Another tilt at the windmill of pay parking in the parliamentary zone

johnboy 30 July 2009 69

[First filed: July 29, 2009 @ 08:42]

The Canberra Times brings the happy news that a “joint taskforce” of the National Capital Authority and the ACT Government (what a meeting of great minds that must be) is having another go at working through the issues of getting paid parking going in the green and leafy environs of Parliament House.

    The National Capital Authority confirmed yesterday it would chair an inter-governmental committee to review parking in the Parliamentary Zone as well as Barton and Russell, where tens of thousands of Commonwealth public servants currently park for free.

    ”The committee will develop options for managing parking on national land, taking into account the special needs of visitors and volunteers,” NCA chief executive Gary Rake said.

The wily procedural warriors who currently enjoy the free parking have quietly killed off every previous effort. Representing significantly more accomplished individuals than anything the NCA or ACT Government have to offer.

Allocated free spaces for everyone higher than EL1 might just crack it though.

UPDATED: Gary Humphries has come out with all guns blazing declaring this paid parking will come in “OVER MY DEAD BODY“.

And then, perhaps demonstrating considerable faith in the ongoing misery of the ACT’s public transport system, Gary finished with this:

    “My message to Jon Stanhope is this: fix the buses, then we’ll talk about paid parking!”

Senator Humphries has gone so far as to start a petition.


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Pandy Pandy 8:50 am 29 Jul 09

EL2’s in many departments already get an allocated berth. Sure they pay for it. But hey, are they not human like the rest of us and also have to drop of kids etc and then have to fight for a park?

If the Government continues to insist that new buildings in the Traingle have to provide some parking (looks they are not guaranteeing this) and the parks are then balloted to the employees taking into consideration shift workers, than I don’t have a problem with paid parking. Everyone gets a chance to get a space. Oh better public transport is also a must too.

Anyone who complains about being forced to pay for paid parking gets no sympathy from me.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 8:56 am 29 Jul 09

Why do we need pay parking at all?

Pandy Pandy 8:59 am 29 Jul 09

Because everyone else has to pay.

realityskin realityskin 9:00 am 29 Jul 09

It is actually in DFATS CA that employees get free parking.

arescarti42 arescarti42 9:01 am 29 Jul 09

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

Why do we need pay parking at all?

Some would say it is because the ACT Government enjoys the revenue, others would say it is an effective way of managing the demand for parking (i.e. if it were free, demand would outstrip supply).

The truth probably lies somewhere in between.

PBO PBO 9:12 am 29 Jul 09

Just another example of our local government trying to milk all it can from the federal government. Local government trying to charge people for parking on federal land does not seem right to me.

Thumper Thumper 9:13 am 29 Jul 09

+1 for VY’s comment and PBO’s as well.

Pandy Pandy 9:19 am 29 Jul 09

The truth would be that the Federal government would get proabaly get a 50% cut. Lets not forget that parking in Belconnen near and on the government buildings is in many cases on Federal land. Guess what folks, you pay.

DFATS might have free parking, but the department cannot escape the FBT. In some Departments, the employee pays for the FBT and gets a rostered car park. Seems fair to me.

PigDog PigDog 9:22 am 29 Jul 09

realityskin said :

It is actually in DFATS CA that employees get free parking.

Where does it say that?
http://www.dfat.gov.au/dept/ca_2009/DFAT_CA_2009-10.pdf

neanderthalsis neanderthalsis 9:55 am 29 Jul 09

So what happens to tourists visiting our national attractions such as the NGA, OPH, APH, National Science Centre and the National Library? Will they have to pay?

Parking in Barton is a bit of a nightmare. Even with DAFF gone it still seems like you need to be here by 7:30 to get a park. I’m lucky in that I have an allocated basement carpark and don’t have to fight for a spot on Macquarie st or the horrid mud puddle on Blackall.

housebound housebound 10:03 am 29 Jul 09

Bring it on, I say. We desperately need short-stay parking that is properly policed. Pay parking is the only way I can see that it could happen. It is currently very difficult when you have a 1-hour meeting.

By the way, our local politicians also don’t pay for parking. How about some real pay parking equity?

indigoid indigoid 10:24 am 29 Jul 09

I love being a motorcyclist! Free parking pretty much everywhere, and it is always quite close to where I want to be, too, and easily accessible. I truly relish the smug, gloating, pitiless look I can give car drivers struggling for a park in their Falcodores and urban terrorist 4WD vehicles. 🙂

If you work 9-5 at Russell (I don’t, but my SO does) you can apparently shave 10-15 minutes off each end of your working day by riding a bike instead of driving a car. Park directly outside your building, instead of what is locally known as Siberia…

TBH I haven’t had a need to park my bike at APH yet. Is there good motorcycle parking there?

johnboy johnboy 10:25 am 29 Jul 09

Well, local politicians don’t pay for their cars either, so it all works out!

dr phil dr phil 10:48 am 29 Jul 09

HAHA!

ant ant 12:16 pm 29 Jul 09

DFAT aren’t actually in the Parliamentary Triangle, although I think they’ve got some other definition which is larger, a precinct. Either way, when they start building the Climate Change building on their carpark, things will get interesting.

A question though, if pay parking is introduced, then that surely will change the FBT situation for all departments, and Parliament House, too? Where there’s no pay parking it shoudl be fairly simple for those departments who have special places for the SES people, but once there is pay parking, they’ll have to salary package these peoples’ parking payments or cop the liability?

ant ant 12:20 pm 29 Jul 09

neanderthalsis said :

Parking in Barton is a bit of a nightmare. Even with DAFF gone it still seems like you need to be here by 7:30 to get a park. I’m lucky in that I have an allocated basement carpark and don’t have to fight for a spot on Macquarie st or the horrid mud puddle on Blackall.

DAFF going certainly freed things up for the JGB, when the cops move in things will get very fraught. I’ve noticed the mud puddle in the Carpark of Shame getting bigger and bigger, and fewer cars dare to take it on. But the long gravel park behind PM&C stays parkable for a lot longer than it used ot.

Must say, I’m rather enjoying basement parking too, with my own spot and everything! I don’t mind paying for the delightful convenience and I never need get my shoes wet.

zig zig 12:25 pm 29 Jul 09

PBO said :

Just another example of our local government trying to milk all it can from the federal government. Local government trying to charge people for parking on federal land does not seem right to me.

Yet Local Government is expected to fund and provide services to/on federal government land?

Why should the public servants be exempt from paying parking that the rest of Canberra has to pay? After all, the majority of public servants are Canberra residents and utilise it’s infrastructure.

ChrisinTurner ChrisinTurner 12:26 pm 29 Jul 09

How can we fix the buses when the federal government provides free parking and doesn’t even pay Fringe Benefit Taxes. Try finding free parking in any other capital city.

As a regular visitor to our National Attractions I would happily pay for short-term parking if there was any. The ACT wants to attract visitors but doesn’t provide any parking.

Thumper Thumper 12:36 pm 29 Jul 09

“My message to Jon Stanhope is this: fix the buses, then we’ll talk about paid parking!”

Gaz may be largely irrelevant but this time he hit the nail on the head.

can’t wait to hear the spluttering indignation from the chiefly one.

mooo_cow mooo_cow 1:30 pm 29 Jul 09

Pandy said :

The truth would be that the Federal government would get proabaly get a 50% cut. Lets not forget that parking in Belconnen near and on the government buildings is in many cases on Federal land. Guess what folks, you pay.

DFATS might have free parking, but the department cannot escape the FBT. In some Departments, the employee pays for the FBT and gets a rostered car park. Seems fair to me.

I don’t know if this is true but I have hard that Commonwealth Employers do not have to report on FBT of less than $2000, and employees are allowed up to $2000 in FB before they have to start paying tax. Normally the employers don’t want to do any extra paper work for the ATO so they only charge their staff no more than $36 a week, (taken out of Gross), so it ends up costing an EL2 around $17 a week to park.

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