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Are you really so vacuous as to change your vote over plastic bags? [With Poll]

By johnboy 6 August 2012 68

It started with the Canberra Liberals having a mumble to the Canberra Times about wanting to see the review of the plastic bag ban before the election.

But then the seething fury of all Canberra’s angry old men lifted them up like a raging tide and we now have a media release promising a complete overturn of the plastic bag ban if elected.

ACT Opposition Leader Zed Seselja today announced that if elected, a Canberra Liberals Government will overturn the ACT Labor/Greens Coalition’s plastic bag ban. Mr Seselja said today’s announcement will give choice back to businesses and consumers.

Now for mine sure it was another embuggerance in this vale of tears achieving not very much at all. But does that 10c at the supermarket or remembering to take a bag with me make any real difference in my life? Not really.

Does this issue really matter to you?

The plastic bag ban

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UPDATE 06/08/12 13:55: Simon Corbell is expressing some surprise at Zed’s position considering how mad keen Vicki Dunne has been on banning plastic bags in the past.

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HenryBG 6:33 pm 09 Aug 12

Pork Hunt said :

c_c said :

Pork Hunt said :

So are you a member of your local “wildfire” brigade?

We have certain terms and terminology in Australia and wildfire is no substitute for bushfire.

There is no fire fighting organisation in Australia that incorporates the phrase ‘Bushfire Brigade’ in their name.

NSW Rural Fire Service
Country Fire Authority
Country Fire Service
Tasmanian Fire Service
ACT Rural Fire Service
NT Fire and Rescue
Qld Fire and Rescue

Even the Fire Brigades disagree with you:

For example, one component of the NSW RFS Crew Leader training is ‘Crew Leader Wildfire’ – which includes the competencies: ‘Suppress Wildfire’ and ‘Suppress Urban Fire’

A Group Leader then receives further training in ‘Advanced wildfire behaviour’ and ‘Advanced wildfire suppression’

Well who the hell changed all that before seeking my approval?

It’s probably caused by cultural cringe experienced during winter stints working in California – they go over there, and Americans are so insular and thick that they don’t understand “bushfire” and when it’s explained to them, they treat us like *we*’re the ones who’re dumb for saying something *they* are too stupid to understand.

Aussie firefighters should be proud of their country, their culture, and their language and not bow down to Yankee cultural imperialism.

Pork Hunt 5:35 pm 09 Aug 12

c_c said :

Pork Hunt said :

So are you a member of your local “wildfire” brigade?

We have certain terms and terminology in Australia and wildfire is no substitute for bushfire.

There is no fire fighting organisation in Australia that incorporates the phrase ‘Bushfire Brigade’ in their name.

NSW Rural Fire Service
Country Fire Authority
Country Fire Service
Tasmanian Fire Service
ACT Rural Fire Service
NT Fire and Rescue
Qld Fire and Rescue

Even the Fire Brigades disagree with you:

For example, one component of the NSW RFS Crew Leader training is ‘Crew Leader Wildfire’ – which includes the competencies: ‘Suppress Wildfire’ and ‘Suppress Urban Fire’

A Group Leader then receives further training in ‘Advanced wildfire behaviour’ and ‘Advanced wildfire suppression’

Well who the hell changed all that before seeking my approval?

Baldy 10:51 am 08 Aug 12

HenryBG said :

And according to Miranda Devine in today’s Daily Telegraph,

[i]”The results in South Australia show the ban there may actually have caused worse pollution. Clean Up Australia Day last year found people were dumping more plastic bags on the state than they did the previous year. Even worse, they are now dumping the reusable imported Chinese-made heavy gauge “green” bags _ which Peter Garrett used to call “canvas” but which are really made of another type of plastic, polypropylene.
Each one equates to 1000 polyethylene bags and, unlike the old bags, they cannot be recycled easily.
In fact, the old bags may even be eco-friendly in solid landfill, according to a 2006 cost-benefit analysis by the Productivity Commission, because of their “stabilising qualities, leachate minimisation and minimising (of) greenhouse-gas emissions”.
What’s more, since most of us recycle supermarket plastic bags as bin liners, lunch bags, footy-boot carriers and dog-poo holders, we will just have to buy more expensive plastic bags to do the same job.
Lo and behold, when South Australia banned plastic bags in 2009, the sale of Glad plastic bin liners in the state went through the roof to double the national average.”[/i]

In the current environment where the rightards will manufacture any opportunity to further their money-grubbing rape of the planet, I’d say the last thing we need are “environmental” laws which are not evidence-based and are instead based on pure ideology to satisfy the pseudo-Green communists’ lust for compulsion over their fellow-citizens.

Heh! Someone actually quote Miranda Devine as a reputable source of information.

c_c 5:21 pm 07 Aug 12

milkman said :

Once again, throwing mud at the local Libs doesn’t help you. I’m not a fan of the local libs!! I even said they were no better previously! But none of this changes the fact that local Labor have done a crap job.

There’s a lot of writing out there about how political parties rely on three things:

1. Voters won’t listen to fact when it goes against their own existing bias

2. Voters have piddling attention spans

3. Voters have shocking memory

I guess they’re very right.

davo101 11:13 am 07 Aug 12

bundah said :

More importantly why is Mr.G (MIA)?

Victory lap?

Thumper 10:28 am 07 Aug 12

bundah said :

Wtf does it matter whether it’s bushfire or wildfire got to do with the vacuous who gives a fcuk soooo important that it’s vote changing debate on plastic bags?? More importantly why is Mr.G (MIA)?

As I have previously noted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnzHtm1jhL4

bundah 9:50 am 07 Aug 12

Wtf does it matter whether it’s bushfire or wildfire got to do with the vacuous who gives a fcuk soooo important that it’s vote changing debate on plastic bags?? More importantly why is Mr.G (MIA)?

davo101 9:45 am 07 Aug 12

rhino said :

Whichever saves me time overall.

Have you thought about ordering your groceries on-line? Would save a lot of time as you don’t have to drive to the supermarket, park, collect you items, checkout, drive home.

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