl across the ground on the bleeding stumps of their shattered limbs.

Utter bull****. Simple as that.

I’ve watched them do it.
They catch a mouse, then give one of its legs a good crunch and let it go. The poor mouse tries to make a dash for freedom and the cat has another pounce, gives another of its legs a quick chew, and so on.
Cats are ugly, evil creatures.

Cats are intrigued by movement. It’s instinctual, not evil.
You’re being anthropomorphic.

Holditz said :

I just watched on a Southern Cross news brief, the toerag pleaded not guilty.

Won’t do him any good.

I just watched on a Southern Cross news brief, the toerag pleaded not guilty.

apparently its alright if its school “muck up day” but not here?

I guess this guys just another” bogan” hey?

No ! Thats never ok no matter what day it is or who carried it out.

HenryBG said :

jamiescot said :

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Nature isn’t pretty, sometimes they do not finish the job, leaving an animal to suffer and die a slow death or endure a longer tormented life from a near death injury. However they do this from a primal instict to hunt and feed themselves and their young. ….
What that idiot did was a lowly, cowardly act, committed by a person who felt they could be some sort of hero by picking on an innocent animal, which in my mind casts doubt on their morals, maturity and masculinity …..

So you argue that the long and terrible ordeal that a cat puts its victims through is something to do with “primal instinct” and is therefore…what? OK?

What makes you assume that a stupid teenage bogan doesn’t have any of these “primal instincts”?

Correct. Nature is cruel. Animals kill each other to survive and pass on genes to ensure the continuation of their species. It may not be pretty, but it got us where we are today. The attributes that separate us from the rest of the animal kingdom are morals, reasoning, compassion, amongst others. A “teenage bogan”, or yourself, throwing a cat of balcony for the hell of it, is not demonstrating any of those attributes, and unless either of you plan to eat the cat are not showing any behaviour linked to other animals. You and this “teenage bogan” won’t be hard to spot though, as the trail of blood from dragging your knuckles on the ground should give the game away.

jamiescot said :

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Nature isn’t pretty, sometimes they do not finish the job, leaving an animal to suffer and die a slow death or endure a longer tormented life from a near death injury. However they do this from a primal instict to hunt and feed themselves and their young. ….
What that idiot did was a lowly, cowardly act, committed by a person who felt they could be some sort of hero by picking on an innocent animal, which in my mind casts doubt on their morals, maturity and masculinity …..

So you argue that the long and terrible ordeal that a cat puts its victims through is something to do with “primal instinct” and is therefore…what? OK?

What makes you assume that a stupid teenage bogan doesn’t have any of these “primal instincts”?

Classified said :

I think we’re forgetting what cats really are: an occasional tasty treat for the whole family.

Small mammals are quite flavoursome when baked — Dr Who

HenryBG said :

HenryBG said :

Um, you said that cats spend every waking moment trying to catch other animals so they can torture them to death My cats sleep about 20 hours a day. So do most cats.

So that’s 4 hours of hunting per day.

Did you intend your non-sequitur to have any purpose, at all?

In between that they lie around in the lounge room, chase each other, and eat food.

You’re the one advocating throwing cats off buildings. Not me.

You come across as a wonderfully compassionate and well adjusted individual.

You left out the bit where you let them out the back door to go and devastate the local wildlife for a while.

You’re far more damaging to the environment and local wildlife than a cat is.
Can we throw you off a balcony?
C’Mon, it will be fun, you know you want to let us.

HenryBG said :

Um, you said that cats spend every waking moment trying to catch other animals so they can torture them to death My cats sleep about 20 hours a day. So do most cats.

So that’s 4 hours of hunting per day.

Did you intend your non-sequitur to have any purpose, at all?

In between that they lie around in the lounge room, chase each other, and eat food.

You’re the one advocating throwing cats off buildings. Not me.

You come across as a wonderfully compassionate and well adjusted individual.

You left out the bit where you let them out the back door to go and devastate the local wildlife for a while.

I think we’re forgetting what cats really are: an occasional tasty treat for the whole family.

Um, you said that cats spend every waking moment trying to catch other animals so they can torture them to death My cats sleep about 20 hours a day. So do most cats.

So that’s 4 hours of hunting per day.

Did you intend your non-sequitur to have any purpose, at all?

HenryBG said :

Cats spend every waking moment trying to catch other animals so they can torture them to death by breaking their limbs one by one and watching their victim painfully crawl across the ground on the bleeding stumps of their shattered limbs.

Utter bull****. Simple as that.

I’ve watched them do it.
They catch a mouse, then give one of its legs a good crunch and let it go. The poor mouse tries to make a dash for freedom and the cat has another pounce, gives another of its legs a quick chew, and so on.
Cats are ugly, evil creatures.

Cats are carnivores. Predators. This type of “torturing” behaviour is sometimes seen among such species. Orcas tossing seals about is another example that springs to mind. How about you toss an orca off a balcony? They’re just animals doing what animals do. It’s just nature – Good or evil doesn’t come into it. Humans, on the other hand, are expected to know better.

But what really pisses me off is that people can’t seem to understand when to use “your” and when to use “you’re”. It’s infuriating!

HenryBG said :

Cats spend every waking moment trying to catch other animals so they can torture them to death by breaking their limbs one by one and watching their victim painfully crawl across the ground on the bleeding stumps of their shattered limbs.

Utter bull****. Simple as that.

I’ve watched them do it.
They catch a mouse, then give one of its legs a good crunch and let it go. The poor mouse tries to make a dash for freedom and the cat has another pounce, gives another of its legs a quick chew, and so on.
Cats are ugly, evil creatures.

Um, you said that cats spend every waking moment trying to catch other animals so they can torture them to death My cats sleep about 20 hours a day. So do most cats.

So, utter bull**** as I said.

Just aside form that, you condone throwing cats off buildings do you?

I have read RA for about a year now, and only logged on to post on this comment;

Cat’s are animals, of course they have an instinct to kill other, smaller animals. Birds such as magpies and crows kill worms and insects. They will kill snails by smashing them against a rock to berak open a shell. Eagles kill mice, rabbits, lizards. Foxes and dogs kill lambs and chickens. Wolves kill deer, Lions kill antelope, zebra and the like. and yes, cat’s kill mice, lizards and birds Nature isn’t pretty, sometimes they do not finish the job, leaving an animal to suffer and die a slow death or endure a longer tormented life from a near death injury. However they do this from a primal instict to hunt and feed themselves and their young. These animals do not kill for fun, merely to satisfy an instinct, mainly hunger and self survival. What that idiot did was a lowly, cowardly act, committed by a person who felt they could be some sort of hero by picking on an innocent animal, which in my mind casts doubt on their morals, maturity and masculinity and Henry BG, you are a similar character. P.S. I am not a fan of cats, but respect that they are an animal with feelings and intelligence.

Bogans spend every waking moment causing trouble with other people. They should be bound up and chucked off a balcony.

Cats spend every waking moment trying to catch other animals so they can torture them to death by breaking their limbs one by one and watching their victim painfully crawl across the ground on the bleeding stumps of their shattered limbs.

Utter bull****. Simple as that.

I’ve watched them do it.
They catch a mouse, then give one of its legs a good crunch and let it go. The poor mouse tries to make a dash for freedom and the cat has another pounce, gives another of its legs a quick chew, and so on.
Cats are ugly, evil creatures.

HenryBG your a cruel animal too. (possibly bridge dwelling). It is a hole, a cat in a sack, a .22. No mess, no fuss, no-one need know. But that is “farm” rules. City folk have their own ways.

excessive emotionalising about animal welfare.

Why is it excessive to hope that animals don’t get treated cruelly?

It is over-the-top excessive to be fantasising about breaking somebody’s legs and sexually assaulting them in gaol.
Some of the posters here are clearly far more disturbed than the idiot who’s done nothing more than half-kill some dumb animal.

Cats spend every waking moment trying to catch other animals so they can torture them to death by breaking their limbs one by one and watching their victim painfully crawl across the ground on the bleeding stumps of their shattered limbs.
If I get a chance to throw a cat of a balcony, I will take it.

Do we have the persons name yet? Or their Parents names?

breda said :

That said, this little jerk needs a wakeup call. He might be surprised to find how many people in jail are actually very fond of animals, even if they don’t get along with humans that well.

One thing that has been made abundantly clear by many of the comments here, is that there seems to be a very clear connection between latent (or maybe actual?) psychopathy and obsessive and excessive emotionalising about animal welfare.

breda said :

And sorry, i-filed, there is no evidence at all that he was mean to the cat because his parents gave him a depraved upbringing. In keeping with your stereotype, they could just as easily have kept pit bulls that were treated like close family pets since he was born. Or, they could be like the nice, professional parents of the kids I saw torture and eventually torch a kitten when I was a teenager.

Care to brave that one on the court system, where lawyers rely so heavily on a deprived childhood in their attempts to get any beak to go light on some recidivist crim?
“Nice, professional parents” can be hideous behind closed doors. Lots of “nice, professional parents” are from deprived backgrounds.
(You “saw” kids torch a kitten when you were a teenager — without intervening? Shame on you!)

I would truley love to read (NOT being sarcastic) the research that has made you feel soooo strongly against animal cruelty or abuse of this nature having any links at all to real acts of cruelty against humans or serial killers actions etc. I would love the chance to hear a strong argument saying otherwise as it gives me far more hope for the human race….

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The research has been posted several times in RA, look it up. There are plenty of examples of people who adore their dogs and cheerfully massacre humans, and vice versa. The predictive powers are not very strong, one way or the other, on their own.

That said, this little jerk needs a wakeup call. He might be surprised to find how many people in jail are actually very fond of animals, even if they don’t get along with humans that well.

And sorry, i-filed, there is no evidence at all that he was mean to the cat because his parents gave him a depraved upbringing. In keeping with your stereotype, they could just as easily have kept pit bulls that were treated like close family pets since he was born. Or, they could be like the nice, professional parents of the kids I saw torture and eventually torch a kitten when I was a teenager.

The only thing they had in common (like the swan batterer and this latest guy) was that they were young males.

Perhaps 5 years with an estrogen patch as a sentence might help.

GardeningGirl12:28 am 15 Dec 11

Wily_Bear said :

Perhaps the boy responsible (or his parents) should be forced to make financial restitution

The person responsible needs to pay for what he chose to do, absolutely! If that means every cent beyond what is needed for rent and basic food goes towards paying, so be it. And unless the parents can demonstrate a history of genuinely attempting to raise the boy right and get him the help he needs, give them a hefty fine for negligence or something!

Wily_Bear said :

ThatUniStudent said :

Tetranitrate said :

With a fractured pelvis and nerve damage, I expect that the cat has probably been put down by now.

Perhaps the boy responsible (or his parents) should be forced to make financial restitution, so that Jasper can come home?

Forcing them would be the only way you’d get anything out of them. An apology? Maybe but you can’t force sincerity.

As typical with these groups of people who are generational welfare lifers for no good reason other than pure laziness. If you were to ask the little scumbag who did it why he did it, the answer would be ‘it wasn’t his fault and the cat had done something to provoke him’. A lot of the justification for their actions are that its always someone elses fault, somethings fault or a situation but never their own fault.

You can punish them, fine them, send them to jail/gaol or counsel them but you’ll seldom get genuine remorse.

Li’l Jasper cat can live without back legs. I’ve seen footage on youtube of a kitty with a cart rigged up for its paralysed back legs – zippin’ around happy as a lark. Definitely should be supported for the rest of its life. Could become quite a celebrity! Happy to contribute to a fund if anyone is mindful to start a (clearly legitimate) one.

It’s not just the bill. The cat needs ongoing medical care for the rest of his life.

Raise money sure, just donate it to a cat rescue group. The exact one who are footing the bill may be known eventually.

ThatUniStudent said :

Tetranitrate said :

With a fractured pelvis and nerve damage, I expect that the cat has probably been put down by now.

Sadly no, it’s alive, but may need to have both rear legs amputated so yeah, not a good life for a cat. ;(
The owner would have had been up for massive vet bills. So the cat was taken off of him. So very sad. Perhaps we should focus our energy on a fund daiser for the cat / owner?

One would have hoped the vet could have exercised some compassion in this instance. The poor cat has endured enough, without the further trauma of being forcibly separated from the love of his owner. It will make his rehabilitation all the slower and more painful. Perhaps the boy responsible (or his parents) should be forced to make financial restitution, so that Jasper can come home? Anyway,It would be good to have a fundraiser for the lil guy. Any ideas?

ThatUniStudent9:33 pm 14 Dec 11

Tetranitrate said :

With a fractured pelvis and nerve damage, I expect that the cat has probably been put down by now.

Sadly no, it’s alive, but may need to have both rear legs amputated so yeah, not a good life for a cat. ;(
The owner would have had been up for massive vet bills. So the cat was taken off of him. So very sad. Perhaps we should focus our energy on a fund daiser for the cat / owner?

ThatUniStudent9:21 pm 14 Dec 11

Oh wow. This is a very sad story to read.
I’m not a violent person, but I hope this kid gets hit back by Karma in a painful way. What a sick bastard. This sort of thing really is beyond words to describe.
Yeah, try him as an adult.

Tetranitrate6:19 pm 14 Dec 11

poetix said :

jenny123 said :

JazzyJess said :

Does anyone know if the cat is expected to recover? The injuries it sustained sounded very serious.

I would be happy to adopt/care for this poor little guy if they need a home for it

Reading the other thread about the people who live in the flats it seems the cat has an owner who loves it. I wonder if he can pay the vet bills, or if a vet is treating the cat for free?

With a fractured pelvis and nerve damage, I expect that the cat has probably been put down by now.

Gennalove said :

I live in the appartment block where this happened with six other residents not including those associated with this boy. As much as I sympathise with those people out there who want justice done to him, the real problem is the group of teenagers who reside in this specific flat.
We have been dealing with this rubbish for over seven months now and unfortunately ACT Housing tells us all that their hands are tied, that they cannot simply evict these kids, despite the fact that this is not the first time they have caused harm to our property or intimidated and threatened any of telling us to go to the police. The police tell us to go to Housing. When is enough, enough? Must one of us be physically assaulted in order for someone to pay little eccentric but as far as public housing complexes go, I could not wish for better or more curteous and caring neighbours. That they should have to live in fear is unacceptable and cruel. ACT Housing are treating these kids like they are the victims and we,
I’m sorry you have been going through this . I can only imagine how awful it must be and disheartening when you go to police and housing and you get the run around. As Thumper suggested hounding 666 on a Friday when Katy Gallagher takes calls. Hopefully with one going off to the slammer it might break down a bit of their group dynamics or at least slow the momentum down.

the perpetrators. We have done nothing more than exercise our right to a peaceful neighbourhood by involving police as regularly as possible. Though nothing is done. This is the real crime.
I know that the owner of that cat loved him and cared for him. He did not deserve this. And we do not deserve to live next to those people who are capable of such an unspeakable crime that only adds to the long, long list of what they have already done.
I am sick of feeling unsafe even in my own home. I am sick of waiting for police to arrive only to do nothing. I am sick of preventing my friends and family coming over of a weekend night for fear of their safety as they walk up the stairwell. I am sick of hiding in my flat. I am sick of turning the music up loud to drown out the sounds of their domestic violence.
We are sick of being unheard.
We are sick of being ignored.

Holden Caulfield said :

+1 to the public condemnation of this moron. 🙁

Well said.

+1

Ahhhh Matt there you go making it all sexual again. I only said “fantasy”. Its all in your dirty mind.

fgzk said :

Quite a fantasy about teenagers boys you got going there matt. So go of you to volunteer an answer.

matt31221 said :

I hope the cat recovers and is cared for by a cat loving owner. And this cruel kid eventually goes to adult jail. Also that there is a huge 7foot crim with a penchant for backdoor love in that same jail that decides that this cat hater is his type. And that they are housed in the same cell – “come here pussycat!! NOW I’VE GOT YOU PUSSYCAT!”

If you would read my post again – I said “the cruel kid EVENTUALLY goes to adult jail”, that implies he grows into an adult before going to ‘adult’ jail. It is definitely not a sexual fantasy but a justice served fantasy for the suffering he caused the cat and it’s owner.

Holden Caulfield2:38 pm 14 Dec 11

+1 to the public condemnation of this moron. 🙁

jenny123 said :

JazzyJess said :

Does anyone know if the cat is expected to recover? The injuries it sustained sounded very serious.

I would be happy to adopt/care for this poor little guy if they need a home for it

Reading the other thread about the people who live in the flats it seems the cat has an owner who loves it. I wonder if he can pay the vet bills, or if a vet is treating the cat for free?

JazzyJess said :

Does anyone know if the cat is expected to recover? The injuries it sustained sounded very serious.

I would be happy to adopt/care for this poor little guy if they need a home for it

I-filed said :

Hanksinatra said :

If only Canberra’s moral outrage could be extended to people…for example boat people.

See… there are many ways to skin a cat.

Oh shut up.

+ 1

Does anyone know if the cat is expected to recover? The injuries it sustained sounded very serious.

colourful sydney racing identity10:11 am 14 Dec 11

People hit wildlife all the time and leave it to die in agony by the side of the road. Is the strike deliberate? Most often not. But not stopping to check it is a deliberate decision.

I always stop. In fact, I often stop and shepherd lizards, tortoises, echidnas, snakes, off roads so that they won’t be run over. And pick up injured birds and take them to a vet.

How anyone cannot is a mystery to me.

Well, I pick up the lizards and tortoises, shepherd the snakes 🙂

Same. Except for snakes, I let them leave the road on their own volition.

Can anyone find the scullin flats on google maps and post the link?

“I would truley love to read (NOT being sarcastic) the research that has made you feel soooo strongly against animal cruelty or abuse of this nature having any links at all to real acts of cruelty against humans or serial killers actions etc. I would love the chance to hear a strong argument saying otherwise as it gives me far more hope for the human race….”

Being RA we rely on the stories and posts printed. Whilst I cant find it with search, a few years back there was a post where the family commented on what it was like to live with someone who was sociopathic. Maybe someone could hunt it down. I believe amongst other things he set fire to the family dog. A very sad story for the family.

Hanksinatra said :

If only Canberra’s moral outrage could be extended to people…for example boat people.

See… there are many ways to skin a cat.

pretty stupid sounding comment there don’t you think? not only is it off topic (what’s the point of drawing such a parallel? and besides that, how do you know that anyone commenting here isn’t outraged about the treatment or situation of boat people?) but you come across as quite immoral and ignorant by making a pun about animal cruelty in an animal discussion thread.

Hanksinatra said :

If only Canberra’s moral outrage could be extended to people…for example boat people.

See… there are many ways to skin a cat.

Oh shut up.

forgoodnessake8:23 am 14 Dec 11

I think it is quite hilarious that people are ragging out on those who believe certain research which points to links between abuse of animals and tendencies towards sociopathic, psychotic or other acts such as murder or abuse of humans later in life.

Do you realise how hypocritical you are being by saying the research is wrong?

How the hell would you know otherwise? When I make a decision to beleive something I read I take in BOTH sides of an argument and make an informed choice to beleive what I think is right. You have made your choice not to believe based on the facts you see as being the strongest.

I would truley love to read (NOT being sarcastic) the research that has made you feel soooo strongly against animal cruelty or abuse of this nature having any links at all to real acts of cruelty against humans or serial killers actions etc. I would love the chance to hear a strong argument saying otherwise as it gives me far more hope for the human race….

If only Canberra’s moral outrage could be extended to people…for example boat people. See… there are many ways to skin a cat.

I live in the appartment block where this happened with six other residents not including those associated with this boy. As much as I sympathise with those people out there who want justice done to him, the real problem is the group of teenagers who reside in this specific flat.
We have been dealing with this rubbish for over seven months now and unfortunately ACT Housing tells us all that their hands are tied, that they cannot simply evict these kids, despite the fact that this is not the first time they have caused harm to our property or intimidated and threatened any of us verbally or otherwise; though it is certainly the most heinous crime they have yet commited. ACT Housing are telling us to go to the police. The police tell us to go to Housing. When is enough, enough? Must one of us be physically assaulted in order for someone to pay attention? Obviously, this awful event was not enough.
All the residents of these flats, excluding these kids, are kind and gentle people. Yes, they may be a little eccentric but as far as public housing complexes go, I could not wish for better or more curteous and caring neighbours. That they should have to live in fear is unacceptable and cruel. ACT Housing are treating these kids like they are the victims and we, the perpetrators. We have done nothing more than exercise our right to a peaceful neighbourhood by involving police as regularly as possible. Though nothing is done. This is the real crime.
I know that the owner of that cat loved him and cared for him. He did not deserve this. And we do not deserve to live next to those people who are capable of such an unspeakable crime that only adds to the long, long list of what they have already done.
I am sick of feeling unsafe even in my own home. I am sick of waiting for police to arrive only to do nothing. I am sick of preventing my friends and family coming over of a weekend night for fear of their safety as they walk up the stairwell. I am sick of hiding in my flat. I am sick of turning the music up loud to drown out the sounds of their domestic violence.
We are sick of being unheard.
We are sick of being ignored.

HenryBG said :

schmeah said :

qbngeek said :

schmeah said :

Human scum .. offenders like this should not be bailed. This is how psychopaths are made; they start torturing animals until they get bored and then they move onto other victims who typically have very little agency; children or the socially marginalised .. seriously; deal with this behaviour before it gets much worse .. I wish there was someway of preventing some people from ever owning animals.

As has been discussed ont his site before, what little evidence there is to support your theory is shaky at best. While I despise animal harmers, this argument is right up there with ‘violent video games/certain types of music/Twilight causes terrorism/crime/murder/rape/torture/offensive language’.

Judging by the thread, I’m not alone and my assesment .. and doing a simple google search like ‘studies that link animal cruelty to psychopathy’ results in numerous hits .. .

Excellent.

So we have one posse of pitchfork-wielding villagers, and a google search that returns a bunch of hits.

What more evidence do we need?

Why do we waste time and funding on academic and scientific research when we could just ask the village idiot?

Yeah, what the hell do people know. Better let the animal bashers off with a warning, let’s hope they never live near you as adults.

https://www.ncjrs.gov/html/ojjdp/jjbul2001_9_2/page6.html

The Animal Abuse-Human Violence Link, Progressive Animal Welfare Society, at
http://www.paws.org/help/report/connection.php

Understanding the Link® between violence to people and animals, American Humane Association, at
http://www.americanhumane.org/site/PageServer?pagename=nr_fact_sheets_link

Phyllis M. Daugherty, Animal abusers may be warming up for more (February 24, 2005), at
http://www.lacp.org/2005-Articles-Main/LAPDsDedicatedAnimalCrueltyUnit.html

Not equating the work of DAS with this kids actions FFS

The point was that, as a tangent, some people give a s**** about the tree but not the forest.

A lot of emotional words surround the welfare of animals, but there’s a shortage of people prepared to take the next step and act.

People hit wildlife all the time and leave it to die in agony by the side of the road. Is the strike deliberate? Most often not. But not stopping to check it is a deliberate decision.

qbngeek said :

schmeah said :

Human scum .. offenders like this should not be bailed. This is how psychopaths are made; they start torturing animals until they get bored and then they move onto other victims who typically have very little agency; children or the socially marginalised .. seriously; deal with this behaviour before it gets much worse .. I wish there was someway of preventing some people from ever owning animals.

As has been discussed ont his site before, what little evidence there is to support your theory is shaky at best. While I despise animal harmers, this argument is right up there with ‘violent video games/certain types of music/Twilight causes terrorism/crime/murder/rape/torture/offensive language’.

do you honestly think that, given the details of the crime committed here, there’s not something fundamentally wrong with this ‘kid’? do you think it is likely or unlikely that he will go on to commit further crimes in the future?

Missing from this discussion is scorn for this barely-still-a-child’s parents. Imagine what they are like. And what they did to him. I don’t think you torture animals unless you have had a pretty depraved upbringing. (Not making excuses for a 16-year-old though!) Whose was the apartment?
I hope there isn’t a nasty circle of Facebook friends making sport with this episode.

2.0 said :

Or just cable tie his legs together then throw him of a 2 storey building. see how he likes it!

Totally. THEN send him to jail.

Quite a fantasy about teenagers boys you got going there matt. So go of you to volunteer an answer.

matt31221 said :

I hope the cat recovers and is cared for by a cat loving owner. And this cruel kid eventually goes to adult jail. Also that there is a huge 7foot crim with a penchant for backdoor love in that same jail that decides that this cat hater is his type. And that they are housed in the same cell – “come here pussycat!! NOW I’VE GOT YOU PUSSYCAT!”

I hope the cat recovers and is cared for by a cat loving owner. And this cruel kid eventually goes to adult jail. Also that there is a huge 7foot crim with a penchant for backdoor love in that same jail that decides that this cat hater is his type. And that they are housed in the same cell – “come here pussycat!! NOW I’VE GOT YOU PUSSYCAT!”

What more evidence do we need?

Why do we waste time and funding on academic and scientific research when we could just ask the village idiot?

The trouble is finding the right idiot to ask…

Postalgeek said :

Good to see people care about the welfare of a single cat. But I wonder how many animals DAS put down today at the close of business because they couldn’t find foster carers?

There is a big difference between humane euthanasia and deliberate torture of animals.

Postalgeek said :

Good to see people care about the welfare of a single cat. But I wonder how many animals DAS put down today at the close of business because they couldn’t find foster carers?

Do DAS torture the cats before they put them down?

I think there’s a massive distinction between the human euthanasia of homeless cats and throwing a cat off a balcony for kicks, don’t you think?

Postalgeek said :

Good to see people care about the welfare of a single cat. But I wonder how many animals DAS put down today at the close of business because they couldn’t find foster carers?

While you are right to be concerned about how many animals are put down, they are at least killed by injection and don’t suffer extreme pain and fear like this poor cat. I’m sure the staff hate doing it too.

Postalgeek said :

Good to see people care about the welfare of a single cat. But I wonder how many animals DAS put down today at the close of business because they couldn’t find foster carers?

Did DAS deliberately inflict pain on them?

Good to see people care about the welfare of a single cat. But I wonder how many animals DAS put down today at the close of business because they couldn’t find foster carers?

schmeah said :

qbngeek said :

schmeah said :

Human scum .. offenders like this should not be bailed. This is how psychopaths are made; they start torturing animals until they get bored and then they move onto other victims who typically have very little agency; children or the socially marginalised .. seriously; deal with this behaviour before it gets much worse .. I wish there was someway of preventing some people from ever owning animals.

As has been discussed ont his site before, what little evidence there is to support your theory is shaky at best. While I despise animal harmers, this argument is right up there with ‘violent video games/certain types of music/Twilight causes terrorism/crime/murder/rape/torture/offensive language’.

Judging by the thread, I’m not alone and my assesment .. and doing a simple google search like ‘studies that link animal cruelty to psychopathy’ results in numerous hits .. but, clearly the Rioters are the experts .. so let’s just press ahead as if animal cruelty has no bearing.

You know the expression “great minds think alike”? Well, not so great ones do too. Just because other people might think sometime to be true, doesn’t mean it is.

schmeah said :

qbngeek said :

schmeah said :

Human scum .. offenders like this should not be bailed. This is how psychopaths are made; they start torturing animals until they get bored and then they move onto other victims who typically have very little agency; children or the socially marginalised .. seriously; deal with this behaviour before it gets much worse .. I wish there was someway of preventing some people from ever owning animals.

As has been discussed ont his site before, what little evidence there is to support your theory is shaky at best. While I despise animal harmers, this argument is right up there with ‘violent video games/certain types of music/Twilight causes terrorism/crime/murder/rape/torture/offensive language’.

Judging by the thread, I’m not alone and my assesment .. and doing a simple google search like ‘studies that link animal cruelty to psychopathy’ results in numerous hits .. .

Excellent.

So we have one posse of pitchfork-wielding villagers, and a google search that returns a bunch of hits.

What more evidence do we need?

Why do we waste time and funding on academic and scientific research when we could just ask the village idiot?

1 month good behaviour + court costs (which he won’t be able to pay). Being under 18 and pleading guilty will probably free him from any punishment.

qbngeek said :

schmeah said :

Human scum .. offenders like this should not be bailed. This is how psychopaths are made; they start torturing animals until they get bored and then they move onto other victims who typically have very little agency; children or the socially marginalised .. seriously; deal with this behaviour before it gets much worse .. I wish there was someway of preventing some people from ever owning animals.

As has been discussed ont his site before, what little evidence there is to support your theory is shaky at best. While I despise animal harmers, this argument is right up there with ‘violent video games/certain types of music/Twilight causes terrorism/crime/murder/rape/torture/offensive language’.

Judging by the thread, I’m not alone and my assesment .. and doing a simple google search like ‘studies that link animal cruelty to psychopathy’ results in numerous hits .. but, clearly the Rioters are the experts .. so let’s just press ahead as if animal cruelty has no bearing.

I feel sick to my stomach after reading this. Unbelievable. I hope the poor cat recovers.

Anyone who thinks it’s okay to do torture any animal has to have some form of psychosis.

Cable tie his legs and throw him in a cell with the swan molester!

schmeah said :

Human scum .. offenders like this should not be bailed. This is how psychopaths are made; they start torturing animals until they get bored and then they move onto other victims who typically have very little agency; children or the socially marginalised .. seriously; deal with this behaviour before it gets much worse .. I wish there was someway of preventing some people from ever owning animals.

As has been discussed ont his site before, what little evidence there is to support your theory is shaky at best. While I despise animal harmers, this argument is right up there with ‘violent video games/certain types of music/Twilight causes terrorism/crime/murder/rape/torture/offensive language’.

forgoodnessake2:47 pm 13 Dec 11

That kid needs some serious counselling and help if we don’t want wait another 10 years to hear a news story about a manic serial killer who was once convicted and charged with animal cruelty … isn’t this how it all starts? The poor cat 🙁 I really hope it can be mended both physically and psychologocally after an ordeal like that.

Get this guy sorted pronto.Get Psych assessment done and deal with his psychopathic tendencies before he becomes bored with animals and advances to torturing human beings.Lock him up!

Human scum .. offenders like this should not be bailed. This is how psychopaths are made; they start torturing animals until they get bored and then they move onto other victims who typically have very little agency; children or the socially marginalised .. seriously; deal with this behaviour before it gets much worse .. I wish there was someway of preventing some people from ever owning animals.

creative_canberran1:43 pm 13 Dec 11

+1 PBO

Keep an eye on the Magistrates Court/Supreme Court website in coming months. Even if police and the media don’t name him, dockets and judgements will be published on there and a few keywords should find out who this sicko is. Oh wait, he’s appearing in the Children’s Court where they don’t seem to publish those documents. WTF? This is far more than a kids prank.

Try him as an adult, bound his limbs and make him crawl through Garema Place at lunch hour with a sign saying “I torture defenceless animals.”

Or just cable tie his legs together then throw him of a 2 storey building. see how he likes it!

Name and shame and then slap him in the pokey for a few years.

If by pokey you mean face, then I agree.

I will never hear the formerly harmless expression ‘enough room to swing a cat’ again without remembering this. Horrible. I hope the cat can recover.

Acts of aggravated cruelty:
6. (1) For the purposes of this Act, a person commits an act of aggravated
cruelty upon an animal if he commits an act of cruelty upon an animal that
results in the death, deformity or serious disablement of the animal.
(2) A person shall not commit an act of aggravated cruelty upon an animal.
Penalty: $5,000 or imprisonment for 2 years, or both.

Send him up the river.

Tetranitrate12:45 pm 13 Dec 11

Presumably the two story balcony that the cat was thrown from is at the flats near the shops.
ie: these flats: http://the-riotact.com/scullin-stabbing/46953

Yes, I second that PBO!

Name him, seriously, name him.

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