7 March 2009

Another University for Canberra

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CIT have announced that they’ve done a deal with Charles Sturt University to offer degree courses here in Canberra:

    The agreement will allow CIT students to gain qualifications beyond their studies at CIT to access higher education courses, such as gaining access to Charles Sturt University’s wide choice of degrees, including distance education courses.

    For Charles Sturt University students, they will gain access to unique CIT offerings, as well as helping the ACT community increase its overall level of higher qualifications to provide a bigger pool of professionals locally.

For a town of 350,000 we’re not short of higher learning.

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Long before it was ACU, Signadou wasn’t a campus but a self-contained college training substandard teachers who could only be employed in the Catholic education sector … Sorry, but the bad reputation sticks for many of us!

Thank you for that, I-filed; I wasn’t aware of a reputation problem stemming from the Signadou Teacher’s College. Was it any worse than other teachers colleges of that era? Were you a gradaute, too?

Now, of course, ACU at Signadou is more diversified, with Early Childhood Education, Secondary Education, Social Work, Nursing, and Theology courses, as well as the original Primary Education course.

Pommy bastard1:43 pm 09 Mar 09

astrojax said :

what do you mean, exbikkie?? what does ‘granting’ (shh, no need to yell it) mean, if not that people who complete their studies in a stated ‘degree’ course at an institution and at the end, if they are successful, that institution gives them a document that says, ‘well done on you, here, have a degree’..?

pleeze expline…

Several places, which are not Universities, offer degree courses, but the degree would be validated and awarded by an overseeing University.

canberraflybe1:40 pm 09 Mar 09

This is one of the problems with corporatisation of the university sector. Let’s hope it doesn’t dilute the standard people expect from our local universities.

what do you mean, exbikkie?? what does ‘granting’ (shh, no need to yell it) mean, if not that people who complete their studies in a stated ‘degree’ course at an institution and at the end, if they are successful, that institution gives them a document that says, ‘well done on you, here, have a degree’..?

pleeze expline…

nanzan said :

So, then, how exactly does one define a university these days?

That is simple they have the word university in their name. For example:
-Australian Catholic University
-University of Canberra
-Charles Sturt University
-University of New South Wales
etc.etc.
Canberra Institute of Technology does not have university in the title and as such is not classified as one

nanzan said :

I-filed said :

And Signadou College can’t possibly count if CIT doesn’t. I have a colleague who will not admit to holding a “degree” from that august establishment …

Signadou is a campus, not a college, of Australian Catholic University. Signadou is ACU’s smallest campus, but ACU is, after all, Australia’s biggest university in terms of student numbers.

I have an MA from ACU – completed through the Signadou campus, and have no reason to be shy in telling people so! Smaller campuses can often provide surprisingly good learning environments.

Long before it was ACU, Signadou wasn’t a campus but a self-contained college training substandard teachers who could only be employed in the Catholic education sector … Sorry, but the bad reputation sticks for many of us!

Stick with nanzan … CIT is not a degree GRANTING establishment.

ChrisinTurner11:00 pm 08 Mar 09

It isn’t just universities. Can anyone explain why Belconnen now has five high schools?

astrojax said :

and the design school at CiT has degree courses, so if we are counting ‘universities’ as anything that gives away degrees, then it’s eight:

7. CiT
8. the internet

Yes, I stand corrected about degrees at CIT. And I believe one can complete degree programs through the Australian Defence Studies College in Weston too. But, these aren’t actually universities, are they?

So, then, how exactly does one define a university these days?

I-filed said :

And Signadou College can’t possibly count if CIT doesn’t. I have a colleague who will not admit to holding a “degree” from that august establishment …

Signadou is a campus, not a college, of Australian Catholic University. Signadou is ACU’s smallest campus, but ACU is, after all, Australia’s biggest university in terms of student numbers.

I have an MA from ACU – completed through the Signadou campus, and have no reason to be shy in telling people so! Smaller campuses can often provide surprisingly good learning environments.

And Signadou College can’t possibly count if CIT doesn’t. I have a colleague who will not admit to holding a “degree” from that august establishment …

and the design school at CiT has degree courses, so if we are counting ‘universities’ as anything that gives away degrees, then it’s eight:

7. CiT
8. the internet

CIT already has degree programs.

After leaving Year 12 in 2001 I started a degree in Forensic Investigation at the Bruce Campus.

Nothing new here.

It is not a commonly-known fact, but Canberra has 6 universities (and this is good for those Canberra-based trivia nights, bbqs, work-place quizzes etc). Here are the initials, folks:

1. ANU (Acton)
2. UC (Bruce)
3. ACU (Watson)
4. ADFA (Campbell)
5. CSU (Barton)
6. AIHS (Barton)

CIT of course is also a tertiary institution, but not a degree-granting one.

Gungahlin Al4:20 pm 07 Mar 09

CSU already has a small presence actually – theology studies over opposite the old DAFF building. It’s a good uni (mine actually) but I have to ask why the CIT couldn’t be forging better links with the two Canberra unis instead (or as well)?

One of the things I’ve been trying to pursue for the Gungahlin College is that its curriculum should create strong feeders into the sorts of courses that our local unis excel at – earth and physical sciences, business, governance, and many more.

As a parent I want to increase the chances of my children attending uni locally, and thereby remove all the stress and overheads of having to live away from home, so they can focus on the study instead of trying to make ends meet (even if it means another few years before we can kick them out of the nest). You know it makes sense…

And given the CIT will have an outpost embedded in the Gungahlin College campus, I have to wonder what impact that will have on this goal.

It’ll bring in more fob students

The public service has to blow its training budget somewhere…

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