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Banana Buffoonery

By Kramer 15 December 2009 64

Reading the ABC story School puts the ban in banana, I had thought April Fools day had come twice this year. Yesterday press were invited to report on Kevin Rudd listening to student’s environmental concerns at O’Connor Cooperative School, and apparently the invite included a warning for members of the press not to attend if they had eaten a banana in the previous 12 hours because of allergy concerns!

I think the press would be more interested in the PM, than the students – and in the unlikely event the press do want to talk to a student, I don’t think they’ll be locking lips (McDondald’s style). So if a student can’t handle being near a person who has eaten a banana for breakfast, then maybe the student needs to: keep their distance from others; carry an epipen; or wear a face mask. Next year we’ll be banning water in schools.


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foodog 12:36 pm 25 Dec 09

I can’t believe that any “healthy natural food” could possibly be banned yet kids are allowed to take processed “snacks” made from artificial chemicals (Kramer, your strawberry flavored milk doesn’t have any real fruit at all) to school.
When we start to ban fruit from schools how in the hell are we supposed to educate kids to eat healthy
My youngest son gets a rash around his mouth when eating a strawberry but now after about 50 of them (he loves them and steals them from the fridge) his body has decided they must be ok and he doesn’t get it anymore.
What are you supposed to send to school for your children ? sandwiches ? Bloody hell look at the ingredients of bread, there should be 4, but now there is a whole heap of crap including vegetable oil these days.
So if anyone wants to save our kids from “food” start with the myriad of chemicals that companies are putting in it.

me70 7:11 pm 19 Dec 09

I have children with dairy allergies, which are thankfully not life threatening. They go to a school with a nut-free policy. The mother of one of the nut allergic children was telling me her child is so allergic, that if another child goes for example,on the play equipment or to the toilet after eating a peanut butter sandwich, the minute traces on their hands that can be left on the eqiupment or doors etc can cause an anaphalactic (sp?) reaction if the allergic child goes on the equipment, or pushes open a door etc ..they don’t even need to touch their mouths! This child is also allergic to eggs, and holding them (even in their shells!) can cause their skin to blister & peel!..However they need to eat the eggs to cause an anaphalactic reaction, hence only the nuts are banned at school. I am HUGELY thankful that our allergy issues are merely annoying & not life threatening…how can anyone suggest that a child with a life treatening allergy is not special enough to warrant everyone being alert? As for childcare not allowing nuts even without an allergic child there…what if there is an as yet undiagnosed allergy? Don’t centres take babies from 6 weeks?? Really, can children not have peanut butter sandwiches etc. at home after school or childcare??
(But back to the op…the banana thing does seem a bit ott!)

Special G 7:54 pm 17 Dec 09

The answer is to designate one school that is allergen (nuts, bananas, bee sting etc) free and then all the kids who have severe allergies can go to that school. Problem solved.

You know it makes sense.

Genie 4:18 pm 17 Dec 09

Personally i think schools are a little over the top with the whole allergy debate. I agree with GnT why is there allergy warnings in place if no one actually suffers from the allergy. Do you know how hard it is to explain to a young child that they cant take peanut butter or nutella sandwiches to school when that is ALL they will eat??? Comforting them when teachers take away their chocolate cake, biscuit etc… just because it MAY have a trace of nuts in them…

If a child is severally allergic – fine have a nut free ban (or whatever the allergy), but i really dont understand why the majority has to suffer for one odd child. None of this crap was around when i was in school.. the kid with peanut allergies had to eat their lunch next to the teacher and we would all be forced to clean our hands after eating. Simple!

anonymous gungahlian 10:53 am 17 Dec 09

deezagood said :

anonymous gungahlian said :

I’ve just finished Yr. 9, and I think my school (Daramalan) has some sort of “nut free” rule (or maybe it’s just peanuts) but I have never seen it re-inforced by teachers or seen it in our student policy document. But I guess if a student is allergic to something, they should take responsibility for themselves and if it’s that bad- carry an epi-pen around. Dara is a big school and if we banned all the foods that someone is allergic to, there probably wouldn’t be much that we would be allowed to eat.

I would hope that high school students are a bit more mature and sensible than 5 year old primary school students (just a little…).

So would I Deezagood. But I see students whinging about others who have products containing nuts, my suggestion to them is to stay away.

GnT 9:27 pm 16 Dec 09

Schools and child care centres neeed to be proprtional in their management of this risk. If a child has a known anaphylactic allergy, it seems reasonable to ban that allergen in the school. If the allergy is particularly severe, it may even be reasonable to request that children in the child’s class (more likely to have close contact) refrain from eating the allergen for breakfast.

The banana example is completely OTT – even Anaphylaxis Australia agrees.

What I disagree with is schools and child care centres having a nut free policy just in case. My son’s child care is nut free yet there are no children there with nut allergies. There is a child there with egg allergies (not anaphylactic), yet there is no egg free policy (and nor should there be, since that particular child can handle some exposure without dying and knows to only eat his special biscuits).

Thumper 9:00 pm 16 Dec 09

i blame global warming myself

Might as well. Everything else is apparently attributable to it.

astrojax 6:57 pm 16 Dec 09

i blame global warming myself – super-heated banana growing conditions have led to extreme allergy properties, with the fruit containing elevated co2 content and probably mercury as well from the fish-sourced fertilisers they use. nuts to them.

Muttsybignuts 4:12 pm 16 Dec 09

I bet you everyone who is crying about their kids loss of peanut freedom…has fat kids.

schmeah 1:45 pm 16 Dec 09

AstralPlan perhaps read my comment, I’m saying that one of the major reasons we have such numerous allergies (which I do believe are real and can be life threatening) is because the new generation of parents wrap their kids up in cotton ball; no dogs, no mud, no sand pits, lactose free yoghurt only, mineral water from the natural spring in the back yard – none of that tap water stuff – and latex free pacifyers .. it goes on! When I was a kid, we had dogs, I played outside in sand and mud pits and we even had carpet in our house.

There are parents who don’t let their children near any of this and then they cry and carry on about allergies and how many they have and how every other poor kid in the school has to be denied his daily ration of dried fruit because little pampered Jane breaks out in a rash! (Oh I have a kiwi fruit allergy but my work colleague eats kiwi fruit everyday and I’m still alive).

I’m not a nasty person because I don’t have sympathy for overprotective parents who think their children are unique when really they’re just annoying.

GYW 11:49 am 16 Dec 09

Thanks, Pandy. I should have pointed out that food intolerances are a real medical issue, and can cause extremely uncomfortable reactions. They just don’t usually kill you in minutes like a bad allergic reaction can.

julz 10:23 am 16 Dec 09

Thats right GYW. I am not talking about those people who get a mild allergic reaction, I am talking about anaphylactic reaction which can be fatal in a very short period of time (my daughter turned blue after 20 minutes). She now carries an epipen with her everywhere to be safe – and does not expect the world to revolve around her allergies.

As for taking my own child’s life ‘too seriously’ – are you kidding! I hate to think how you view your own child’s life.

Pandy 8:34 am 16 Dec 09

>Australia has one of the highest levels of food allergies in the world.

As the ABC article said.

GYW is right I think that the world revolves around many of these fakers.

GYW 1:48 am 16 Dec 09

My partner is approaching 40 and has been fatally allergic to nuts, particularly peanuts, all his life. I am a year younger than him and have also had two anaphylatic (severe life-threatening allergic) reactions, one of which the doctor was amazed I survived, as my immune system shut down and my heart nearly stopped. Allergies are not some new, trendy thing that has just been invented by pampering parents, although I understand the number of people affected is increasing. When you are genuinely allergic to a food, you can literally die in minutes if you eat it, and children seem to be affected more quickly and easily than adults, ie, if they simply come into contact with the food or allergen they can have a severe anaphylaxis. That is the reason that schools have policies banning or restricting known allergens and the reason that if you go to emergency with an allergic reaction you will be seen straight away – basically, it is to minimise the risk that you will die on their premises!

Having said all that, just because a food doesn’t agree with you and you may have a non-life-threatening reaction to it does not make it an allergy – it is likely to be merely an intolerance. Lots of people confuse the two. I note that in the news article I read on the incident a representative from an anaphylaxis advocacy group was quoted as being critical of the over-the-top requirements for the journos in this case, and I agree. It just makes people think, as displayed by many in this thread, that people who have genuine allergies are faking it and want the world to turn around them unnecessarily, which is not the case.

I apologise for the rant, but you would not believe the sheer disbelief people show about anaphylaxis – until they see it happen – and it is something I feel very strongly about. Thanks to those who do understand how serious food allergies can be.

gingermick 10:12 pm 15 Dec 09

Perhaps krudd could call a banana summit.

Pandy 8:42 pm 15 Dec 09

That kid should get the hell out of Doge and move to Innisfail.

cranky 6:19 pm 15 Dec 09

Oh, that as much effort went into identifying and disciplining bullies!

Mr Evil 5:49 pm 15 Dec 09

Influenza/measles/chicken pox kill a shi#load of kids each year around the world – when are they being banned from the school ground?

A Noisy Noise Annoys An Oyster 4:51 pm 15 Dec 09

A Noisy Noise Annoys An Oyster said :

I’m not prepared to change my life – or society – around to accommodate a bunch of selfish, mollycoddled kids and their parents. The world can’t change just to accommodate you.

I repeated myself there – I meant to say “. . . The world can’t change just to please you”. And I stand by those comments.

Pommy bastard 4:46 pm 15 Dec 09

I worked with (not for long, thank god,) a “flower hat” woman who told me one day that her and her family were on an allergen free diet.

When I asked her what they were allergic to, she replied “Nothing, my reki master recommended it though.”

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