Another tilt at the windmill of pay parking in the parliamentary zone

johnboy 30 July 2009 69

[First filed: July 29, 2009 @ 08:42]

The Canberra Times brings the happy news that a “joint taskforce” of the National Capital Authority and the ACT Government (what a meeting of great minds that must be) is having another go at working through the issues of getting paid parking going in the green and leafy environs of Parliament House.

    The National Capital Authority confirmed yesterday it would chair an inter-governmental committee to review parking in the Parliamentary Zone as well as Barton and Russell, where tens of thousands of Commonwealth public servants currently park for free.

    ”The committee will develop options for managing parking on national land, taking into account the special needs of visitors and volunteers,” NCA chief executive Gary Rake said.

The wily procedural warriors who currently enjoy the free parking have quietly killed off every previous effort. Representing significantly more accomplished individuals than anything the NCA or ACT Government have to offer.

Allocated free spaces for everyone higher than EL1 might just crack it though.

UPDATED: Gary Humphries has come out with all guns blazing declaring this paid parking will come in “OVER MY DEAD BODY“.

And then, perhaps demonstrating considerable faith in the ongoing misery of the ACT’s public transport system, Gary finished with this:

    “My message to Jon Stanhope is this: fix the buses, then we’ll talk about paid parking!”

Senator Humphries has gone so far as to start a petition.


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Tembo Tembo 6:13 pm 08 Aug 13

Parking solution for issues at Barton? – it’s possible!!!!

Intelligent Parking System:
http://www.japanretailnews.com/2/post/2008/03/parking-systems-in-japan.html

CraigT CraigT 2:33 pm 21 Jul 13

magiccar9 said :

Has anyone considered that the Triangle isn’t just made up of Public Servants? There are a hell of a lot of private industry offices and workplaces there too. They get paid considerable less than the PS counterparts, but are still expected to fork out just as much in FBT and paid parking….
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I guess they can catch the bus if they can’t afford the parking.

And maybe – revolutionary idea – building developments should be required to include provision for parking so that these “private industry offices” stop relying on public land for their staff’s parking wants.

magiccar9 magiccar9 9:38 am 21 Jul 13

Has anyone considered that the Triangle isn’t just made up of Public Servants? There are a hell of a lot of private industry offices and workplaces there too. They get paid considerable less than the PS counterparts, but are still expected to fork out just as much in FBT and paid parking…. They’re offered very little in terms of available parking and are forced to find whatever they can elsewhere.

As previously stated – the argument of “everyone else has to” isn’t valid. Everyone else, eg. Woden, Civic, Belconnen, have regular bus services to a nearby interchange. They also have amenities to service the workers. Also, the argument that Sydney and Melbourne pay more is comparing apples to oranges. They have a (mostly) functional public transport system compared to ACTION and various other modes or transport around their cities.

This is clearly just another Federal Government stab at trying to recoup their extreme budget deficit. If it wasn’t why wouldn’t the money stay local, and also be implemented through a plan that was thought out? Instead it was just a knee jerk reaction to try and cover up other problems.

jazsam jazsam 5:53 pm 20 Jul 13

AAMC said :

jazsam said :

Bring on pay parking, I’m sick of trying to find a loading zone without some knucklehead public servent with a ute occupying it all day.

How is paid parking going to help? Wont it just that encourage more public servants to buy utes and park in free loading zones? Especially now that you have pointed it out to them.

It’ll help by bringing in parking inspectors, mention the words parking inspector in any gov building and stand back or be crushed. 🙂

Tembo Tembo 2:35 pm 20 Jul 13

In the cases where the proposed paid parking is unnecessary, people will always have the motivation to fight for better solutions and petitions to be heard (http://www.gopetition.com.au/petitions/canberrans-against-paid-parking-in-the-parliamentary-triangle.html )

Matt69 Matt69 8:43 pm 18 Jul 13

indigoid said :

I love being a motorcyclist! Free parking pretty much everywhere, and it is always quite close to where I want to be, too, and easily accessible. I truly relish the smug, gloating, pitiless look I can give car drivers struggling for a park in their Falcodores and urban terrorist 4WD vehicles. 🙂

If you work 9-5 at Russell (I don’t, but my SO does) you can apparently shave 10-15 minutes off each end of your working day by riding a bike instead of driving a car. Park directly outside your building, instead of what is locally known as Siberia…

TBH I haven’t had a need to park my bike at APH yet. Is there good motorcycle parking there?

You know you come across as a real wanker when you publicly gloat and call 4wd drivers urban terrorists in the same post.

AAMC AAMC 4:43 pm 18 Jul 13

jazsam said :

Bring on pay parking, I’m sick of trying to find a loading zone without some knucklehead public servent with a ute occupying it all day.

How is paid parking going to help? Wont it just that encourage more public servants to buy utes and park in free loading zones? Especially now that you have pointed it out to them.

jazsam jazsam 2:55 pm 18 Jul 13

Bring on pay parking, I’m sick of trying to find a loading zone without some knucklehead public servent with a ute occupying it all day.

AAMC AAMC 1:33 pm 18 Jul 13

How about some free car parks at some of the empty space around the lake (Yarramundi reach, Western Park, black mountain peninsula, Molonglo reach and Molonglo river) with and a free ferry running a loop around LBG. Could be paid for by paid parking in the triangle itself and also be a tourist resource.

Tembo Tembo 12:59 pm 18 Jul 13

Clown Killer said :

…visiting the Capitals institutions (National Gallery, High Court, National Portrait Gallery National Science Centre, National Library, National Archives and the Parliament Houses). Some of these car parks have put in place mechanisms to stop public servants filling up the car parks and inconveniencing visitors (they only open at 10.00am or you have to validate you ticket inside the relevant institution etc)…

#49 is spot on and movie theatres have this system too!

Dedicate a small number of PAID parking spaces for tourists in premium spots next to bonafide attractions (ie not offices). Charge a premium for parking in those premium spots, but refunded/discounted for genuine tourists who validate their ticket(s) at the attractions where they park or at the Visitor Information Centre (Northbourne Ave). Leave all the other spaces as free parking – an incentive for commuters to park further away.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 1:22 pm 05 Aug 09

wednesday said :

re VY, Axe Man

Fair enough. I was thinking that being able to park for free next to your workplace isn’t a right, and I wouldn’t expect it going into any job. But I guess in this situation you have precedent.

Also, we don’t have any trouble catching buses daily into Barton — especially the xpressos. ACTION might not be the greatest bus service in the world, and obviously doesn’t satisfy many people, but it’s good enough for us.

As an individual, good bus services are terrific. When you drop a wife at work and child at pre-school on the way (and pick them up on the way home) it’s not so viable…

ant ant 12:57 pm 05 Aug 09

Seems apathy is dogging Mr Humphries’ best efforts to defend us against the ACT government; the petition he started (which is to the federal parliament) only has 46 signatures so-far:
http://www.gopetition.com.au/petitions/canberrans-against-paid-parking-in-the-parliamentary-triangle.html

dare2dream dare2dream 12:35 am 04 Aug 09

Maybe more people will car pool – one person, one car, one carspace – it is an extravagant misuse of resources.

Thumper Thumper 8:28 am 31 Jul 09

We could have giant floating carparks?

Postalgeek Postalgeek 11:20 pm 30 Jul 09

If they drain the lake there would be enough parking places for everyone. It angers me that water huggers insist on keeping it.

bigred bigred 9:04 pm 30 Jul 09

FFS, you store your unused car, you pay. Simple really. Get over it.

caf caf 2:58 pm 30 Jul 09

The parking fees paid in Canberra aren’t anything like “equivalent” to Sydney, where it’s about $35/day. This is not Sydney, but it is not Dubbo either.

miz miz 2:34 pm 30 Jul 09

Go Gazza, I say – he is right about the buses. This conversation SHOULD be about why ACT govt slugs people so hard for parking. This is not Sydney, and we should not be paying equivalent parking fees. What’s next, a toll on Commonwealth Ave Bridge?

ant ant 1:19 pm 30 Jul 09

Having Realm with its public pay park changes things a bit. Other buidings have pay parking underneath for staff of tenants, and some tenants pay the parking and charge the staff (through their salaries etc).

Plans are afoot to build DFAT a new high-rise carpark out the front, between the front of their building and the moth paddock, that will be a commercial project and presumably the operators will charge users in some way.

One of the dirt carparks (used by Austrade and Communications) will soon disappear as Finance have sold the block on the corner of National cct and Canberra Ave for a new building to go up.

As I tootle along in the heavy traffic coming into Canberra every day from the east, I wonder if this stream of workers is the elephant in the living room, or are they the bus-less group who will be paying for the car parking.

wednesday wednesday 12:18 pm 30 Jul 09

re VY, Axe Man

Fair enough. I was thinking that being able to park for free next to your workplace isn’t a right, and I wouldn’t expect it going into any job. But I guess in this situation you have precedent.

Also, we don’t have any trouble catching buses daily into Barton — especially the xpressos. ACTION might not be the greatest bus service in the world, and obviously doesn’t satisfy many people, but it’s good enough for us.

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