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Big brother gets his groove on. Point to point is hot to trot

By johnboy 22 September 2011 65

A busy Simon Corbell has informed us that his point-to-point speed camera legislation has passed the Legislative Assembly.

The first point to point system is being built on Hindmarsh Drive and is expected to become operational later this year. A second system is expected to be commissioned in 2012.

The system uses cameras equipped with with Automated Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) technology, and scans photographs to identify vehicle numberplates. The system takes time-stamped photographs of vehicles as they pass two places (detection points) set at a known distance apart. If the average speed exceeds the average speed limit between those points, an infringement notice for a speeding offence may be issued.

ANPR technology is already used in the ACT, as part of ACT Policing’s RAPID (Recognition and Analysis of Plates IDentified) system to detect offences involving unregistered or uninsured vehicles and unlicensed drivers.

“The system photographs only the back of vehicles and the images do not identify drivers or riders,” Mr Corbell said.

“There are strong safeguards to protect personal information, and the legislation explicitly restricts access to and use of these images. Images that do not show offences will be destroyed after 14 days.

Simon assures us they won’t be used to track our movements.

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milkman 2:04 pm 30 Sep 11

@ Jimbo Jones.

Having just replied to you, I’m now thinking that you are probably the most deliberately argumentative person on this site. Congrats!

milkman 2:03 pm 30 Sep 11

Jim Jones said :

milkman said :

Jim Jones said :

milkman said :

The issue here is the slavish following of speed limits in the belief that it somehow makes driving ‘safe’.

How is that an issue? You’re the only one who’s mentioned it.

No one has said anything even vaguely similar to that.

What about use of the term ‘no such thing as safe speeding’? Zippy brought up exactly this point.

Saying ‘there is no such thing as safe speeding’ does not in imply that ‘not speeding = complete safety’ any more than saying ‘swans are white’ implies that all white things are swans.

That’s basic logic right there.

Agreed. Which is exactly why I said that following speed limits slavishly in the belief that you are safe is incorrect.

poetix 1:56 pm 30 Sep 11

Jim Jones said :

milkman said :

Jim Jones said :

milkman said :

The issue here is the slavish following of speed limits in the belief that it somehow makes driving ‘safe’.

How is that an issue? You’re the only one who’s mentioned it.

No one has said anything even vaguely similar to that.

What about use of the term ‘no such thing as safe speeding’? Zippy brought up exactly this point.

Saying ‘there is no such thing as safe speeding’ does not in imply that ‘not speeding = complete safety’ any more than saying ‘swans are white’ implies that all white things are swans.

That’s basic logic right there.

Do you mean to suggest that black swans are not swans?

Jim Jones 12:31 pm 30 Sep 11

milkman said :

Jim Jones said :

milkman said :

The issue here is the slavish following of speed limits in the belief that it somehow makes driving ‘safe’.

How is that an issue? You’re the only one who’s mentioned it.

No one has said anything even vaguely similar to that.

What about use of the term ‘no such thing as safe speeding’? Zippy brought up exactly this point.

Saying ‘there is no such thing as safe speeding’ does not in imply that ‘not speeding = complete safety’ any more than saying ‘swans are white’ implies that all white things are swans.

That’s basic logic right there.

milkman 11:46 am 30 Sep 11

Holden Caulfield said :

Palifox said :

And how far apart are these points? Suppose I drive from Weston Creek to Fyshwick and fluke most of the traffic lights green. My point to point speed is far higher than usual, even though I may be 5kph below the posted limits all the way.

qbngeek said :

It needs to be set up between the traffic lights or it will be worse than useless

And they are.

It looks like the detectors will work for both directions of traffic with one set of cameras set up 100-200m west of the Dalrymple St/Mugga Lane traffic lights. The other cameras are positioned several hundred metres east of the Palmer St lights.

NSW has point to point cameras set up near Lake George on the freeway. Be interesting to see whether things have changed much (in terms of average speeds, accidents, etc).

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