Skip to content Skip to main navigation

Opinion

Expert strata, facilities & building management services

At what cost do we can summernats.

By Coggo 5 January 2013 75

Seems there is an ever increasing crime rate for the weekend of summernats.

At what point do we say no, and at what point do we start claiming for our share of the profits to fix all the property damage cause by interstate guests.

Just this morning I witnessed fireworks being let off at 1:30am in a grass paddock at the caravan park in Watson. Police arrived but drove around and didn’t even get out of their car… probably due to being out numbered 500 to 1… and on a 36+ degree day in the middle of a heat wave, that’s not asking for a bushfire at all.

How long do we have to put up with this stupid excuse for people to act brain dead so close to a largely populated area?

I thinks it’s time to move it out of EPIC and find a much more appropriate area.

Any thoughts welcome.

Tags

What’s Your opinion?


Please login to post your comments, or connect with
75 Responses to
At what cost do we can summernats.
Filter
Showing only Website comments
Order
Newest to Oldest
Oldest to Newst
CoffinRX2 11:55 am 08 Jan 13

NoImRight said :

Im neither for nor against the Nats. I live on the Southside so Im not affected by the much claimed hoons and vandalism of varying levels. I was put out a little this year as someone loading a car clearly destined for its hour of glory onto a trailer chose to do it in front of my driveway blocking me in for about 45 minutes. Apart from that though I remain angst free.

The main tedium is that every time this comes up on here its like a political debate. Both sides become more extreme and neither one is prepared to concede any ground. Im not sure why eitehr group still bothers? Those against the event will never concede it does any good whatsoever for Canberra and those for it will never concede that it does attract a lot of yobs and wannabes. Some of them probably do then try to emulate their “heroes” on various streets. They do it most other times of the year so why not when they are particularly excited in their confined minds? Can you blame Nats for that?

Im certainly for the event, and happily agree that some patrons that attend arent the fine upstanding citizens everyone wishes them to be. ….. The percentages may differ, but you’ll get that with any event though

NoImRight 9:59 am 08 Jan 13

Im neither for nor against the Nats. I live on the Southside so Im not affected by the much claimed hoons and vandalism of varying levels. I was put out a little this year as someone loading a car clearly destined for its hour of glory onto a trailer chose to do it in front of my driveway blocking me in for about 45 minutes. Apart from that though I remain angst free.

The main tedium is that every time this comes up on here its like a political debate. Both sides become more extreme and neither one is prepared to concede any ground. Im not sure why eitehr group still bothers? Those against the event will never concede it does any good whatsoever for Canberra and those for it will never concede that it does attract a lot of yobs and wannabes. Some of them probably do then try to emulate their “heroes” on various streets. They do it most other times of the year so why not when they are particularly excited in their confined minds? Can you blame Nats for that?

Antagonist 9:02 am 08 Jan 13

c_c™ said :

[… The boy (and girl) racers who stick all sorts of crap on, but ironically make their car louder, slower and smoggier, stuff them. They are brain dead.

Look out. We have yet another ‘truthiness’ statement from an armchair expert who did not attend Summernats. In the old days we used to just call it bulls***. What a load of tripe.

c_c™ 10:02 pm 07 Jan 13

Northside-Guy said :

Why do you assume that if one likes highly modified motor vehicles that have been lovingly modified by their owners then they must be brain dead.

It’s not that simple. Those who actually put some thought and engineering in and make really impressive results, hey, good on them. The boy (and girl) racers who stick all sorts of crap on, but ironically make their car louder, slower and smoggier, stuff them. They are brain dead.

Girt_Hindrance 5:42 pm 07 Jan 13

CoffinRX2 said :

Girt_Hindrance said :

CoffinRX2 said :

Police were great, .. but I hope they throw the book at the Territory driver who destroyed one entrants 10 year build due to inattention yesterday

I saw a pic of that Commodore, quite a mess and hope the driver is okay, luckily it didn’t have passengers in the rear at that stage, would have been fatal…
What speed did the Territory hit it at? Not much left apart from the front seats and engine bay…

We were talking to the driver on the way into Civic on Saturday night. He was fine, but still in a bit of shock. They had passengers in the rear seat until 2 blocks previous when they got out, so very very lucky.

Wow…
Super bad luck for the owner/driver, matrix style bullet dodging for the passengers.

CoffinRX2 3:50 pm 07 Jan 13

Girt_Hindrance said :

CoffinRX2 said :

Police were great, .. but I hope they throw the book at the Territory driver who destroyed one entrants 10 year build due to inattention yesterday

I saw a pic of that Commodore, quite a mess and hope the driver is okay, luckily it didn’t have passengers in the rear at that stage, would have been fatal…
What speed did the Territory hit it at? Not much left apart from the front seats and engine bay…

We were talking to the driver on the way into Civic on Saturday night. He was fine, but still in a bit of shock. They had passengers in the rear seat until 2 blocks previous when they got out, so very very lucky.

CoffinRX2 3:49 pm 07 Jan 13

BelcoMan said :

CoffinRX2 said :

To the ignorant fool on here posting that the Govt give Andy’s company money to stage the event, isnt for tourism? Care to explain how you come to that conclusion?

More than happy to explain it for you without resorting to childish name calling.

1. The figures are Hypothetical but I think you will get the drift. The Event generates $800,000 profit for Out There productions before any financial support from the Govt. The government now gives $300,000 to OTP as part of their Event support, so OTP now show a profit for the event of $1,100,000. As OTP is a commercial, privately owned operation, the Govt has now directly contributed to the take home pay packets of the directors of OTP of which Andy Lopez is one of them.

Thankyou for finally acknowledging that you work for the event and I admire your loyalty. It is important for people to understand where you are coming from when assessing your figures that you quote.

Firstly I dont work FOR Summernats, I work for a company who attends Summernats. …. So yes the company I work for hands over money to Summernats Pty Ltd, which in turn brings in people the the event from locals to interstate patrons, of which the company I work for can engage with, and hopefully win business from.

Similar analogy can be said for the ACT Govt, .. they supply funding to OTP which brings in tourists to the Greater ACT area, who spend there money here while this place is a Ghost Town. Also remember a lot of the tourists that come to town for Summernats generally have a high level of disposable income, and they spend it here in Canberra in town.

I cant understand how you dont think thats good for Canberra?

Roundhead89 2:20 pm 07 Jan 13

Holden Caulfield said :

BelcoMan said :

To use a simple analogy, what would all the supporters say if someone proposed to bring 20,000 murderers/rapists/paedophiles to Canberra for 4 days? Surely it would be acknowledged that the benefits of having the hotels/restaurants etc all full would not outweigh the risks involved?

Time for this event to move on I think.

So close, but you failed miserably at applying Godwin’s Law. Shame on you!

This sounds a bit like those idiots who used to flood newspapers with letters in the 1980s whenever gay law reform was proposed saying “Why don’t we legalise pedophilia, murder, robbery, adultery, etc etc”. It was a silly argument and analogy 30 years ago and it is even more ridiculous now.

Holden Caulfield 1:17 pm 07 Jan 13

BelcoMan said :

To use a simple analogy, what would all the supporters say if someone proposed to bring 20,000 murderers/rapists/paedophiles to Canberra for 4 days? Surely it would be acknowledged that the benefits of having the hotels/restaurants etc all full would not outweigh the risks involved?

Time for this event to move on I think.

So close, but you failed miserably at applying Godwin’s Law. Shame on you!

RadioVK 11:07 am 07 Jan 13

JessP said :

I am not a fan of Summernats so I choose not to go, but I dont denigrate anyone who chosses to.

I understand that the MacDonalds at Mitchell (at the site of the old Shell) had its biggest trading day over the weekend….I would imagine that the petrol stations in the area, auto part suppliers, theWoolworths at Dickson and a large number of cafes and restuarants whould also experienced the same. I would also think that the camping/caravan parks and motels would have had good business for the four days. So Summernats is good for business in Canberra and brings in the dollars. How is this a problem?

I belive that the Maccas in Dickson at one stage held the Southern Hemisphere record for the greatest volume of sales in a 24hr period, and it was over a Summernats weekend. They’d open 24 hours a day for the duration of the Summernats, and this was before 24 hour opening became the norm for some sites.

chewy14 10:30 am 07 Jan 13

BelcoMan said :

CoffinRX2 said :

To the ignorant fool on here posting that the Govt give Andy’s company money to stage the event, isnt for tourism? Care to explain how you come to that conclusion?

More than happy to explain it for you without resorting to childish name calling.

1. The figures are Hypothetical but I think you will get the drift. The Event generates $800,000 profit for Out There productions before any financial support from the Govt. The government now gives $300,000 to OTP as part of their Event support, so OTP now show a profit for the event of $1,100,000. As OTP is a commercial, privately owned operation, the Govt has now directly contributed to the take home pay packets of the directors of OTP of which Andy Lopez is one of them.

Thankyou for finally acknowledging that you work for the event and I admire your loyalty. It is important for people to understand where you are coming from when assessing your figures that you quote.

What do you think the return to the territory is from increased money flowing into the ACT on what is usually an extremely quiet weekend?

Are you against government funding for any private tourist event or attraction or is it just this one?

JessP 10:15 am 07 Jan 13

I am not a fan of Summernats so I choose not to go, but I dont denigrate anyone who chosses to.

I understand that the MacDonalds at Mitchell (at the site of the old Shell) had its biggest trading day over the weekend….I would imagine that the petrol stations in the area, auto part suppliers, theWoolworths at Dickson and a large number of cafes and restuarants whould also experienced the same. I would also think that the camping/caravan parks and motels would have had good business for the four days. So Summernats is good for business in Canberra and brings in the dollars. How is this a problem?

buzz819 9:30 am 07 Jan 13

arescarti42 said :

buzz819 said :

Definition – truthiness: a quality characterising a “truth” that a person claims to know intuitively “from the gut” or because it “feels right” without regard to evidence, logic, intellectual examination, or facts.

Also a made up word by Stephen Colbert;
Truthiness is what you want the facts to be, as opposed to what the facts are. What feels like the right answer, as opposed to what reality will support.

Girt_Hindrance 10:43 pm 06 Jan 13

CoffinRX2 said :

Police were great, .. but I hope they throw the book at the Territory driver who destroyed one entrants 10 year build due to inattention yesterday

I saw a pic of that Commodore, quite a mess and hope the driver is okay, luckily it didn’t have passengers in the rear at that stage, would have been fatal…
What speed did the Territory hit it at? Not much left apart from the front seats and engine bay…

BelcoMan 10:13 pm 06 Jan 13

CoffinRX2 said :

To the ignorant fool on here posting that the Govt give Andy’s company money to stage the event, isnt for tourism? Care to explain how you come to that conclusion?

More than happy to explain it for you without resorting to childish name calling.

1. The figures are Hypothetical but I think you will get the drift. The Event generates $800,000 profit for Out There productions before any financial support from the Govt. The government now gives $300,000 to OTP as part of their Event support, so OTP now show a profit for the event of $1,100,000. As OTP is a commercial, privately owned operation, the Govt has now directly contributed to the take home pay packets of the directors of OTP of which Andy Lopez is one of them.

Thankyou for finally acknowledging that you work for the event and I admire your loyalty. It is important for people to understand where you are coming from when assessing your figures that you quote.

Related Articles

CBR Tweets

Sign up to our newsletter

Top
Copyright © 2018 Riot ACT Holdings Pty Ltd. All rights reserved.
the-riotact.com | aboutregional.com.au | b2bmagazine.com.au | thisiscanberra.com

Search across the site