15 April 2009

Bail for Stephen Robert Milicevic

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The ABC brings word that Stephen Robert Milicevic, 32, of Forde has been granted bail with a $2,000 surety and a requirement to report to police three times a week.

Milicevic has been charged with assault occasioning actual bodily harm which allegedly lead last month to the death in Wanniassa of James Peisley.

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hetzjagd1 said :

I wonder what the significance of him having to report to police 3 times a week is. Is it just to prevent him getting more than two days away if he decides to skip town or go into hiding?

Yeah – it ensures he can only get as far as Perth before they notice he’s done a runner.

Hmmm maybe he is not being charged with Murder or Manslaughter because the victim did not die due to his injuries. The coroners report came back which clearly states this.

Come off it and lower your expectations.

Manslaughter is the new murder and assault is the new manslaughter.

Yes murderers can get bail, believe or not, the person may be charged with murder, then it has to be proven in court

No, we’re all happy. Happy, happy, happy! Thank you judiciary for saving us all from violent rednecks!

Felix the Cat8:48 pm 15 Apr 09

Ralph said :

He bashed him. He died as a direct consequence of his bashing; that’s murder.

He possibly didn’t mean to kill him, just bash him. Why is the charge not manslaughter?

$2,000 surety sounds pretty low for such a violent crime. Surely it should be more along the lines of $20K?

Tooks said :

BerraBoy68 said :

hetzjagd1 said :

I wonder what the significance of him having to report to police 3 times a week is.

+1. Also what is the spread of times he has to report (i.e. is it every second day or just 3 times at his convenience)?

I know our courts wouldn’t allow a loophole that’d let Milicevic to report at 9am, 12pm and 4pm on the same day then be gone for a week, could they? Please tell me it couldn’t be so…

Lol. No. It would be something like reporting three days a week (eg Mon, Wed, Fri) between 8a – 8p for example.

Thank God! (PC disclaimer: or any other non-specific deity or deities relevant to your individual believe system – I don’t judge)

I imagine that a well trained and professional magistrate or judge would not be putting their reputation on the line. They would have heard all the evidence and made a judgement about the likelihood of flight or re-offense. What these professionals don’t need is a whole lot of rednecks that have watched too many Westerns about lynch mobs and punitive sentences.

I imagine that a well-trained and leftist professional magistrate or judge would not be worried about public criticism in the ACT. They would have heard all the evidence and made an ill-informed judgement about the likelihood of flight or re-offense for this clearly violent member of the community. What these professionals do need is a whole lot of criticism from ordinary members of the community who are concerned about judicial leniency.

Ralph said :

Don’t people get charged with murder these days?

Yeah, usually when they commit the act of murder.

Granny said :

We’re in safe hands, alright. You can tell by the general morale of the police and prosecution.

I doubt that Judge Dread would make them happy.

BerraBoy68 said :

hetzjagd1 said :

I wonder what the significance of him having to report to police 3 times a week is.

+1. Also what is the spread of times he has to report (i.e. is it every second day or just 3 times at his convenience)?

I know our courts wouldn’t allow a loophole that’d let Milicevic to report at 9am, 12pm and 4pm on the same day then be gone for a week, could they? Please tell me it couldn’t be so…

Lol. No. It would be something like reporting three days a week (eg Mon, Wed, Fri) between 8a – 8p for example.

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Any links?

I wonder if Milecevic is related to the family who were murdered in Richardson in 1984? Though I imagine that’s a pretty common name in certain parts of the world.

We’re in safe hands, alright. You can tell by the general morale of the police and prosecution.

I imagine that a well trained and professional magistrate or judge would not be putting their reputation on the line. They would have heard all the evidence and made a judgement about the likelihood of flight or re-offense. What these professionals don’t need is a whole lot of rednecks that have watched too many Westerns about lynch mobs and punitive sentences. Hang them. Flog them. Put them in prison for fifty years.

Thank God we don’t elect our law enforcement officers and judiciary!

hetzjagd1 said :

I wonder what the significance of him having to report to police 3 times a week is.

+1. Also what is the spread of times he has to report (i.e. is it every second day or just 3 times at his convenience)?

I know our courts wouldn’t allow a loophole that’d let Milicevic to report at 9am, 12pm and 4pm on the same day then be gone for a week, could they? Please tell me it couldn’t be so…

I wonder what the significance of him having to report to police 3 times a week is. Is it just to prevent him getting more than two days away if he decides to skip town or go into hiding?

Granny said :

Meh. What’s the worst that can happen?

; )

LOL.

Meh. What’s the worst that can happen?

; )

I’m glad we don’t live in Ralph land then.

Life is good provided you’re not a miscreant.

Ralph said :

It is by my definition.

I thought a murder was a flock of crows. My mistake.

Ralph said :

And in my land a life sentence would be increased to 50 years, and that’s what he’d be getting.

I’m sorry, I must have missed the trial. Can somebody fill me in please?

Calwell Resident said :

What is the new softly softly approach Gaol for. And what sort of crime do you alleged to have done to be locked up in this town. Unbelievable.

If you really want to know how to get locked up, refuse to vote. See what happens then.

I’m glad we don’t live in Ralph land then.

And in my land a life sentence would be increased to 50 years, and that’s what he’d be getting.

It is by my definition.

Ralph said :

He bashed him. He died as a direct consequence of his bashing; that’s murder.

Nope, its not murder.

He bashed him. He died as a direct consequence of his bashing; that’s murder.

a) in relation to #3 above – bail is a surety. It’s very rarely paid upfront in this jurisdiction although on occasion it is ordered.
b) there is a presumption for bail except in extreme cases (murder etc) where the presumption is against. He has only been charged with assault ABH. Don’t like the law, lobby to get it changed. The Courts are only applying the letter of the law. you’d think as a copper you’d understand that.

Don’t people get charged with murder these days?

but I don’t think it will be paid WHEN he breaches the conditions of his bail.

Don’t you have to pay bail before they let you out?

Calwell Resident4:36 pm 15 Apr 09

What is the new softly softly approach Gaol for. And what sort of crime do you alleged to have done to be locked up in this town. Unbelievable.

Ooooh, $2000 should cover things nicely but I don’t think it will be paid WHEN he breaches the conditions of his bail.

WHEN WILL THE COURTS GET IT? THIS IS NOT WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS… please correct me if I am wrong but my small part in this fair City and my friends believe he shouldn’t get bail… I have no reason to think you all might think otherwise…oh, except DMD, WMC, Farc, Ant and some others I can’t remember.

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