Big cash from a smallish drug bust

johnboy 4 May 2007 50

The ABC has a story on a drug bust in Tuggeranong which saw a smallish haul of drugs: 400 ecstasy tablets, 85 grams of the drug ice (now reads three grams, that was a cut and paste from the original), three kilograms of cannabis.

So certainly a diversified business and probably supplying smaller dealers. But what kind of money can you get for a bundle of drugs that you could pack in a suitcase and carry away?

Well the police also found $400,000 (now reads as $40k, I may have erred but I suspect an edit has been made).

We’re all in the wrong line of business (well most of us are anyway).

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50 Responses to Big cash from a smallish drug bust
Absent Diane Absent Diane 11:37 am 09 May 07

the negative effects of drugs eg crime are due to the illegality of the drug.. the health affects can be attributed lack of control/standardisation.

Standardise and control and essentially what you have is antidepression drugs.

I think the way society is going at the moment, I can forsee everyone within the next 100 years being reliant on drugs in order to maintain a happy life style.

shauno shauno 10:54 am 09 May 07

The price per gram is lot more then Gold and its what makes it so lucrative to sell.

All these drugs were perfectly legal a century or so ago and in some cases a lot less then that. And we didn’t have hords of the population off their face. Also as I said before in Amsterdam some of these drugs are legal and society continues on there ok.

MRB MRB 10:43 am 09 May 07

shauno, you’re kidding right? The price of a hit of heroin/ice is about the same as an average case of beer. Certainly not more than the price of gold.
I still don’t see how legalising it would solve anything. If it makes it cheaper, then the user will be able to afford more – don’t kid yourself that the user will be thinking ‘oh good, I’m saving money now it’s cheaper’.
And people who might otherwise not be able to afford it, will all of a sudden be able to. I can only see a lot more people off their faces more of the time walking the streets.
As for alcohol, sure it’s legal, but do we want hard drugs to end up the same as alcohol in society?

shauno shauno 4:50 am 09 May 07

Dude Ranch just about every example you used in that rant of yours is purely the result of the illegality and high cost of drugs on the black market.

And yes it is as you say “supply and demand” supply being black market at extremely high prices.

All of these drugs cost more then the price of Gold with the exception of Marijuana which is about 2/3 the price of Gold and alot are above the price of Platinum. There is only one group of people benefiting from this and thats the criminals selling these drugs.

MRB MRB 12:12 am 09 May 07

For someone who doesn’t like personal attacks on themselves, you certainly like dishing them out eh johnboy? Perhaps you have some prejudices yourself, or is that just not ever, ever, ever possible from the open minded, great thinker, guru, that is jb?

johnboy johnboy 11:24 pm 08 May 07

Or I could ask my merchant banker mates about their weekend habits.

Or the doctors I know who sort themselves out.

Or the fighter pilots, Prime Ministers and Presidents who’s amphetamine use is a matter of historical record.

But don’t let that get in the way of your pygmy brained prejudices.

Dude Ranch Dude Ranch 11:20 pm 08 May 07

Oh my, there are comments in this thread from morons who think, just because they have or do use drugs, gives them a wealth of experience. They obviously have no concept of the reality of drug use.
Go and ask the window washers on Northbourne Ave how their life is, and these are the dudes that are trying to pay for their habit not breaking into yours and my home.
Go and ask the girls working at Fyshwick what their number one motivation at work is.
Yeah it’s easy to say “Alcohol’s a drug too”. You don’t see people holding up a post office or doing tricks for $50 because they are hanging for that case of Melbourne Bitter.
Yes there are social issues with alcohol abuse, but I’d take a punch up in town on a Saturday night over someone holding a blood filled syringe to another’s throat while demanding their wallet any day.
I’m sick to death of the downright naïve comment “Target the seller not the user” It’s supply and demand fools.
The only reason why users aren’t targeted like sellers are is because of “Harm Reduction” Basically the ACT Government wants users to not fear being arrested when calling for help when they or a friend OD’s . (Did you get anything out of this statement…… drug use us harmful and wow! you can kill yourself from it)
Go and pop your pills, pull your cones and be proud. I hope for your sake it doesn’t turn into something else, but you’ve got to start somewhere hey?

MRB MRB 10:35 pm 07 May 07

Sorry, I didn’t think we were talking about alcohol or cigarettes. I’ve said nothing about them but the problems are certainly there too. That is not in dispute. However, is it your argument that because alcohol and cigarettes are legal, that drugs should be too? Or do you want alcohol and cigarettes declared illegal too?

I don’t think de-criminalizing drugs just to find out what would happen, as you say, is a good reason to do it. Just because something hasn’t been tried doesn’t necessarily make it a good idea to try it!

In answer to your question – yes I do drink. I can still pay the bills and buy a bottle scotch or a couple of long-necks a fortnight. However, if I were addicted to an illicit drug, I’d imagine my priorities would be elsewhere.

BTW Farq, what are ‘people like me’?

simbo simbo 10:29 pm 07 May 07

I would suggest that a junkie wasted on 10 times their normal supply might be just that little bit easier to catch than one who’s beginning to detox …

farq farq 7:20 pm 07 May 07

We already see massive ‘flow on effect’ in out community from alcohol abuse. Everything you described (financial hardship), all manner of criminal behavior (drunks are not stereotyped as thieves, but we associate drinking and violence!). Then there are the health problems caused by alcohol and cigarettes.

As long as the ‘war-on-drugs’ has a cease-fire on the drug users of Canberra, I’ll be happy. I’ve got no sympathy for dealers. The market compensates them for the increased risk they take.

I currently don’t know what would happen if drugs became de-criminalized, but as long as we have people like MRB supporting an (hypocritical?) abstinence only policy, we will never find out.

farq farq 7:11 pm 07 May 07

Do you drink? Can you still pays the bills and buy a bottle of scotch or a couple of long-necks a fortnight?

MRB MRB 12:38 pm 07 May 07

That’s my point. Regardless of the price of drugs, you can bet that an addict will spend most, if not all, of their money on the stuff. Therefore, they will still need to commit crimes for the next hit.
Go nuts on the stuff if it doesn’t affect anyone else, but I think you’ll find that is rarely the case.
Whether that translates into committing offences against others, or not being able to put petrol in the car or pay a bill – there will always be a flow on effect.

johnboy johnboy 11:57 am 07 May 07

I suspect you’ll find most are already taking as much as they want.

Anyway what business is it of yours (or mine) how people get off?

If they hurt someone or deprive others of their property then hit them like a tonne of bricks.

MRB MRB 11:32 am 07 May 07

Or they’ll buy ten times as much – I’d bet on that rather than them curbing their habit.

johnboy johnboy 11:27 am 07 May 07

If the drugs are a tenth of the price (a reasonable guess on the current markup) then we can assume the junkies will only need to steal 1/10th of your stuff.

MRB MRB 11:17 am 07 May 07

I’m not entirely convinced that legalising these drugs is going to stop the crime rate, or anything else that is currently associated with them for that matter.
If it was to happen, the person will still need money to purchase the now legal drugs – where would this money come from? And if the government supplies some of the money and/or drugs, what happens when the person wants more than their ration? I doubt a person wanting a hit is going to wait for their next allocation. The only thing that may happen is that drugs may become cheaper, but I still don’t see how this will be an improvement. It would for one result in an increase in use as the person can afford more. Everyone knows that the more you take, the less effect is has, so the more you need. So back at square one.
To solve the problem, the person really needs to be removed from a position that allows them to purchase/be supplied with the drug in the first place.

justbands justbands 9:23 am 07 May 07

> justbands – Only weekend plans? You are obviously ignorant of the effect drugs have on a family let alone a community. Back into the dark closet for you.

Errr…well, no actually. I’m fully aware of what they can do. As johnboy says though..there’s use & there’s abuse. I reckon you’re the one in the dark closet.

West_Kambah_4eva West_Kambah_4eva 8:49 am 07 May 07

400 ecstasy tablets, 3 grams of the drug ice three kilograms of cannabis = my average weekend.

shauno shauno 8:38 am 07 May 07

No its obviously not the Govt’s fault that there are drugs addicts thats not what I said.

However the fact these people need to break into houses to steal things to sell so as to support their habit is a direct result of these drugs being on the black market at high prices. Which is a result of govt policy.

If anybody really thinks the current hard line approach to drugs is working you really are kidding yourselves. But your certainly towing the conservative politically correct line.

nyssa76 nyssa76 8:09 am 07 May 07

Yes it’s the Govt’s fault that there are drug addicts….PUH-lease!

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