Bike cages come to Belconnen and Gungahlin

johnboy 25 March 2011 23

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Territory And Municipal Services have announced they’ve opened, with the help of MP for Fraser Andrew Leigh, two new bicycle cages for the bike>park>ride program:

“The bike>park>ride initiative has received $255,000 in Federal Government funding through the Regional and Local Community Infrastructure grant program. The ACT Government has also provided $700,000 over three years as part of the 2010-11 Transport for Canberra Budget to construct bike>park>ride facilities along the Rapid bus routes,” Paul Peters, Director of Transport Planning in TAMS said.

“The new bicycle cages are the first of their kind available to the community in Canberra. They have free, 24-hour swipe card access and the capacity for 24 bikes to be parked in each cage.

“One cage is located at the Community Bus Station on Cohen Street in Belconnen and another on Flemington Road near the corner of Nullabor Avenue.

“The bike>park>ride network will encourage people to combine a bike and bus ride as a practical and healthy alternative to travelling by car.

Details on the Transport for Canberra website

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Bluey Bluey 9:13 am 28 Mar 11

If I lived in say, Bonner and wanted to ride/bus than maybe this would be a good option for half-n-halfing it. Only explanation I can think of.

loopol loopol 8:59 am 28 Mar 11

It’s been near impossible to get on a bus at the stop on Flemington Road the last couple of months, let alone get a seat. Buses are usually full and drive right on by. The only advantage of riding a bike to this stop is that you’d have your bike with you so that you could continue on into town after watching buses not stop for you for 40+ minutes rather than having to walk home and get the car as I’ve had to do on numerous occassions.

Eby Eby 9:06 pm 27 Mar 11

Postalgeek said :

I’m not quite sure what your point is, Eby. Are you saying that because a fraction of the population can’t afford a bicycle (even free ones floating around the place) a scheme to promote cycling shouldn’t be given consideration?

Do you think the money should go to something more affordable like cars?

No, not at all – of course schemes to promote cycling are good.

My point is:

That I don’t really see much benefit in the bike cages; given they are only really for cycling between home and bus stop. If they have been developed because the bus stops are too far away from people’s homes for them to comfortably walk the distance; then these bike cages are not really fixing the core of the problem – which is that we don’t have enough buses or bus stops.

eily eily 4:37 pm 27 Mar 11

Every time I read the headline I misread “bird cage”.

Eby Eby 3:04 pm 27 Mar 11

johnboy said :

All people who can’t afford a bicycle need to get a different job.

I really hope you’re being deliberately facetious!

Postalgeek Postalgeek 2:56 pm 27 Mar 11

I’m not quite sure what your point is, Eby. Are you saying that because a fraction of the population can’t afford a bicycle (even free ones floating around the place) a scheme to promote cycling shouldn’t be given consideration?

Do you think the money should go to something more affordable like cars?

Davo111 Davo111 12:31 pm 27 Mar 11

Eby said :

I don’t think we can generalise that ‘all poor people’ don’t have their priorities right.

hence why i said “some”

johnboy johnboy 10:14 am 27 Mar 11

All people who can’t afford a bicycle need to get a different job.

Eby Eby 10:06 am 27 Mar 11

Davo111 said :

Eby said :

but on a side note, some people’s margins are that thin. Or much thinner.

Interesting you say that, when i worked in liquor, couples would be discussing their finances in front of me with a significant portion of money going on booze, then ‘whats left’ on groceries and kids.

Some people need to get their priorities right.

Yes, some people do need to get their priorities right. Some people already have their priorities right, and just don’t have enough money to cover them. I don’t think we can generalise that ‘all poor people’ don’t have their priorities right.

Davo111 Davo111 9:13 pm 26 Mar 11

Eby said :

but on a side note, some people’s margins are that thin. Or much thinner.

Interesting you say that, when i worked in liquor, couples would be discussing their finances in front of me with a significant portion of money going on booze, then ‘whats left’ on groceries and kids.

Some people need to get their priorities right.

breda breda 6:17 pm 26 Mar 11

How come people get to wait outside pretty much exposed to all weathers while bikes get a snug little shed?

While it is nice to know that some bureaucrat has such a caring approach to the welfare and security of bikes, it is a pity commuters are not held in the same esteem.

ACT Government – caring for your bike, but not for you.

Eby Eby 5:14 pm 26 Mar 11

johnboy said :

If your margins are so thin an $80 cost is crippling then frankly you need to URGENTLY re-structure your life.

I take your point on the cost of a bike, but on a side note, some people’s margins are that thin. Or much thinner. Some families are making decisions about whether to buy groceries or pay the electricity bill, and so definitely don’t have $80 to spare!

johnboy said :

Also anyone too disabled to ride a bike likely already has access to community transport (wheelchair taxis etc)

Yes, well. Only in theory.

johnboy johnboy 11:31 am 26 Mar 11

Also anyone too disabled to ride a bike likely already has access to community transport (wheelchair taxis etc)

johnboy johnboy 11:28 am 26 Mar 11

You can get a running bike from the R-Shop in mitchell for $20.

Or if you’re willing to do some work to get it running you can have one from groups like rat patrol for free.

The functional cost of a bicycle in 2011 is as near to zero as makes no difference.

Yes there are ongoing costs, but compared to the bus, or god help you a car, they are also as close to zero as makes no difference.

If your margins are so thin an $80 cost is crippling then frankly you need to URGENTLY re-structure your life.

Eby Eby 11:02 am 26 Mar 11

Davo111 said :

Eby, you can get a bike from BigW for $80-120 these days, so its a reasonable investment.

You can’t assume that everyone has a spare $80 – $120 to be able to buy a bike, for starters. Half the people on the bus may be well-off public servants that can afford this; but I’m sure the other half are there because they don’t have their own cars – and therefore may not be able to afford a bike for themselves. But I’m also thinking of people who are disabled, who physically can’t ride bikes; but for whom the bus stops may be too far away from where they live…

Gungahlin Al Gungahlin Al 8:13 am 26 Mar 11

I ride the 10 clicks in most days but bus the others (rain, or just stuffed). But as I said to the transport staff when they brought news of these sheds to our meeting, people would prefer lockers. With a shed you’ve still got to strip lights, pump, etc off your bike and carry them plus helmet on the bus. A pain. If you’re taking a child to school or daycare first you also need to separately lock up the child seat.

If you have a locker you just pop the whole lot in and you’re off.

There’s a reason they’ve used lockers right through every train station in South East Queensland. They work. I’ll bet they are a damn sight cheaper than this shed too.

Be interesting to see how many people lift their bikes up onto those hangers too. I would think the sorts of people who would do this are the ones who ride the whole way.

s-s-a s-s-a 9:28 pm 25 Mar 11

From the looks of the application form, there is no obligation on anyone who is issued a swipe card to actually use their parking spot, and to be using buses from that interchange. If TAMS are going to give out just 24 cards and put everything on the waiting list, I think it should be incumbent on the recipients to be using the cage at least a certain number of times a week. Linking to their MyWay account will enable this, as Action have said they will do for Park and Ride tickets.

Otherwise, this becomes an attractive “just in case” option for people who rarely ride, or usually ride all the way. Or it becomes useful secure parking for people who work at Belco (or other future venues) but would otherwise have to park their bikes in the open.

Innovation Innovation 8:43 pm 25 Mar 11

Bluey – I’ve just read this thread after the more driver bastardry on the GDE thread. Please stop! I nearly wet myself laughing.

Davo111 Davo111 8:26 pm 25 Mar 11

Bluey, i’d think it was designed for those people who live far away from a “main bus route”, but work very close to the civic interchange. There isn’t much point taking your bike the whole way into town, particularly when there is no guarantee there will be a spare rack on the bus when it pulls up.

Eby, you can get a bike from BigW for $80-120 these days, so its a reasonable investment.

I dont like the idea of having the bike racks so close to the bus stop. All i can imagine is bikes getting damaged/leaned on by people waiting for the bus.

minniemay minniemay 7:37 pm 25 Mar 11

I can see how they’d be useful for someone like me who is nowhere near fit enough to ride into civic, but would be very interested in riding to a station that may access a faster bus route than my local neighbourhood wanderer route.

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