1 September 2008

Barking mad about parking

| Jorge
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There needs to be some consistency to ACT parking rules.

You can park in “no standing” areas in some places but if you did the same thing elsewhere you’d get booked.

What is with all the cars parked illegally behind Old Parliament House? They should either be booked, or the Government should build anorther carpark. The same thing happens around Manuka Oval – fair enough I say – but why isn’t there a sign saying “match day parking” or something.

It just leaves people open to arbitrary action by parking inspectors.

Personally, I reckon people should get on a bike or a bus, or walk a bit from a legal carpark. The ACT Government likes to think its green, yet they can’t take a tough decision.

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astrojax said :

i find that, too, bd84.

basically, people have to stop thinking they know better than the town planners and traffic authorities who regulate & install the parking signs, and learn to actually read them, then obey them. not hard. and stop thinking you have some god-given right to park out the front of where you want to be. exercise, they now show, prevents alzheimers, s’good for you.

and now i am glad of work’s private car park. but then, phillip is pretty easy for parks at the moment.

i find that, too, bd84.

basically, people have to stop thinking they know better than the town planners and traffic authorities who regulate & install the parking signs, and learn to actually read them, then obey them. not hard. and stop thinking you have some god-given right to park out the front of where you want to be. exercise, they now show, prevents alzheimers, s’good for you.

There is still plenty of free parking in this city. Think like a parking inspector.

parking in legitimate carparks often helps avoiding the parking tickets

Claine. Route 788 from Banks. Get out at PM&C building (two min walk to OPH). See here

http://www.action.act.gov.au/Weekday-2008Network/Route_788.html

free parking will never die out. it’s called ‘your driveway’… ; )

and when will they invent teleporting, i wanna know..!

I have a dream to drive a car. My kids need a car of their own.

ACT Light Rail6:03 pm 02 Sep 08

Parking is a significant urban planning issue. In meetings with urban planning and public transport stakeholders, several have identified parking as a higher priority to them than public transport. I think this reflects the existing urban landscape which has developed around the car as the primary mode of transport in the ACT.

Realistically, in the future there will be less parking available and it will become more expensive. Go and park in any other capital city and see how much that costs.

‘Cheap’ parking, which has existed in Civic since the 60’s is on its way out. Future carparking will be privately run, and cost more not only because private means a profit is required, but also because levies will be imposed upon parking space as a form of tax.

At some point free parking will also disappear. Its happening in Barton, and will move on to Russell fairly soon.

Improving public transport by installing light rail and a properly integrated bus system, would alleviate the requirement for the acres of carparking currently required. It is not a good use of space or of transport for an area to be empty for 12 hours a day or for a car transporting a single occupant which then sits there all day. Families could save a lot of money if only one car was required (NRMA estimates min $7500 a year) and the primary means of getting to and from places of employment or education were conducted using public transport.

Mia80 said :

JC said :

Jorge said :

BTW what is your take on the cars that park on the mound near the carpark that DFAT leases?

That “mound” has just been sold off. It too is about to become office blocks.
Where are all those cars going to park now?

Just the mount or the whole carpark? Hmmm. Yeah what will they do with those cars, plus all the other cars from the new buildings which do not have enough carparks for all the people who work there, let alone visitors.

JC said :

Jorge said :

BTW what is your take on the cars that park on the mound near the carpark that DFAT leases?

That “mound” has just been sold off. It too is about to become office blocks.
Where are all those cars going to park now?

I mean, “Parker Buyer”. Sheesh. Sense even less does make it. I up give!

Pseudo Nym said :

Overheard said :

If you DO get booked in this scenario, well, Parker Emptor — you knew the risks.

Caveat Parktor.

Oh yeah. “Parker Seller”. A not sense lot of make did that.

Overheard said :

If you DO get booked in this scenario, well, Parker Emptor — you knew the risks.

Caveat Parktor.

Jorge said :

Hi JC. That’s exactly my point. They are the rules.
But take a look behind Old Parly House.
Yes, Canberra is a car city. It’s the one great flaw of WBG’s grand plan (ah blasphemy!)
But we can’t let the cars eat the place by letting people park anywhere they like.

I am still not sure what the point was you are trying to make. If cars park illegally they get booked, simple as that.

You are ranting about old Parl house and Manuka oval, but what is your point? Are these cars parked illegally and what is your evidence they don’t get booked. I personally doubt the bombers would miss any oportunity to book ilegally park cars anywhere in this town.

BTW what is your take on the cars that park on the mound near the carpark that DFAT leases?

Far out Jorge – as if Canberra doesn’t have enough rules and regulations as it is!

Please don’t ask The Man to install parking signs out the back of OPH and at Manuka oval. Doing so will deny the decent folk from far flung and less leafy locales who are visiting the inner south the chance to freely and untimedly park their car in a bureaucratic grey area.

The illegal parking behind Old Parliment house? You wouldn’t mean the line of staff cars would you? I no longer work here, but when I did, I would occasionally start as early as 6am. I also had to frequently pass by the local bakery to pick up a large tray of bread. I had to bring my toolbox every day, and a change of clothes.

You would have me catch a bus from Banks?

Julius Constantius said :

I have my one legged uncle’s disable sticker that I have on permeant loan. I find it does supply me with great parking opportunities but more importantly it does highlight how easy the diable community really has it. One word “lazy”

I hope you’re taking the Carney and are not an able-bodied person using a disabled sticker.

Julius Constantius5:18 pm 01 Sep 08

I have my one legged uncle’s disable sticker that I have on permeant loan. I find it does supply me with great parking opportunities but more importantly it does highlight how easy the diable community really has it. One word “lazy”

Hi JC. That’s exactly my point. They are the rules.
But take a look behind Old Parly House.
Yes, Canberra is a car city. It’s the one great flaw of WBG’s grand plan (ah blasphemy!)
But we can’t let the cars eat the place by letting people park anywhere they like.

Parking will always be an issue, as the Government puts up more office blocks, usually built where car parking used to be, and expect EVERYONE to walk ride or catch a bus.

Now I live too far from my work place to walk or ride. But a daily bus fare (from NSW into Canberra return) would be edging $20 A DAY.
Thus parking & petrol ends up being much cheaper in the long run.
Where is the public transport for those peeps? Huh?

Where ever you go, my friend, you either need to be at work by 7am, or risk the inevitable ticket.
This is the nature of our current society (or until the Gov wakes up and gives us more parking).

“…..Personally, I reckon people should get on a bike or a bus, or walk a bit from a legal carpark….”

Dude you struggle just walking out to your front yard to pick up a newspaper!

There’s plenty of parking available in most places, you just have to park a bit further away and accept that a 5 minute stroll might be involved.

I always get a laugh out of those people who circle car parks for ages and ages burning fuel and wasting time just on the chance they might get a premium position up the front – meanwhile i’ve already parked 3 minutes walk away in a deserted carpark!

You park in a designated parking space or area if you don’t want to get a ticket.

For the record you cannot PARK in any no parking, no stopping or no standing zone. You can STOP in a no parking zone to let passengers out or to unload, but you may not leave the vehicle doing so is considered parking.

I also understand that no standing zones are being phased out and are being replaced by no STOPPING zones. So if you see the S with a line through it, it means no stopping, not no standing, although the rules are the same.

Jorge said :

Thanks Overheard.
I’m actually recording it here for some Stanhope Government adviser to pick up on and do something about it.

“recording it here” does not give you any guarantee of action. Much as I believe they lurk here, I don’t believe they use RiotACT as the trigger and agenda-setter for all of their business of the day.

If you really want to raise it as an issue, raise it directly.

the only time that someone may get away with parking somewhere they shouldn’t is if they are a disabled sticker, but if they park in a no standing area, they will get pinged too.

Thanks Overheard.
I’m actually recording it here for some Stanhope Government adviser to pick up on and do something about it.

Er, if it says ‘No Parking’ or ‘No Standing’ or ‘No Stopping’ or anything like that, don’t park there.

If you do park somewhere where there’s such a sign and you don’t get booked, just thank your Lord our Bob that you got away with it.

If you DO get booked in this scenario, well, Parker Emptor — you knew the risks.

If you feel aggrieved by what you deem to be an inconsistency, then (in a similar vein to my comments on the Chronicle thread), pick up the phone, ring the RTA or Traffic Operations or whoever it is in the Toytown Administration that looks after this stuff and have a polite chat with them. Ask some questions, suspend disbelief, and you might just get some answers.

This is where internet forums fall down – people end up with nothing to say after a while.

I just want to know where I can park without getting a ticket.
And in case someone thinks I’m some sort of neocon redneck, I point out that I also like to ride a bike.

The Chronicle. Parking.

Stay tuned for dog sh!t on footpaths and kids on skateboards.

Film at 11.

mutley...again4:46 pm 01 Sep 08

Methinks Jorge has just discovered an outlet.

Jakes is right, 360 degree vitriol is hard to achieve.

Wow, you managed to spray in all directions at the same time. That’s quite an achievement.

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