BodyCorp Gate Blocking Visitors Access

davo101 said :

Madam Cholet said :

Good luck is all I can say. We have to deal with an Executive Committee at our apartment in Merimbula and by golly do they have a bob on themselves. As it stands in NSW, and I would hazard a guess in the ACT, the decisions of the EC are final. The legislation says that when they make decisions, it is as if the whole complex made the decision. One would think that there would be provision in the legislation for adequate consultation prior to decisions being made, but actually no.

Well except for the bit where they have to be voted in, can’t make decisions that require resolutions at the general meeting, can be overridden by the owners’ corporation, have to give 72 hours notice of a meeting, have to let you attend and observe, and have to provide you with minutes after each meeting; then yes there is no consultation.

Madam Cholet said :

the ones who get themselves on to committees such as these are often nitwits to start with.

In the two strata schemes I’ve owned in the executive committee was everyone who could be arsed to turn up to the annual meeting.

Madam Cholet said :

the ones who get themselves on to committees such as these are often nitwits to start with.

In the two strata schemes I’ve owned in the executive committee was everyone who could be arsed to turn up to the annual meeting.

Same with my BC. The 5-7 people who turn up to the AGM are often the executive. The only time we ever had complaints from the residents other owners was when we passed a rule that all fencing when replaced was to be done in colorbond. Mostly because people read it as having to do it now,especially landlords looking to avoid spending any further money.

The good thing is though usually only live in owners turn up to AGM’s and most of the things we do are for the benefit of people living there, like supply a skip bin twice a year for waste disposal. Yet you’d think getting people to understand basic parking and garbage bin rules should be easy but they are the most commonly violated rules and its difficult to enforce.

GardeningGirl said :

“Is there a law that prevents visitor access to my front door?” That’s an interesting question, for example what if someone alone inside such a secure complex required an ambulance?

I could come under the Health and Safety requirement that access is required 24/7 for emergency services.

davo101 said :

FioBla said :

Parcel/pizza delivery/sex worker?

So you get a lot of unsolicited visits from sex works then?

Sometimes they come late. Sometimes they don’t come at all.

FioBla said :

Parcel/pizza delivery/sex worker?

So you get a lot of unsolicited visits from sex works then?

BimboGeek said :

Why are you getting unscheduled visits from people who know you well enough to have your home address but not your phone number? How does this possibly happen?

Parcel/pizza delivery/sex worker?

Madam Cholet said :

In our case, we had to get a strategy together to boot our elected member off and install a more moderate person. The rabid ‘right winger’ was desperately upset and is flinging insults hither and thither. It’s a tough world out there in apartment land I can tell you.

So he took it well then?

Madam Cholet said :

Good luck is all I can say. We have to deal with an Executive Committee at our apartment in Merimbula and by golly do they have a bob on themselves. As it stands in NSW, and I would hazard a guess in the ACT, the decisions of the EC are final. The legislation says that when they make decisions, it is as if the whole complex made the decision. One would think that there would be provision in the legislation for adequate consultation prior to decisions being made, but actually no.

Well except for the bit where they have to be voted in, can’t make decisions that require resolutions at the general meeting, can be overridden by the owners’ corporation, have to give 72 hours notice of a meeting, have to let you attend and observe, and have to provide you with minutes after each meeting; then yes there is no consultation.

Madam Cholet said :

the ones who get themselves on to committees such as these are often nitwits to start with.

In the two strata schemes I’ve owned in the executive committee was everyone who could be arsed to turn up to the annual meeting.

Good luck is all I can say. We have to deal with an Executive Committee at our apartment in Merimbula and by golly do they have a bob on themselves. As it stands in NSW, and I would hazard a guess in the ACT, the decisions of the EC are final. The legislation says that when they make decisions, it is as if the whole complex made the decision. One would think that there would be provision in the legislation for adequate consultation prior to decisions being made, but actually no. Any committee worth their salt would consult, but unfortunately, the ones who get themselves on to committees such as these are often nitwits to start with.

In our case, we had to get a strategy together to boot our elected member off and install a more moderate person. The rabid ‘right winger’ was desperately upset and is flinging insults hither and thither. It’s a tough world out there in apartment land I can tell you.

You need to canvass opinion from other non-executive members and get a body of evidence together to suggest that the situation needs to be reviewed. I would cite the suggestion below about emergency vehicles also – it’s a fair point.

But I do like the suggestion of a series of tunnels.

Why are you getting unscheduled visits from people who know you well enough to have your home address but not your phone number? How does this possibly happen?

“Is there a law that prevents visitor access to my front door?” That’s an interesting question, for example what if someone alone inside such a secure complex required an ambulance?

Hello there.
It’s good to canvas the voices of others, but in the end if you still feel nobody is taking action on the Committee to consider your concerns you can consider going to “mediation”. This means that they have to talk through your issue with a Government Official, and seek to mediate the issue. Maybe one solution will be to put a side pedestrian gate in with the added expense of intercoms to each unit, and a pin code to get in if it’s you looking to use it… it’s very common in Perth to have security all around the apartments. Good Luck.

Buy another remote and superglue it to an inconspicuous location on the wall near the gate. Tell your visitors where it is.

dannybear said :

I think the only solution here is a series of tunnels.

Ha good one

the original decision would have had significant financial impact and would have had to go to a general meeting of some sort (AGM or such) – but if the only ones attending and active are the executive committee then the decision is binding and legal. someone must have decided that this was a necessary expense as everyone would have contributed to the cost out of the sinking fund or through a special levy (those sort of gates are not cheap and for 12 units that is a significant increase in your levies).

sounds like it was poorly thought through and you need to add some form of system that allows people to contact the ‘internal’ units affected by this. better if you can get some care and support from other affected unit owners as by yourself you are unlikely to get much leverage.

Are you sure you don’t live at the Alexander Maconochie Centre.

I think the only solution here is a series of tunnels.

Two options:

1. Get a majority of owners to vote to have the gate removed
2. Get a majority of owners to vote to have an intercom system installed

One question:

1. If you knew what the situation was before you bought the place why are you bitching about it now?

I used to live in a large apartment block in Braddon – trust me the intercom is not a great solution if you have significant walk by traffic as every drunk idiot who came past at 3am in the morning would page random units… In the end I used to leave it off the hook with the volume set to 0 on Friday and Saturday nights (and during Summernats).

Put up a sign telling your visitors to knock on the doors they can access and ask to be let in. If you are getting a lot of visitors they’ll get sick of that pretty quick.

By my count, there are still another 6 units not accounted for. What are their views on this issue? You can always get political, and call extra meetings, or have other residents nominate to be on the executive who agree with you. Then you propose to either install wireless intercoms to every unit, or have the gate removed, or another access gate installed for pedestrians.

My other thought is a little more passive aggressive. Bolt a bell onto the wall outside your door, and run a rope/string to the outside area. Like they used in the old days 🙂 Or on Downton Abbey.

I guess you could also install a single wireless door bell as well, perhaps next to your letter box?

I’m sure there is a legal avenue as well. Perhaps warn the other members of the executive that you are considering legal avenues, and that they might like to work something out prior to legal people getting involved with their expensive rates?

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