Attempted suicide in Isabella Plains standoff with Police

Cameron 5 August 2008 86

ABC is reporting that there was a police standoff with a man in a vehicle on Isabella Dr.

It ended with the man shooting himself. He is now in Canberra Hospital.

Story here.

UPDATED: The police statement is in the latest police wrap.

ANOTHER UPDATE: Police now reporting that he expired this morning.


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Bungle Bungle 11:11 pm 09 Aug 08

Are we all sure these people are for real??

Whenever somebody sadly shoots themselves or dies in a street racing accident we get someone coming on here with bizarre names who writes like they didn’t make it into primary school blaming everyone else. Surely someone is taking the p*ss.

Madman Madman 9:13 pm 09 Aug 08

i like the bit were PRIP goes and complains everyones talking about pierre on a website and he himself is fueling the threading fire.

And yeah, if i was him, knew he had a gun and was suicidal-i wouldn’t trust the police telepathy and actually report it so that i’d have my mate around for a lot longer.
I don’t think anything the police did contributed to this bloke having a bad life and in turn ending it.

Shannski, you sound like a very reasonable person and i feel sorry for you loosing your friend-all the best to you.
As for PRIP, you yourself have some issues you need to sort out, i understand your loss but you don’t go taking out personal threats to someone you don’t know over the net, and blaming others for their own decisions

And DJ, I totally agree with your comments, you would def rat out your friend to help them no matter what, and if you were the friend you say you were, you’d def spell their name right!!!

BerraBoy68 BerraBoy68 1:55 pm 09 Aug 08

I’m not sure how anybody can ever blame anybody else for a suicide. It’s hardly a ‘look what you made me do’ crime. From what I’ve heard this bloke had problems but solving them at the point of a gun is never an answer. You’d also have to question why Pierre had a gun in his boot in the first place. It’s hardly an approved storage facility for such things.

Shannski Shannski 1:03 pm 09 Aug 08

peire_rest_in_paradise.

I understand Pierre may have been your friend, I knew him for 12 years, But This is a forum, And your behavior on here is disgraceful, You made Pierre look bad, you made the police look bad, and you made yourself look like a complete and utter idiot.

Cameron Cameron 12:33 am 09 Aug 08

I wonder if PRIP has deliberately misspelled Pierre?

IthinkTHIS IthinkTHIS 10:20 am 08 Aug 08

Very sad…
for all involved. What about the young girl that was with him.
Anyone thought how she has been effected???

Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 10:07 am 08 Aug 08

I second mdme’s comments, though I will say in response to DJ’s comment, if this bloke did know about the shotgun…well, most young men tend not to dob in their mates. It’s part of the whole loyalty thing. Whilst to some looking in from the outside, this may seem stupid, but for a lot of young people, they feel they can trust themselves and their mates than they can the police. Sometimes this is even justified.

However, that was not the case here, as far as I can see. The police couldn’t have searched the vehicle legally, they wouldn’t have had a whiff of this until the final moment. I’m sure the attacks against police from this guy have come out of grief and anguish more than anything. It’s hard losing someone you know to suicide. I know the feeling personally as well. I hope his friends and family and anyone else involved, including the police, get the support and love they need to get through what must be an incredibly tough time.

Skidbladnir Skidbladnir 10:06 am 08 Aug 08

Why do people think they’re doing favours to their friends by whiteknighting in with such ‘logical arguments’ on RiotACT?

Thumper Thumper 10:04 am 08 Aug 08

Without doubt JB, definitely leading the pack at this stage with what one could only describe as classic, even vintage ranting. Note the exquisite lack of punctuation and capitalisation, with just a hint of text speak.

Classic stuff. In fact, the stuff that makes a champion in this field.

Back to you JB.

Cameron Cameron 10:02 am 08 Aug 08

There was very little doubt in my mind that this topic would produce one or two candidates.

johnboy johnboy 10:00 am 08 Aug 08

I think we have a strong early entry for our monthly award.

Tooks Tooks 9:32 am 08 Aug 08

peire_rest_in_paradise said :

the man that shot him self was a friend of mine and hes girl friend has been my friend for years, he was going through a very rough time and has been scuicidal for some time and the police know this, bout 2 months ago he was done for unlicend driving and was taking to the police station held over night he had hes 22 shot gun in hes car boot the police never searched hes car and i can say the car woulda been to some interest to them if the police had of done their jobs then maybe a young man would be still alive coz the 22 was the same weapon he used 2 shoot him self

So police didn’t do their jobs by illegally searching your friend’s car for a gun they didn’t know existed? Okaaay…

mdme workalot mdme workalot 9:16 am 08 Aug 08

Gotta agree with DJ’s post here PRIP – why are the police to blame when you (as his friend) did not do anything to try and stop this? Don’t get me wrong – I don’t think you should have done anything drastic and I don’t think you should blame yourself for his death but I don’t understand why you think the police should have done an illegal search (which they would get flamed for as they would have had no probable cause) for a weapon that they legally had no knowledge this guy possessed (as I understand it).

The police are not miracle workers, and they cannot save everyone, particularly those who do not want to be saved. I feel sorry that you lost a friend and this was a senseless waste of a young life, but I think you need to realise that in all likelihood the police could not have done anything other than what they did to try and save this guy.

el el 8:40 am 08 Aug 08

But what reasons would the police have had to search the car?

Not a requirement for someone that’s been booked for driving unlicenced IIRC.

peire_rest_in_paradise peire_rest_in_paradise 4:39 am 08 Aug 08

DJ said :

peire_rest_in_paradise said :

the man that shot him self was a friend of mine and hes girl friend has been my friend for years, he was going through a very rough time and has been scuicidal for some time and the police know this, bout 2 months ago he was done for unlicend driving and was taking to the police station held over night he had hes 22 shot gun in hes car boot the police never searched hes car and i can say the car woulda been to some interest to them if the police had of done their jobs then maybe a young man would be still alive coz the 22 was the same weapon he used 2 shoot him self

“…if the police had of done their jobs then maybe a young man would be still alive…”

You are a complete fool – time for a reality check ya goose.

So, you knew he had a gun in his car. You knew he had problems? Why didn’t you say something to Police yourself? He could be alive today because of your help. Some mate you are – do you think a simple call to Crime Stoppers or the Police where you don’t leave your name might have helped?

I hope your mates don’t rely on you for anything more serious than a shout at the bar.

what do you know you dont know shit, the police already knew he was scuicidal i dont condone hes behavior but it makes me sick thinking a bunch of people are talking bout it on the internet, are the goose u just see a man topping him self in the article and think wow this is interesting lets make comments bout him on the net, and no it wasnt a normal person he was some one special unlike u go fuck your self u loser

DJ DJ 2:51 am 08 Aug 08

peire_rest_in_paradise said :

the man that shot him self was a friend of mine and hes girl friend has been my friend for years, he was going through a very rough time and has been scuicidal for some time and the police know this, bout 2 months ago he was done for unlicend driving and was taking to the police station held over night he had hes 22 shot gun in hes car boot the police never searched hes car and i can say the car woulda been to some interest to them if the police had of done their jobs then maybe a young man would be still alive coz the 22 was the same weapon he used 2 shoot him self

“…if the police had of done their jobs then maybe a young man would be still alive…”

You are a complete fool – time for a reality check ya goose.

So, you knew he had a gun in his car. You knew he had problems? Why didn’t you say something to Police yourself? He could be alive today because of your help. Some mate you are – do you think a simple call to Crime Stoppers or the Police where you don’t leave your name might have helped?

I hope your mates don’t rely on you for anything more serious than a shout at the bar.

peire_rest_in_paradise peire_rest_in_paradise 1:50 am 08 Aug 08

the man that shot him self was a friend of mine and hes girl friend has been my friend for years, he was going through a very rough time and has been scuicidal for some time and the police know this, bout 2 months ago he was done for unlicend driving and was taking to the police station held over night he had hes 22 shot gun in hes car boot the police never searched hes car and i can say the car woulda been to some interest to them if the police had of done their jobs then maybe a young man would be still alive coz the 22 was the same weapon he used 2 shoot him self

philbeez philbeez 6:43 pm 07 Aug 08

I read in the Canberra Times today that he was 24 years old and an ex Calwell High School student. Apart from anything else, ie the tragedy of another young man ending his life, just wondering what the relevance of which school he went to at least 8 years ago is? I mean, if he was 50 years old would they still say he went to such and such high school? I worked in a Pizza Hut 25 years ago but I certainly wouldn’t be putting it on my resume…

peterh peterh 5:43 pm 07 Aug 08

there seems to be some interesting discourse on the CT comments as well.

“Again it comes down to the government and the civil libertarians who recommended the closure of psych wards and hospitals. I was lucky that I had a good dr. to help me. The govt certainly needs to look at themselves very carefully.
Posted by charlie on 7/08/2008 11:34:11 AM

It’s started already! Of course Charlie – it’s the government’s fault for not mentally screening everyone in the ACT and stopping these things before they happen.
Posted by James on 7/08/2008 12:09:20 PM”

Mentally screening everyone?
now that is going a bit too far, isn’t it?
who will foot the bill?

Timberwolf65 Timberwolf65 5:24 pm 07 Aug 08

This is a terrible tragedy, I just don’t understand how a 24 year old can shoot them self like that, What caused him to want to threaten his girlfriend?
What was he doing with a gun?

These are things we will never find out I guess. I remember my life as a 24year old and shooting myself was one thing I never though about doing.
Kids grow up to quick these days and they seem to carry the weight of the world on their shoulders.

I feel sorry for everyone involved.

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