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ANU student booted out for religious chants?

fhakk 22 August 2007 60

Anyone know something about this? It claims it was a Muslim at the Law School. No bloody wonder the ANU’s refusing to comment about it.


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Mr Evil 11:37 am 23 Aug 07

“Christians just blow up government buildings in down town Oklahoma in the name of Jesus”

I wasn’t aware that Timothy was a Christian: I thought he was just another paranoid, angry young redneck.

Thumper 11:32 am 23 Aug 07

It’s still not a valid argument.

But yes, any radical group has the potential to be dangerous.

S4anta 11:29 am 23 Aug 07

Read this, and buy this before continuiing wuth debate please.

Fixing linky things

S4anta 11:29 am 23 Aug 07

a href=”http://faculty.ncwc.edu/TOCONNOR/429/429lect13.htm”>Read this, and this. It should clear a bit of the ambiguity that seems to be polluting some minds.

asp 11:24 am 23 Aug 07

“And Law likes to think that their students are the “elite of The Australian National University”!!!!”

Who said elite people have to be sane.
Here’s the proof:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc

mattress 11:17 am 23 Aug 07

So what? It has nothing to do with the issue.

It has to do with earlier comments that only muslims are terrorists. Christians get a bit uncomfortable when you point out to them that there are just as many nut-bags advocating violence in the name of their religion as others

The question I have, is that if he was chanting AND doing the actions, did the carpet actually take off?

Thumper 10:56 am 23 Aug 07

Well, the Germans had invaded Poland, and were setting sight on the UK, France, etc etc etc…

And, I love how this sort point is used as an arguement

“Christians just blow up government buildings in down town Oklahoma in the name of Jesus”

So what? It has nothing to do with the issue.

Ralph 10:46 am 23 Aug 07

Well following that logic Mael, we should never have fought the Germans either.

mattress 10:36 am 23 Aug 07

Last time I checked Christians weren’t flying planes into buildings, planning Caliphate’s, declaring fatwas on the west, beheading western hostages etc.

No, Christians just blow up government buildings in down town Oklahoma in the name of Jesus

Maelinar 9:48 am 23 Aug 07

Actually Ralph, I was quite happy leaving Iraq in the hands of a malevolent dictator.

If sufficient Iraqi’s had a problem with him, they had every right to oust him all on their very own. There was no requirement for anybody that is a non-Iraqi to get involved at all.

This is a professional military opinion, given to you by an ex-member of the military.

Mr Evil 9:42 am 23 Aug 07

I’d heard that he was making his little political statements during the Australian Constitutional Law lectures – can anyone confirm?

Hopefully he’ll continue to act like a tool and then we can get rid of him altogether.

And Law likes to think that their students are the “elite of The Australian National University”!!!!

chester 9:21 am 23 Aug 07

CWNA if you want to make racist comments, don’t associate my screen name with them. OK jerk?

Secondly, it sounds like the ANU is at least following the disciplinary procedures in this matter (although I have to question the publication of the guy’s name here). In my case, CIT followed no procedures whatsoever and appear to have built a case based on fraud. Something they have done to other students and staff before me and are no doubt continuing to do as a result of the various pollies obsessive desire to cover up their complicity in the matter.

Either avail yourself of the facts, or shut-the-f@*k-up. And there’s plenty of documents on line as you can see. If you think that doesn’t provide evidence their treatment of me was suss as all get out, I got lots more. But if you need more convincing, I’d have to wonder if you aren’t delusional.

ccraven.blogspot.com

Fortunately CWNA, it’s not the opinion of ignoramuses like you that matter.

Thumper 9:18 am 23 Aug 07

Kramer,

I don’t care if the guy was a raelian.

he was disruptive.

The ANU did the right thing.

Kramer 8:30 am 23 Aug 07

“The guy is a muslim, he was yelling out radical muslim statements.”

Now his muslim statements have become radical muslim statements. When do religious statements become radical? Was he busting a 720 on a half pipe at the time??

Ralph 8:26 am 23 Aug 07

Christians leaders invade Iraq

Ohhh so you would’ve been happy then to have the Iraqis continue to be ruled by a malevolent dictator?

but to bandy around assumptions such as Fanatic, terrorist and mentally ill is inappropriate and ignorant.

My mistake, it’s ‘diversity’.

Thumper 8:00 am 23 Aug 07

The guy is a muslim, he was yelling out radical muslim statements.

That is a fact.

The ANU did the correct thing to boot him out as he was being disruptive and unsettling to other students.

It is not a christian v muslim or west v east situation so why everyone is making it so is beyond me.

damnintellectuals 4:57 am 23 Aug 07

“Last time I checked Christians weren’t flying planes into buildings, planning Caliphate’s, declaring fatwas on the west, beheading western hostages etc.”

Nah, Christians leaders invade Iraq, curb civil rights and deny global warming.

Leeroy 2:50 am 23 Aug 07

How did anyone come to the conclusion Willy suffers from a mental illness?
Inappropriate expression of religious ideology does not = fanaticism which in turn does not = mental instability. What it does suggest is the personal interpretation of certain religious fundamental principals may be taken out of context or projected in a manner which is ignorant to other society’s cultures or religious beliefs/dogma.
Everyone has their own opinions on terrorism, religion and social values.
Willy may be out of line.. But to suggest he is sick is reckless and an insult to Willy and other practising Muslims who may just be trying to be the best possible person/disciple they can under different circumstances/influences.
I am not for 1 iota of a second condoning Religious zealots or fanaticism to the point of terrorism but what I am suggesting as Deadmandrinking has previously stated is that people interpret things differently and without proper guidance we can all make mistakes.
The ANU obviously took the correct course of action with Willey under the circumstances but to bandy around assumptions such as Fanatic, terrorist and mentally ill is inappropriate and ignorant.
As it has already been suggested you have to have some degree of intelligence to participating in a Law course at ANU and I Hope you address your issues soon Willy and find some semblance of equilibrium between your religious convictions and your career aspirations.

Deadmandrinking 12:09 am 23 Aug 07

May I take my cue, Ralph. Honestly (and this is to barking toad now) I think people are as sick of hearing about the bible’s ‘stonings for working on sunday’ as they are of hearing the Alcohol vs. Weed arguments in drug legalization debates.
The fact of the matter is, the doctrines for all major religions (bar scientology – debate it’s status as a religeon all you like) were written thousands of years ago in more primitive times. Also, all religions tend to have different groups within their believers that interpret their doctrine in different ways. Do Protestants rub shoulders with Jehovah’s Witnesses often? How about Mormons and Catholics? It sounds about as realistic as moderate muslims getting together with the likes of the Taliban and Al Qaeda.
But that’s not really the subject here. The ANU did the right thing and hopefully this young man (whom I assume is otherwise bright) will get a hold of himself and be able to finish his degree and go on to be successful career-wise and content spiritually-wise.
The fact that he is a Muslim is irrelevant – all kinds of religions and belief-systems have been twisted to benefit totalitarians. Darwin/Hitler anyone?

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