2 August 2012

And the Mully Cup for July 2012 goes to; The Concerned Citizens of Canberra

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Readers will doubtless be thrilled to learn that Canberra’s answer to the Ku Klux Klan, the Concerned Citizens of Canberra for their vile bit of dog whistling in Gungahlin against the long planned mosque.

It’s true the story kicked off on 28 June but the comments waged long and loud as bigots crawled out of the woodwork to show their sickening true colours.

Ending up with 246 comments and spawning a couple of extra stories it was a worthy Mully Cup winner for July 2012.

(The Mully Cup is awarded monthly to the entity stimulating the most comment on this website. It is named in memory (if not in honour) of Justin Mully Williams who both improved our world, and set the record for comments, in his departure)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietrich_Bonhoeffer

This is an article about a German theologian who was adamantly opposed to the Nazis and executed by the Gestapo. He has a statue inside Westminster Abbey, alongside Martin Luther King.

HenryBG said :

johnboy said :

I you want to see sectarian violence try asking all of Canberra’s Christians to share the same facility.

Doesn’t happen. Because Christians were dragged out of the dark ages by a couple of centuries of warfare followed by the scientific revolution. Islam still has all that to go through. And I for one don’t believe we should allow them to go through any of it here.

HenryBG said :

The biggest Protestant group in 1930s Germany (Deutsche Christen) was a group whose aim was to combine Nazism with Christianity to create a new Nationalist Christian cult. They picked through their religion to get rid of anything that seemed too “foreign” or “jewish”.

The Nazis themselves regarded themselves as militant Christians, although there was a lot of revived weirdo Teutonic pagan nonsense going on as well.

There was nothing godless about them – that’s just the propaganda put about since the end of the 1,000-year Reich by the rest of the world’s Christian god-botherers, embarrassed as they are that the world’s 2nd-worst regime of mass-murderers was adamantly inspired by the Christian religion.

Are you arguing against yourself now HenryBG?

I suggest a cup of tea, a Bex and a good lie down.

HenryBG said :

The biggest Protestant group in 1930s Germany (Deutsche Christen) was a group whose aim was to combine Nazism with Christianity to create a new Nationalist Christian cult… … … … regime of mass-murderers was adamantly inspired by the Christian religion.

HenryBG, given that it’s clear from your earlier post that you don’t know basic history such as the contribution Islam had made to the world’s knowledge by the turn of the 11th century, it looks as though you must have got your grasp of this from a quick google/wikipedia search!

johnboy said :

It should be noted that the big german theologians went to the mat and paid with their lives in opposing nazism which was essentially godless.
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Who fed you that, JB?

The biggest Protestant group in 1930s Germany (Deutsche Christen) was a group whose aim was to combine Nazism with Christianity to create a new Nationalist Christian cult. They picked through their religion to get rid of anything that seemed too “foreign” or “jewish”.

The Nazis themselves regarded themselves as militant Christians, although there was a lot of revived weirdo Teutonic pagan nonsense going on as well.

There was nothing godless about them – that’s just the propaganda put about since the end of the 1,000-year Reich by the rest of the world’s Christian god-botherers, embarrassed as they are that the world’s 2nd-worst regime of mass-murderers was adamantly inspired by the Christian religion.

AAMC said :

Hey JB, I note the inaugural Mully Trophy is quickly running out of space to record it illustrious recipients names and contributions.

Are there any plans to produce a new symbol of Riot act hysteria; a Mully mark 2″

Can I suggest that, if the Mully is to be replaced, the RA:

1. Produce a commemorative 1/16th scale “mully” for purchase.
2. Give it an appropriate send off, maybe a parade up northbound (We could get Lorie daily to drop it off the back of a mini moke)

Can we not just make it bigger? Stick another hubcap and layer of cans on. I’m happy to provide empty woodstocks if someone else supplies the cap.

Full woodstocks only for the mully!

It should be noted that the big german theologians went to the mat and paid with their lives in opposing nazism which was essentially godless.

And Godwin.

Pork Hunt said :

What religion did the Nazis observe?

The NSDAP was a political rather than a religious movement, most members of the party and those under its governance would have probably claim adherence to some branch of mainstream Christianity.
Your point is ….?

What religion did the Nazis observe?

p1 said :

LSWCHP said :

Ok, But Iceland? Of all the fantastic travel destinations available in the world, why Iceland?

Iceland has always been pretty high on my list of places to visit. Considerably higher on the list then Japan, all other things being equal.

For the record, I have no Icelandic friends, but I have a friend who was arrested there once.

I visited for a month about 15 years ago.

It is absolutely fantastic. I’m pretty well travelled and I would say that Iceland tops the list of places I’ve visited.

4W-Driving on Vatnajokull Glacier is pretty hard to beat, as are the Northern lights, and the absolutely mad Icelandic people. If you want a good drinking buddy find an Icelander.

It’s not all that far off the beaten track – a quick flight from Heathrow, and now that their economy has tanked I would guess it’s a fair bit cheaper than it was in the past.

Highly recommended.

johnboy said :

Believe it or not I have strayed beyond the ACT border from time to time. Why just last weekend I was in Japan.

And haven’t given a wardrobe acquisition update. Ms Manners is appalled, after all those nice people helped.

LSWCHP said :

Ok, But Iceland? Of all the fantastic travel destinations available in the world, why Iceland?

Iceland has always been pretty high on my list of places to visit. Considerably higher on the list then Japan, all other things being equal.

For the record, I have no Icelandic friends, but I have a friend who was arrested there once.

johnboy said :

Believe it or not I have strayed beyond the ACT border from time to time. Why just last weekend I was in Japan.

Ok, But Iceland? Of all the fantastic travel destinations available in the world, why Iceland?

Now Japan, I can understand that. I spent a week there (mostly on a warship in Yokosuka harbour unfortunately) in 1997, and one day I intend to go back there. It’s a fantastic place.

Oh I never went there! Just met icelanders out and about in parts other.

Since that tragic day Herne’s ghost is said to haunt the forest as a bizarre and terrifying sight. He is said to wear a deerskin robe with a strange helmet made from a stag’s skull complete with branching antlers. He is often reported as having an owl flying above him and sometimes can be seen riding a black horse with blazing red eyes while leading a pack of demon dogs.

🙂

Sounds like my boss.

johnboy said :

My icelandic friends tell me worshiping thor involves a lot of eating pork and hitting each other while drinking beer if that helps.

Icelandic friends? Seriously? Is there actually an Icelandic community (ie more than 2 people) in Canberra?

Believe it or not I have strayed beyond the ACT border from time to time. Why just last weekend I was in Japan.

AAMC said :

1. Produce a commemorative 1/16th scale “mully” for purchase.
2. Give it an appropriate send off, maybe a parade up northbound (We could get Lorie daily to drop it off the back of a mini moke)

I like (1) – I would buy one if I won it. And I like (2), if we can do it during summergnats, and only if it travels in the back of a white commodore.

If (as someone suggested in the past) another tier is added, I would like to suggest that a large chrome hub-cap is used, as that is what the better class of bogans have on their cars

Jim Jones said :

Baldy said :

devils_advocate said :

Jim Jones said :

The Satanic Bible by La Vey is an interesting read (and good to have on the bookshelf to annoy fundies), but it’s not much more than (very American) libertarian political theory with a hedonistic foundation (written by a carny no less). It’s not got any religious content per se.

I don’t think it has any content full stop. It talks about selfism, and tbh it appears there is no shortage of that. As a book, it promises little and delivers less.

Ah. So basically it’s about Gen Y then 😀

I should clarify that It’s not religion per se that i am interested in, just the cultural aspects of relgion and the way people live their lives around their beliefs, which a quick read on Wikipedia says this falls into.

Are then any Satanist that also actually worship satan text out there as well?

‘Satanists’ that actually worship Satan are usually disgruntled Catholics railing against unpleasant upbringings. Satan is a character in Christian mythology after all.

There was a loose-knit ‘satanic’ movement of opposition to Christianity around Scandinavian regions, but they fairly quickly abandoned the whole satanist schtick (after burning down a few old churches mind you) and stated paying homage to the ‘ancient religions’ that predated Christianity instead (Christianity being largely responsible for preventing worship of Odin, Thor, and all that lot). The book Lords of Chaos covers a bit of it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lords_of_Chaos_%28book%29)

The satanic statements sum up and represent how myself and most satanists I know view Satan. It is a representation rather than an all powerful god-like figure. Besides, belief in invisible beings that you talk to and that control your life is nothing more than insanity.

Hey JB, I note the inaugural Mully Trophy is quickly running out of space to record it illustrious recipients names and contributions.

Are there any plans to produce a new symbol of Riot act hysteria; a Mully mark 2″

Can I suggest that, if the Mully is to be replaced, the RA:

1. Produce a commemorative 1/16th scale “mully” for purchase.
2. Give it an appropriate send off, maybe a parade up northbound (We could get Lorie daily to drop it off the back of a mini moke)

poetix said :

It would seem that to believe in Satan then one must believe in the christian god given that Satan, the devil, was a christian construct of the middle ages.

Also interestingly it seems possible that that Herne the Hunter could represent the Norse god Odin who was known to the Anglo-Saxons as Woden, Lord of the Wild Hunt.

Incidentally, the Wild Hunt is an ancient folk myth prevalent across Northern, Western and Central Europe which tells of a ghostly group of huntsmen with the all accoutrements of hunting such as horses, bugles and hounds in mad pursuit across the skies or along the ground, or just above it. The hunters may be the dead or fairies or even unidentified lost souls, deities, spirits, historical figures or mythical figures such as Woden.

That sounds pretty much like the Woden bus interchange, with the lost souls and all.

Incidentally, Islam has Shaitan too.

Shaitan is a different kind of beast to the Christian Satan, and is more derived from the Old Testament satan, who is ‘the adversary’ – an accuser appointed by God to test men’s faith (kind of like a devil’s advocate), rather than an enemy of God. The whole ‘battle of light and dark’ thing owes a lot to Manicheanism and religious paranoia.

Unsurprisingly, a lot of the Norse revivalists have unsavoury links with the far right.

It would seem that to believe in Satan then one must believe in the christian god given that Satan, the devil, was a christian construct of the middle ages.

Also interestingly it seems possible that that Herne the Hunter could represent the Norse god Odin who was known to the Anglo-Saxons as Woden, Lord of the Wild Hunt.

Incidentally, the Wild Hunt is an ancient folk myth prevalent across Northern, Western and Central Europe which tells of a ghostly group of huntsmen with the all accoutrements of hunting such as horses, bugles and hounds in mad pursuit across the skies or along the ground, or just above it. The hunters may be the dead or fairies or even unidentified lost souls, deities, spirits, historical figures or mythical figures such as Woden.

Which has got absolutely nothing to do with mosques 🙂

Good point with the Satan worship but is it possible that Satan was just another god that got absorbed and demonisd into Christianity. They certainly did a lot of that when taking over new land.

It would seem that to believe in Satan then one must believe in the christian god given that Satan, the devil, was a christian construct of the middle ages.

Also interestingly it seems possible that that Herne the Hunter could represent the Norse god Odin who was known to the Anglo-Saxons as Woden, Lord of the Wild Hunt.

Incidentally, the Wild Hunt is an ancient folk myth prevalent across Northern, Western and Central Europe which tells of a ghostly group of huntsmen with the all accoutrements of hunting such as horses, bugles and hounds in mad pursuit across the skies or along the ground, or just above it. The hunters may be the dead or fairies or even unidentified lost souls, deities, spirits, historical figures or mythical figures such as Woden.

That sounds pretty much like the Woden bus interchange, with the lost souls and all.

Incidentally, Islam has Shaitan too.

p1 said :

Jim Jones said :

There was a loose-knit ‘satanic’ movement of opposition to Christianity around Scandinavian regions, but they fairly quickly abandoned the whole satanist schtick (after burning down a few old churches mind you) and stated paying homage to the ‘ancient religions’ that predated Christianity instead (Christianity being largely responsible for preventing worship of Odin, Thor, and all that lot). The book Lords of Chaos covers a bit of it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lords_of_Chaos_%28book%29)

Interestingly, I recently clicked on a hash tag on a photo of Woden, and found out that the word W?den is popular with crazy northern European white power fanboys.

You get that.

I work with a Thorist at the moment but he doesn’t like talking about it much unfortunatly.

My icelandic friends tell me worshiping thor involves a lot of eating pork and hitting each other while drinking beer if that helps.

Jim Jones said :

There was a loose-knit ‘satanic’ movement of opposition to Christianity around Scandinavian regions, but they fairly quickly abandoned the whole satanist schtick (after burning down a few old churches mind you) and stated paying homage to the ‘ancient religions’ that predated Christianity instead (Christianity being largely responsible for preventing worship of Odin, Thor, and all that lot). The book Lords of Chaos covers a bit of it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lords_of_Chaos_%28book%29)

Interestingly, I recently clicked on a hash tag on a photo of Woden, and found out that the word W?den is popular with crazy northern European white power fanboys.

Baldy said :

devils_advocate said :

Jim Jones said :

The Satanic Bible by La Vey is an interesting read (and good to have on the bookshelf to annoy fundies), but it’s not much more than (very American) libertarian political theory with a hedonistic foundation (written by a carny no less). It’s not got any religious content per se.

I don’t think it has any content full stop. It talks about selfism, and tbh it appears there is no shortage of that. As a book, it promises little and delivers less.

Ah. So basically it’s about Gen Y then 😀

I should clarify that It’s not religion per se that i am interested in, just the cultural aspects of relgion and the way people live their lives around their beliefs, which a quick read on Wikipedia says this falls into.

Are then any Satanist that also actually worship satan text out there as well?

‘Satanists’ that actually worship Satan are usually disgruntled Catholics railing against unpleasant upbringings. Satan is a character in Christian mythology after all.

There was a loose-knit ‘satanic’ movement of opposition to Christianity around Scandinavian regions, but they fairly quickly abandoned the whole satanist schtick (after burning down a few old churches mind you) and stated paying homage to the ‘ancient religions’ that predated Christianity instead (Christianity being largely responsible for preventing worship of Odin, Thor, and all that lot). The book Lords of Chaos covers a bit of it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lords_of_Chaos_%28book%29)

devils_advocate said :

Jim Jones said :

The Satanic Bible by La Vey is an interesting read (and good to have on the bookshelf to annoy fundies), but it’s not much more than (very American) libertarian political theory with a hedonistic foundation (written by a carny no less). It’s not got any religious content per se.

I don’t think it has any content full stop. It talks about selfism, and tbh it appears there is no shortage of that. As a book, it promises little and delivers less.

Ah. So basically it’s about Gen Y then 😀

I should clarify that It’s not religion per se that i am interested in, just the cultural aspects of relgion and the way people live their lives around their beliefs, which a quick read on Wikipedia says this falls into.

Are then any Satanist that also actually worship satan text out there as well?

devils_advocate11:36 am 03 Aug 12

Jim Jones said :

The Satanic Bible by La Vey is an interesting read (and good to have on the bookshelf to annoy fundies), but it’s not much more than (very American) libertarian political theory with a hedonistic foundation (written by a carny no less). It’s not got any religious content per se.

I don’t think it has any content full stop. It talks about selfism, and tbh it appears there is no shortage of that. As a book, it promises little and delivers less.

Baldy said :

Stevian said :

qbngeek said :

wildturkeycanoe said :

I wonder if white supremacists wanted to build a place for Devil worship, would the ACT government give permission in the interests of cultural diversity?

As a Satanist I feel the need to point out that the vast majority of white supremacy groups identify as Christians or Atheists. In fact Stupidity, as shown by white supremacy groups, CCC and HenryBG, is our biggest sin.

True, more people should read La Vey it’s just possible they might learn something

Interesting. I have never really looked at Satanism when I have been researching world religions. Maybe I should look into it if what you say above is true.

The Satanic Bible by La Vey is an interesting read (and good to have on the bookshelf to annoy fundies), but it’s not much more than (very American) libertarian political theory with a hedonistic foundation (written by a carny no less). It’s not got any religious content per se.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd11:17 am 03 Aug 12

Still waiting for henrybg to put up some facts on his statements.

clear troll, make ignorant and or instigative comments with no evidence to back them up.

Stevian said :

qbngeek said :

wildturkeycanoe said :

I wonder if white supremacists wanted to build a place for Devil worship, would the ACT government give permission in the interests of cultural diversity?

As a Satanist I feel the need to point out that the vast majority of white supremacy groups identify as Christians or Atheists. In fact Stupidity, as shown by white supremacy groups, CCC and HenryBG, is our biggest sin.

True, more people should read La Vey it’s just possible they might learn something

Interesting. I have never really looked at Satanism when I have been researching world religions. Maybe I should look into it if what you say above is true.

qbngeek said :

wildturkeycanoe said :

I wonder if white supremacists wanted to build a place for Devil worship, would the ACT government give permission in the interests of cultural diversity?

As a Satanist I feel the need to point out that the vast majority of white supremacy groups identify as Christians or Atheists. In fact Stupidity, as shown by white supremacy groups, CCC and HenryBG, is our biggest sin.

True, more people should read La Vey it’s just possible they might learn something

johnboy said :

HenryBG said :

Well, *hopefully* it will.

You don’t want 1 billion of your fellow-human beings living under a growingly repressive and backward islamism without any hope of a secular, democratic future, do you?

Buddhists and Hindus seem to be capable of integrating the various concepts intrinsic to modern civilisation into their cultures and systems of governance.

Something tells me you haven’t really formed a long-term view on what’s going on here, Jim.

At the growing risk you’re just a troll.

Islam is not Islamism. And sections of all religions (and probably militant atheism given a chance) are incredibly repressive.

If you think everyone of a given religion is advancing the repressive cause you’re nothing more than a blithering idiot.

The smart money is on ‘blithering idiot’ (the bigotry is really just a bit of a bonus stemming from years of living with cultural blinkers on).

HenryBG said :

Jim Jones said :

HenryBG said :

Jim Jones said :

HenryBG said :

Doesn’t happen. Because Christians were dragged out of the dark ages by a couple of centuries of warfare followed by the scientific revolution. Islam still has all that to go through. And I for one don’t believe we should allow them to go through any of it here.

And just think: Hinduism and Buddhism and other religions haven’t gone through that either ….

Why would they?

No competent analyst would support your train of thought. You need to think harder. Or maybe just try to stop thinking up arguments to support the inexcusable.

But Islam would?

Well, *hopefully* it will.

You don’t want 1 billion of your fellow-human beings living under a growingly repressive and backward islamism without any hope of a secular, democratic future, do you?

Buddhists and Hindus seem to be capable of integrating the various concepts intrinsic to modern civilisation into their cultures and systems of governance.

Something tells me you haven’t really formed a long-term view on what’s going on here, Jim.

And something tells me you’re thinking about Islam isn’t much more nuanced or historically informed than those cringeworthy Americans who are convinced that all Muslims are Enemies of Freedom because of 9/11.

HenryBG said :

Well, *hopefully* it will.

You don’t want 1 billion of your fellow-human beings living under a growingly repressive and backward islamism without any hope of a secular, democratic future, do you?

Buddhists and Hindus seem to be capable of integrating the various concepts intrinsic to modern civilisation into their cultures and systems of governance.

Something tells me you haven’t really formed a long-term view on what’s going on here, Jim.

At the growing risk you’re just a troll.

Islam is not Islamism. And sections of all religions (and probably militant atheism given a chance) are incredibly repressive.

If you think everyone of a given religion is advancing the repressive cause you’re nothing more than a blithering idiot.

We could be heading for a double Mully here folks.

The end of the internet? Quite possibly.

Who would have thought that a little, but feisty website in a far flung outpost such as Canberra could start the demise of civilisation as we know it.

These are dark days my friends.

Dark days because we haven’t had a couple of centuries of warfare followed by the scientific revolution. Once we’ve had that I’m sure it’ll all be sweet.

Jim Jones said :

HenryBG said :

Jim Jones said :

HenryBG said :

Doesn’t happen. Because Christians were dragged out of the dark ages by a couple of centuries of warfare followed by the scientific revolution. Islam still has all that to go through. And I for one don’t believe we should allow them to go through any of it here.

And just think: Hinduism and Buddhism and other religions haven’t gone through that either ….

Why would they?

No competent analyst would support your train of thought. You need to think harder. Or maybe just try to stop thinking up arguments to support the inexcusable.

But Islam would?

Well, *hopefully* it will.

You don’t want 1 billion of your fellow-human beings living under a growingly repressive and backward islamism without any hope of a secular, democratic future, do you?

Buddhists and Hindus seem to be capable of integrating the various concepts intrinsic to modern civilisation into their cultures and systems of governance.

Something tells me you haven’t really formed a long-term view on what’s going on here, Jim.

wildturkeycanoe said :

I wonder if white supremacists wanted to build a place for Devil worship, would the ACT government give permission in the interests of cultural diversity?

As a Satanist I feel the need to point out that the vast majority of white supremacy groups identify as Christians or Atheists. In fact Stupidity, as shown by white supremacy groups, CCC and HenryBG, is our biggest sin.

Such a shame HenryBG can’t back up his usual bigoted comments, otherwise he might actually come over like he knows what the f**k he’s talking about.

As a resident of Yarralumla and a neighbour of the Mosque all I see are happy families worshipping together. I guess they must be training suicide bombers out of sight ehh?

HenryBG said :

…Christians were dragged out of the dark ages by a couple of centuries of warfare followed by the scientific revolution…

They were?

Yipee! I eagerly await the results.

HenryBG said :

Jim Jones said :

HenryBG said :

Doesn’t happen. Because Christians were dragged out of the dark ages by a couple of centuries of warfare followed by the scientific revolution. Islam still has all that to go through. And I for one don’t believe we should allow them to go through any of it here.

And just think: Hinduism and Buddhism and other religions haven’t gone through that either ….

Why would they?

No competent analyst would support your train of thought. You need to think harder. Or maybe just try to stop thinking up arguments to support the inexcusable.

But Islam would?

Seems to me that you’ve started arguing against yourself now.

devils_advocate9:08 am 03 Aug 12

I used to wonder who it was that filled out the bottom tail of the intelligence distribution.

Thank god the internet has come to the rescue on that one.

Jim Jones said :

HenryBG said :

Doesn’t happen. Because Christians were dragged out of the dark ages by a couple of centuries of warfare followed by the scientific revolution. Islam still has all that to go through. And I for one don’t believe we should allow them to go through any of it here.

And just think: Hinduism and Buddhism and other religions haven’t gone through that either ….

Why would they?

No competent analyst would support your train of thought. You need to think harder. Or maybe just try to stop thinking up arguments to support the inexcusable.

bikhet said :

HenryBG said :

johnboy said :

I you want to see sectarian violence try asking all of Canberra’s Christians to share the same facility.

Doesn’t happen. Because Christians were dragged out of the dark ages by a couple of centuries of warfare followed by the scientific revolution. Islam still has all that to go through. And I for one don’t believe we should allow them to go through any of it here.

Check out the history of the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem some time – some ding-dong battles between the Roman Catholics, Greek Orthodox and Armenian Apostolics.

Ditto the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem.

Is that near Yarralumla?

HenryBG said :

Doesn’t happen. Because Christians were dragged out of the dark ages by a couple of centuries of warfare followed by the scientific revolution. Islam still has all that to go through. And I for one don’t believe we should allow them to go through any of it here.

Don’t they still believe in some kind of god? Sounds pretty backward to me.

HenryBG said :

Doesn’t happen. Because Christians were dragged out of the dark ages by a couple of centuries of warfare followed by the scientific revolution. Islam still has all that to go through. And I for one don’t believe we should allow them to go through any of it here.

And just think: Hinduism and Buddhism and other religions haven’t gone through that either … but obviously they will follow the same path as Christianity, because we know that all religions have to follow exactly the same process of historical development as Christianity.

It’s gonna be really terrible when the rastafarians finally go through a couple of centuries of warfare followed by a scientific revolution.

HenryBG said :

johnboy said :

I you want to see sectarian violence try asking all of Canberra’s Christians to share the same facility.

Doesn’t happen. Because Christians were dragged out of the dark ages by a couple of centuries of warfare followed by the scientific revolution. Islam still has all that to go through. And I for one don’t believe we should allow them to go through any of it here.

Check out the history of the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem some time – some ding-dong battles between the Roman Catholics, Greek Orthodox and Armenian Apostolics.

Ditto the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem.

HenryBG said :

johnboy said :

I you want to see sectarian violence try asking all of Canberra’s Christians to share the same facility.

Doesn’t happen. Because Christians were dragged out of the dark ages by a couple of centuries of warfare followed by the scientific revolution. Islam still has all that to go through. And I for one don’t believe we should allow them to go through any of it here.

Please then Sir, explain to me the conflicts that have occurred in Northern Ireland over the last 100 years or so. As a child I often wondered why white people were fighting each other in N Ireland when everywhere else wars were fought between black people and white people…

HenryBG said :

johnboy said :

I you want to see sectarian violence try asking all of Canberra’s Christians to share the same facility.

Doesn’t happen. Because Christians were dragged out of the dark ages by a couple of centuries of warfare followed by the scientific revolution. Islam still has all that to go through. And I for one don’t believe we should allow them to go through any of it here.

You are aware the Western scientific revolution relied upon the advances in mathematics and science made by the Islamic world?

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd5:48 pm 02 Aug 12

HenryBG said :

johnboy said :

I you want to see sectarian violence try asking all of Canberra’s Christians to share the same facility.

Doesn’t happen. Because Christians were dragged out of the dark ages by a couple of centuries of warfare followed by the scientific revolution. Islam still has all that to go through. And I for one don’t believe we should allow them to go through any of it here.

What lil tiny world are you living in?

Anyways, answer the question, what thuggery and violence happens @ yaralumla mosque?

johnboy said :

I you want to see sectarian violence try asking all of Canberra’s Christians to share the same facility.

Can I have first sneer at the Canberra Crustacean Lobby?

johnboy said :

I you want to see sectarian violence try asking all of Canberra’s Christians to share the same facility.

LOL. Now you’re talkin’!

After all, public schools have been required to share their facilities with private schools. 😀

johnboy said :

I you want to see sectarian violence try asking all of Canberra’s Christians to share the same facility.

Doesn’t happen. Because Christians were dragged out of the dark ages by a couple of centuries of warfare followed by the scientific revolution. Islam still has all that to go through. And I for one don’t believe we should allow them to go through any of it here.

wildturkeycanoe said :

In the spirit of curiosity and scientific research, I will add to this to see if the “Mully squared” theory will be proven.
I wonder if white supremacists wanted to build a place for Devil worship, would the ACT government give permission in the interests of cultural diversity?….

In the spirit of Mully squared I don’t think white supremacists and Devil worship are formally linked. Some white supremacists claim to be Christian, like the KKK. Of course, where they go after they’re dead is open to speculation…

wildturkeycanoe3:41 pm 02 Aug 12

In the spirit of curiosity and scientific research, I will add to this to see if the “Mully squared” theory will be proven.
I wonder if white supremacists wanted to build a place for Devil worship, would the ACT government give permission in the interests of cultural diversity?
Would a Jedi hall be allowed next to a Vulcan temple?
I cannot see any issues with the Mosque where it is located, no houses nearby and can’t see it from my place.

devils_advocate3:31 pm 02 Aug 12

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Same thing as if you type ‘google’ into google.

That was more anti-climactic than Y2K.

colourful sydney racing identity2:44 pm 02 Aug 12

devils_advocate said :

Now that the idiots have chimed in to try and have a second bit at defending their idiocy, I must ask…

What happens if a mully award post generates its own mully?

Same thing as if you type ‘google’ into google.

HenryBG said :

Yeah, except for the thuggery and violence which has occurred in the past at the Yarralumla mosque….

Are you referring to the fracas that happened back in 2007 when an Imam was booted out of the mosque for his anti-western rants, and then had a restraining order placed on him to prevent him going near the mosque or members. An Islamic society secretary was punched a few times when they went to oust him.

Unless there are more incidences you can cite, it’s a bit rich to say Yarralumla mosque has a history of thuggery and violence based on a single incident. You could say that about any location where there has been an altercation. You could say the same thing about Parliament house with 4wds and union protests. Hospitals have a history of thuggery and violence. Thuggery and violence has occurred in schools in the past. You could say any church that has had an altercation on its grounds has a history of thuggery and violence. Where do you want to stop?

I you want to see sectarian violence try asking all of Canberra’s Christians to share the same facility.

HenryBG said :

You won’t catch too many white people going for walks on the street near the Lakemba Mosque on a Friday anymore, either…..shame social uncohesion has been promoted over assimilation by the dim apologist lefties.

You won’t find many people going for walks in Lakemba on a Friday – black, white or brindle

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd1:54 pm 02 Aug 12

HenryBG said :

Jungle Jim said :

PantsMan said :

To be fair johnboy, I really think the Mosque should have been located somewhere a bit more “appropriate”. Like Red Hill, Forrest, or Yarralumla.

What the hell would make one suburb more “appropriate” for a mosque than another??

It’s a place of worship, not a bloody prison or brothel or something that needs to be located away from suburbia.

Yeah, except for the thuggery and violence which has occurred in the past at the Yarralumla mosque….

You won’t catch too many white people going for walks on the street near the Lakemba Mosque on a Friday anymore, either…..shame social uncohesion has been promoted over assimilation by the dim apologist lefties.

Would much prefer to have some muslims living near me than a pos whiner who complains about the justice system yet skips jury duty.

What violence has been at yarralumbla mosque?

devils_advocate1:48 pm 02 Aug 12

Now that the idiots have chimed in to try and have a second bit at defending their idiocy, I must ask…

What happens if a mully award post generates its own mully?

Does the universe collapse in on itself and we achieve the singularity?

Only the higgs boson can save us now.

HenryBG said :

Jungle Jim said :

PantsMan said :

To be fair johnboy, I really think the Mosque should have been located somewhere a bit more “appropriate”. Like Red Hill, Forrest, or Yarralumla.

What the hell would make one suburb more “appropriate” for a mosque than another??

It’s a place of worship, not a bloody prison or brothel or something that needs to be located away from suburbia.

Yeah, except for the thuggery and violence which has occurred in the past at the Yarralumla mosque….

You won’t catch too many white people going for walks on the street near the Lakemba Mosque on a Friday anymore, either…..shame social uncohesion has been promoted over assimilation by the dim apologist lefties.

OMG THE MUSLIMS ARE GONNA KILL US ALL WITH THEIR SHARIA LAW

Jungle Jim said :

PantsMan said :

To be fair johnboy, I really think the Mosque should have been located somewhere a bit more “appropriate”. Like Red Hill, Forrest, or Yarralumla.

What the hell would make one suburb more “appropriate” for a mosque than another??

It’s a place of worship, not a bloody prison or brothel or something that needs to be located away from suburbia.

Yeah, except for the thuggery and violence which has occurred in the past at the Yarralumla mosque….

You won’t catch too many white people going for walks on the street near the Lakemba Mosque on a Friday anymore, either…..shame social uncohesion has been promoted over assimilation by the dim apologist lefties.

PantsMan said :

To be fair johnboy, I really think the Mosque should have been located somewhere a bit more “appropriate”. Like Red Hill, Forrest, or Yarralumla.

What the hell would make one suburb more “appropriate” for a mosque than another??

It’s a place of worship, not a bloody prison or brothel or something that needs to be located away from suburbia.

Surely an honourable mention should go to HenryBG and Miz for their valiant depiction of all Muslims as ‘living in the dark age’ and being tacitly complicit in the actions of Islamic extremists because ‘they don’t complain about extremists enough’.

Bold stuff.

PantsMan said :

To be fair johnboy, I really think the Mosque should have been located somewhere a bit more “appropriate”. Like Red Hill, Forrest, or Yarralumla.

Classic riot-act, shoot from the hip. Why bother checking first?

To be fair johnboy, I really think the Mosque should have been located somewhere a bit more “appropriate”. Like Red Hill, Forrest, or Yarralumla.

There’s already a mosque in Yarralumla. Really killed the real estate values didn’t it?

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