Brawling Firies of Queanbeyan

andy555 said :

The whole over riding issue isnt the money or the fight – its that queanbeyan dosnt require – want or need – permonant fire fighters – the town of queanbeyan was very well looked after the way it was .

Jeez, talk about not willing to accept change. The NSW FB has decided to increase the fire protection of Queanbeyan & you don’t like that? I don’t understand how haveing permanent fireies can be detrimental to the community.

The Queanbeyan area is not getting any smaller so it makes sense to have permanent staff ready to go in case of emergency. Sounds like some people need to grow up & think of the community, not themselves.

along the lines of NYPD and NYFD t-shirts and hats, when does the Quangers FD range hit the stores?

The whole over riding issue isnt the money or the fight – its that queanbeyan dosnt require – want or need – permonant fire fighters – the town of queanbeyan was very well looked after the way it was .

The best thing for the town of Queanbeyan would be for all the permanent fire fighters to pack up and return to Sydney end of story – and for the Queanbeyan fire station to return to the way it was when it worked so efficiently and was well managed . for years Queanbeyan had a great fire station that was manned by a professional and very well trained group of 21 fire fighters and four fire appliances and the town of queanbeyan was very proud of them – now it doesn’t – When Queanbeyan had its own fire brigade there was no cross border memorandum of under standing with the act fire brigade we just relied on each other when our resources were stretched . Queanbeyan had a very well trained group of fire fighters as it was a very busy fire station . the over all people to blame for this are the nsw fb who took the jobs of the fire fighters it already had and replaced them with a permanent crew from Sydney that are no better trained .

Let’s clear the air.
There have been two issues at Queanbeyan fire station posted on this site.
An assault and stolen money.
Some Ret/f/f at Queanbeyan came forward and claimed that they had donated money.
This was proven to be a lie!
When a Ret/f/f claims they donated X amount of $$$. Then when asked who they gave it to they couldn’t remember. PLEASE!
There has been a police investigation into the allegation and found that it was just a part of the Ret/f/f trying to muddy the waters around the Station Officer that was assaulted.
The “stolen money” never happened.
The Biffo
As far as I know there was a trial and the Station Officer involved was found “NOT GUILTY” of the assault by the investigating officer.
The King hitting Ret/f/f pled guilty and was fined. He was forced to get his head looked at by a shrink. He is cleared to come back, but as yet has not (maybe he knows he’s not welcome). This was not the first time the Ret/f/f has assaulted a person in the work place.
It’s a shame that these people (and you know who you are). Winged to the media and on the net to try and tarnish the name of the station commander. Did they do this because the people above them don’t listen to the little boy the cry’s wolf anymore?
The retards (sorry that should read retained) at the station need to have a long hard look at themselves!
The ret/f/f at Queanbeyan are the offline (not available to respond) more than any Retained station in the state.
Shame on them.
I would also like to say as a Ret/f/f myself I’m ashamed of them. Not all Ret/f/f are like this. It’s just small pocket of pin heads at that station!

Check out some pictures of the Queanbeyan permanent fire fighters in action showing off there rescue skills at the below listed sight .

NSW Fire Brigades Queanbeyan 428 Scania pumper | Flickr – Photo …

At a fire station open day its truly amassing to see the lack training and general lack of rescue knowledge under taken by the permanent fire fighters . notice the danger tape I think its them at danger from bad working practices .

these men are meant to be permanent fire fighters of the nsw fb at a fire station open day – amassing – as a rescue crew they are meant to be being led by an officer and working as a team – what a joke –

Note the – A – pillar , no covering on it , also there is no covering on any of the pillars at all . also if you look close look where the – A – pillar is about to go .

also the tyres on the car are still inflated there for the car is not in a stable position for a rescue to commence .

why is the fire fighter conducting rescue whilst waring no protective clothing . i.e. – sleeves rolled up sunglasses and amazingly no helmet also he is waring general station clothes – maybe he is to cool to be waring protective clothing and working as a team as he is a fully trained permanent fire fighter .

I agree with you georgesgenitals – This type of behaviour really doesn’t amaze me at all as they are from Sydney not the country and in Sydney this type of behaviour must be normal . at the end of the day it really just shows how retarded there minds really are . – would you really want these type of guys from Queanbeyan teaching your children fire safety – I would say not ,,,,,

john2155 said :

reading these post it looks like the “part time” firefighters are a little pissed off that the “full time” out of towners have come into the little pond and they are doing there job.

It looks more to me like the “full time” out of towners are a bunch of idiots.

Mr Evil said :

People need to realise that it’s perfectly normal for male firefighters to investigate their colleagues penises & rub boot polish all over their scrotums, bend junior members of the brigade over and spank their bottoms with a large stick, and make them eat coleslaw out from between each others buttocks…..

Good clean, manly fun; that doesn’t do anyone any harm at all.

Penis inspections? Scrotum Polishing??Bottom Spanking??? Arse Coleslaw???

This is stupendous!! This is bloody colossal!!!! I have never, even in my wildest fantasies, ever considered eating *coleslaw* out of another mans arse. Until now! This is truly a work of genius!! These people are totally wasted in a fire station. They should be performing on Broadway, in little skimpy numbers with lots of sequins.

My bro-in-law is an ex ACT firefighter, now working in NSW. Wait’ll he hears about this.

When Queanbeyan had its own fire brigade there was no cross border memorandum of under standing with the act fire brigade we just relied on each other when our resources were stretched . Queanbeyan had a very well trained group of fire fighters as it was a very busy fire station . it is really sad to see such a vast amount of training and knowlage just lost and the nsw fb doesn’t even care . some fire fighters had been there for over 20 years . amassing what a wast of government money and time

Unlike permanent fire fighters part time fire fighters some times do the job of a station officer and also cary the powers of the chief officer . this was until a more senior officer arrived all safety and activity was there responsabilty . this is a lot of responsibility to place on 1 firefighter shoulders especially when the nsw fb doesn’t think they are ok to work on a permanent basis a permanent fire fighter is never placed in this situation there for never gains the same amount of knowledge

FIRE – as Queanbeyan is a busy fire station Queanbeyan fire fighters attended around 600 callouts each year – they would vary from fires to rescues to hazmat incidents . and gained extensive on the job knowledge and training . as they work 24 hours a day over all they do attend more calls than a permanent fire fighter and there for end up a much better over all fire fighter with much more experience and a more caring attitude .

RESCUE – unlike permanent fire fighters who do training with the nsw fb – the part time fire fighters of Queanbeyan went out of there way to obtain as much experience as possible so they where all fully trained and passed all exams with the nsw fire brigade and also to level 1 with the act fire brigade and also with the company – holmatro . that manufactures all the rescue equipment for Australia .

reading these post it looks like the “part time” firefighters are a little pissed off that the “full time” out of towners have come into the little pond and they are doing there job.

After that last comment – I have also taken the liberty of sending a transcript of this whole page direct to the nsw fb commissioner – :

andy555 said :

lets put your coments to the public paper so they can see ok

Umm, you seem to have copied Mr Evil’s support of bastardisation twice there andy…

Is it just me, or is there always something kinda homo-erotic about the sorts of things that get done during “bastardisation”?

Mr Evil said :

Gee, anyone would think there were problems within the NSWFB. Nothing wrong with a bit of bastardisation – keeps the blokes keen, and lets them know who’s really in charge.

People need to realise that it’s perfectly normal for male firefighters to investigate their colleagues penises & rub boot polish all over their scrotums, bend junior members of the brigade over and spank their bottoms with a large stick, and make them eat coleslaw out from between each others buttocks…..

Good clean, manly fun; that doesn’t do anyone any harm at all.

lets put your coments to the public paper so they can see ok

canberra times

Gee, anyone would think there were problems within the NSWFB. Nothing wrong with a bit of bastardisation – keeps the blokes keen, and lets them know who’s really in charge.

People need to realise that it’s perfectly normal for male firefighters to investigate their colleagues penises & rub boot polish all over their scrotums, bend junior members of the brigade over and spank their bottoms with a large stick, and make them eat coleslaw out from between each others buttocks…..

Good clean, manly fun; that doesn’t do anyone any harm at all.

Mr Evil said :

Gee, anyone would think there were problems within the NSWFB. Nothing wrong with a bit of bastardisation – keeps the blokes keen, and lets them know who’s really in charge.

People need to realise that it’s perfectly normal for male firefighters to investigate their colleagues penises & rub boot polish all over their scrotums, bend junior members of the brigade over and spank their bottoms with a large stick, and make them eat coleslaw out from between each others buttocks…..

Good clean, manly fun; that doesn’t do anyone any harm at all.

this is the type of guys people rely on for there safty , its a joke – no way , its crap , get them the hell out of the fire station –

• It sounds like we have a big miss management issue here . even though there is a cross boarder memorandum of under standing between nsw fb and act fb for response in to each others areas it doesn’t mean you use it until its required . they also have bush fire brigades and do they call them – to have the benefit of this is so great and is some thing the station never had in the past at its disposal . it should be used wisely for when your own recourses are stretched . If the fire station was managed correctly you would utilise your own recourses first that you already have and once your recourses are used then call for assistance . to use act fb to assist with responding to calls when you still have more of your own units still at the station is not only cutting down on the response time to an incident it could also endanger a life . but over all it’s a very big mismanagement issue .

• The safety and behaviour of any fire fighter at Queanbeyan station relies holy and soly with the station officers at the station . he can not afford to take sides with either party he must remain neutral – he is responsible in maintaining a good safe working environment and more important a great team of fire fighters that not only get on but work well together .

Gee, anyone would think there were problems within the NSWFB. Nothing wrong with a bit of bastardisation – keeps the blokes keen, and lets them know who’s really in charge.

People need to realise that it’s perfectly normal for male firefighters to investigate their colleagues penises & rub boot polish all over their scrotums, bend junior members of the brigade over and spank their bottoms with a large stick, and make them eat coleslaw out from between each others buttocks…..

Good clean, manly fun; that doesn’t do anyone any harm at all.

Whether manned by Permanent or Retained personnel,it would be hardly likely for the NSW Fire Brigade to hand the station over to the ACT, considering that the reverse was once the case. Irrespective of who runs the show, appropriate and professional monitoring and management is essential, especially in a case such as this where dual management exists.
Those running the show at Queanbeyan have been known for years to be growing too big for their boots (and not only to the retained staff, either) but a responsibility must also rest on the shoulders of those whose negligence has facilitated this collapse. When one considers that senior operators largely gain their rank through copying other senior operators, we may just be witnessing a case of monkey see, monkey do!!!

p1 said :

The fact that the majority of people making the big comments on this subject are “Newbies”, toughenup, I would suggest that they are people with some interest in or understanding of the situation. While the are undoubtedly putting forward their own view of things, that what this sort of site is for.

So, what is your take?

point taken. That is what the site is for.

And in these sort of incidents theres always two sides to a story. So it will be interesting to see what action is taken in-light of all the other brigade problems that have come out of late.

And I do agree with andy555, that at that station they all need to work as a team. As its a very important role that firefighters play in our community. Hopefully a resolution can be found quickly that brings that station and its employees together to do the role that they’re hired for. Don’t you all work under the same banner andy555?

Toughenup said :

You are kidding yourselfs. Unless any of you know what actually happened and or how the fire bridge work. You’d better do some research people.

No you are kidding as it looks like – You are kidding yourself – it really looks like its you that need to do your research on how a fire station should operate . its about time that people really found out what there fire levy is paying for and why the fire station has been reduced to the state that it is today – there is no room at Queanbeyan fire station – for a bunch of permanent fire fighters that think they know it all . to cut a long story short you either work as a teem or go – this has not only wrecked the station but has also reduced the reputation that it once had with the people of Queanbeyan to gutter trash .

The fact that the majority of people making the big comments on this subject are “Newbies”, toughenup, I would suggest that they are people with some interest in or understanding of the situation. While the are undoubtedly putting forward their own view of things, that what this sort of site is for.

So, what is your take?

Toughenup said :

You are kidding yourselfs. Unless any of you know what actually happened and or how the fire bridge work. You’d better do some research people.

Why don’t you enlighten us?

You are kidding yourselfs. Unless any of you know what actually happened and or how the fire bridge work. You’d better do some research people.

hot heads said :

Whether or not Permanent firies belong at Queanbeyan is a question clearly being asked by locals. I would like to highlight that Permanent firemen usually operate in metropolitan areas under the constant gaze of peers and superiors. In such situations, all personnel are routinely transferred to other stations and get to work with a variety of colleagues.. This level of supervision, support and cross-pollination helps to level the playing field and alleviate the ‘kingly’ status some would seek to otherwise gain. If we look to our system of government, we see the need for regular review and change. In a small organism, such as the fire brigade,permanent firies not only bond in their firefighting tasks but eat, sleep and live together much of the time. This closed capsule can lead to an unhealthy alliance of inwardly looking, self-serving behaviours such as those now being revealed at Queanbeyan. These people are public servants – not self-servants and a de-throning or two may help them to remember who pays their wages!

Do Permanent fire fighters belong at Queanbeyan .

The over all question to be answered for Queanbeyan fire station is can it provide a fire service for the town of Queanbeyan with a reasonable response time to business and also to residential properties on a 24 / 7 basis . firstly in the day time and then at night and also a 100 percent guarantee that an appliance will respond when required . with just part time fire fighters there is no 100 percent guarantee . remember Queanbeyan is a city that employs a large number of people and has a large population . with just part time fire fighters it can meet the requirements how ever it cant give a 100 percent guarantee for a response .

How ever the situation of a 100 percent guaranteed response time would have been easily fixed by sending the permanent fire fighters home to Sydney and by using a cross boarder memorandum of under standing between the act fb and nsw fb and by placing more station officers at the fire station and making some of the part time fire fighters full time . the fire levy for residences would have remained the same . Queanbeyan did once have one of the best fire stations with a well trained crew and 4 fire trucks – lets hope that one day Queanbeyan can again be proud of its fire station .

Whether or not Permanent firies belong at Queanbeyan is a question clearly being asked by locals. I would like to highlight that Permanent firemen usually operate in metropolitan areas under the constant gaze of peers and superiors. In such situations, all personnel are routinely transferred to other stations and get to work with a variety of colleagues.. This level of supervision, support and cross-pollination helps to level the playing field and alleviate the ‘kingly’ status some would seek to otherwise gain. If we look to our system of government, we see the need for regular review and change. In a small organism, such as the fire brigade,permanent firies not only bond in their firefighting tasks but eat, sleep and live together much of the time. This closed capsule can lead to an unhealthy alliance of inwardly looking, self-serving behaviours such as those now being revealed at Queanbeyan. These people are public servants – not self-servants and a de-throning or two may help them to remember who pays their wages!

Crikey said :

There has been a lot of talk around town that a hand full of bully boys are running the Queanbeyan Station like a ‘club-med’, running personal errands in the fire trucks, long coffee breaks and lunches while on duty and bastardisation of the volunteer fire fighters.

This all pretty embarrassing for local Member Steve Whan as it’s all happening under his watch and he’s their Minister too. Apparently, he is frightened to act as it will upset the Union movement.

There is no reason for the local Member to be embarrassed other than for what the permanent fire fighters have done – the town of queanbeyan has been placed in a position where it has 2 fire crews – a permanent fire crew and a part time fire crew – its true that the permanent fire fighters lack the dedication and community spirit of that of the part time fire fighters and if you look back at the history of queanbeyan fire station you will find the facts are correct .

• This fire station would have operated fine if the nsw fb had placed 4 station officers back to back at the station and offered the positions of permanent fire fighter to the fire fighters that were already employed as part time fire fighters at the station .

• In the past The nsw fb did expect the part time fire fighters to operate and do the same job drive and operate the same equipment as the now permanent fire fighters do . there is no difference at all to the work apart from the pay . how ever the nsw fb doesn’t offer the opportunity to the part time fire fighters to become permanent fire fighters at there own fire station after some had been employed there for over 10 years . – so wrong –

• Years ago There was going to be a police rescue squad placed in queanbeyan how ever after the effort put in by the people of queanbeyan and the part time fire fighters it was made possible for the fire station to operate as a primary rescue station and that is why it is a primary rescue station today . remember the original rescue equipment for the city of queanbeyan was paid for by the people of queanbeyan and also by money raised by the part time fire fighters this totaled about $ 30,000:00 . and now the permanent fire fighters are using it –

bd84 said :

From what I hear there is a culture of harassment within the station where the permanent members treat part time members like a piece of crap for being part time members, despite the fact that the majority of the part timers all work full time elsewhere and give up their time to assist the full time members. The fight sounds like the result the accumulation of anger from the abuse being dealt out.

no – The issue isn’t that – its that the permanent crew should not even be at the station – the job of manning the fire station on a 24 hour 7 day a week basis should have been offered to the fire fighters that are already employed . they do the same job and carry the same responsibility’s and take the same risks . what a crazy system . no wonder the nsw fb has this issue it caused it , sad :

the town of Queanbeyan once had a great fire brigade that it could be proud of with the best group of well trained fire fighters that knew there area well and were proud of the community they served . they looked after the town of queanbeyan well and had a great working relationship with other agencies in the area – the fire fighters always acted with the community in mind in a smart and professional manor – sadly it has now lost them – yes they might have been known as volunteer fire fighters how ever they looked after the city on a 24 hour basis 7 days a week and never embarrassed the city of Queanbeyan . the town of queanbeyan now relies on the permanent replacement crews that were sent from Sydney with the purpose of having fire fighters manning the fire station all the time . a big mistake they should have used the fire fighters they already had and built on that . The best thing for the town of Queanbeyan would be for all the permanent fire fighters to pack up and return to Sydney end of story . the over all people to blame for this are the nsw fb who took the jobs of the fire fighters it already had and replaced them with a permanent crew that are no better trained and don’t even know the area they work in .

From what I hear there is a culture of harassment within the station where the permanent members treat part time members like a piece of crap for being part time members, despite the fact that the majority of the part timers all work full time elsewhere and give up their time to assist the full time members. The fight sounds like the result the accumulation of anger from the abuse being dealt out.

Time to clean house by the sound of it. Firies play an important role in the community, and are looked up to by many. This kind of behaviour is completely unacceptable – the troublemakers need to go.

There has been a lot of talk around town that a hand full of bully boys are running the Queanbeyan Station like a ‘club-med’, running personal errands in the fire trucks, long coffee breaks and lunches while on duty and bastardisation of the volunteer fire fighters.

This all pretty embarrassing for local Member Steve Whan as it’s all happening under his watch and he’s their Minister too. Apparently, he is frightened to act as it will upset the Union movement.