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Barton paid parking not a runaway success

By johnboy - 12 October 2010 65

The Canberra Times has the sad news that the Morris Property Group car park in Barton is running somewhat under capacity:

Yesterday at lunchtime only about 100 of the 612 bays were in use.

Nearby workers have been parking in side streets and on vacant land in Barton and Parkes to avoid paying.

Morris Property Group director Louise Morris attributed the small number of people using the car park to the availability of free parking elsewhere.

”It’s been very under-utilised,” she said.

The NCA is due to release a discussion paper on paid parking in the parliamentary triangle soon.

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Barton paid parking not a runaway success
The Great Bambino 5:50 pm 12 Oct 10

JC said :

The Great Bambino said :

No Canberran should have to pay for parking at their place of employment.
In Canberra it is not a priviledge it is a necessity, whether it be public servantor private enteprise.

Corbell stating that its a means to get people to utilise our farsical public transport system is a friggin joke.

I for one refuse to sit in a bus for an hour and a half when I can get myself there in 30 minutes.

Once the transport system can get me to my place of employments even remotely close to those times I may give them a look in. But at the moment the only way that will happen is via a light rail network or government funded jetpacks….

But as I said before, no one should have to pay to park there car at their place of employment in Canberra.

How do you think as light rail network will make your journey any quicker?

I was hoping for the jetpacks, but I digress.

If we had lightrail travelling the major arteries which funnily enough were designed to one day host a rail system between sattelite city centres (E.g. Northbourne, Tuggers Parkway, Belconnen Way, Ginninderra Drive, Adelaide Ave etc) with the assistance of a better bus system to get you to these centres, a trip from say Gungahlin to Woden would easily be achieved in under an hour in peak hour. And if given prioity at intersections and not tied up in peak hour jams could be quicker. Hell I love my car but given a decent choice would definately leave it at home.

One day it would be nice to have a symbiotic transport nirvana like those Victorians that just seems to work. But there’s more short term money in pay parking, speed camera’s and botched bridge construction…

JC 5:04 pm 12 Oct 10

The Great Bambino said :

No Canberran should have to pay for parking at their place of employment.
In Canberra it is not a priviledge it is a necessity, whether it be public servantor private enteprise.

Corbell stating that its a means to get people to utilise our farsical public transport system is a friggin joke.

I for one refuse to sit in a bus for an hour and a half when I can get myself there in 30 minutes.

Once the transport system can get me to my place of employments even remotely close to those times I may give them a look in. But at the moment the only way that will happen is via a light rail network or government funded jetpacks….

But as I said before, no one should have to pay to park there car at their place of employment in Canberra.

How do you think as light rail network will make your journey any quicker?

schmeah 4:51 pm 12 Oct 10

Wow, $8 – it’s cheap compared to London Cct where it’s a rort at $11 a day!!

Heck, make a public transport system that works!! The benefits to the economy would be staggering (although maybe not to the corporate pin heads who construct car parks – how will they cope).

Upgrade the bus fleet so everyone can ride on it (good luck getting a pram onto those old soviet hangovers) and expand services outside of the Civic, Woden, Belco, Tuggers centres. Improve connection services – if they exist? And weekend services .. please, no one likes to stay at home on a Sunday, so how about scheduling more than 1 bus every hour between 11 and 2pm.

Unlike mega cities, Canberra has a population where a well functioning and well managed bus system could actually be impressive (as opposed to Brisbane, where the bus routes are pretty good and frequent and travel times can be speedy along the bus ways.. but good luck getting a seat; it’s elbow room only, anytime after 7am).

The Great Bambino 4:19 pm 12 Oct 10

No Canberran should have to pay for parking at their place of employment.
In Canberra it is not a priviledge it is a necessity, whether it be public servantor private enteprise.

Corbell stating that its a means to get people to utilise our farsical public transport system is a friggin joke.

I for one refuse to sit in a bus for an hour and a half when I can get myself there in 30 minutes.

Once the transport system can get me to my place of employments even remotely close to those times I may give them a look in. But at the moment the only way that will happen is via a light rail network or government funded jetpacks….

But as I said before, no one should have to pay to park there car at their place of employment in Canberra.

KB1971 3:49 pm 12 Oct 10

Gerry-Built said :

I wonder …is it secure parking?

Yap, you wont get your celica stolen from there……

p1 3:30 pm 12 Oct 10

Chaz said :

why isn’t the gov providing more parking? we’re paying enough in rego to cover it.
we need to stop having private parks popping up. parking should be free

Or, we can make parking very expensive, so people don’t drive. At least the roads will be quiet.

Amanda Hugankis 3:12 pm 12 Oct 10

Well some of the footpaths are shocking, making walking in ridiculous heels to show off designer dresses to the workers … oh. You said RUNAWAY. I thought you said … oh never mind.

Chaz 3:10 pm 12 Oct 10

why isn’t the gov providing more parking? we’re paying enough in rego to cover it.
we need to stop having private parks popping up. parking should be free

Erg0 2:09 pm 12 Oct 10

They’re probably hoping that the previously discussed FBT implications will cause free parking in the area to dry up in the medium term. Plus they’re making $700+ a day more from that car park than they were before.

troll-sniffer 2:07 pm 12 Oct 10

I guess it was factored into their business plan, for I doubt the site is to remain a carpark for very long. One might imagine that with the length of time it takes to get design, approval and for work to start on a serious redevelopment of such a site, a savvy operator would seek to harvest a cashflow against the rates and other expenses of keeping a block vacant. After fairly minimal expenses every parking dollar is a dollar towards those expenses, no matter how few there are.

The above para is pure conjecture, if anyone KNOWS anything more substantial, I’d be happy to be proved wrong (for the 16th time in my 50 odd years).

p1 1:47 pm 12 Oct 10

“Morris Property Group director Louise Morris attributed the small number of people using the car park to the availability of free parking elsewhere.”

How did they miss that when doing their business plan?

Rollersk8r 1:22 pm 12 Oct 10

I hear from friends when they started to build this carpark – but how did it come about? What rules or process changed to all of a sudden introduce a single paid parking lot in the parl triangle?

Growling Ferret 1:22 pm 12 Oct 10

The Canberra Times, now only a month behind the hot topics on The Riot Act

Gerry-Built 1:16 pm 12 Oct 10

I wonder …is it secure parking?

PM 1:16 pm 12 Oct 10

Well duh.

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