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Burch begins to fall from her perch

By clinton9988 14 January 2015 33

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Chief Minister Andrew Barr has put his foot down on Minister for Racing and Gaming Joy Burch’s plan to scrap the twenty-dollar limit on poker machines, a move that would have allowed gamblers to use $50 notes. Ms Burch made the change on 22 December, the very day before Andrew Barr became the Leader of the Labor Party. It is well-known that Chief Minister Andrew Barr wants to see a significant reduction in poker machines from nearly 5,000 to 4,000 in the ACT by 2018. But the revelation that Burch attempted to relax restrictions on the regulations surrounding poker machine laws has contradicted Barr’s desired message. Particularly damaging for Burch is that Barr was kept in the dark.

ACT Labor currently owns 488 poker machines. The machines generate around $25 million dollars per year. The ACT has more poker machines compared to its population than any other jurisdiction in Australia except for NSW which has more machines compared to its population than any other jurisdiction in the world. Australian state and territory governments are as addicted to the revenue of poker machines as the people who use them, and Joy Burch has highlighted this ugly truth to the dissatisfaction of pretty much everyone except perhaps for the Clubs ACT chief executive Jeff House, with whom she made the deal.

Earlier this week Burch and House both made the argument that the introduction of the $50 note to ACT poker machines was justified as ATMs in clubs can only dispense a maximum of $250, and that only stocking ATMs with $20 was an unaffordable burden for clubs. Community and advocacy groups, politicians, and even senior Labor figures saw through this argument like cellophane.

Senator Nick Xenophon, gambling researcher Dr Charles Livingstone, and leader of the opposition Jeremy Hanson have all lined up to condemn Burch’s actions and ACT Labor’s reliance on poker machines. And to cap off the condemnation, former chief minister Jon Stanhope has put a motion to his Mount Rogers sub-branch calling for the clubs to be sold – an action that has angered ACT Labor secretary Matt Byrne. If the motion was adopted by the party it would effectively divorce Labor from poker machines all together. That it not going to happen.

Yesterday, Barr forced Burch to backflip on the issue by releasing a joint statement reneging on Burch’s unilateral decision. The statement read, “As a result of discussion within the community over the past few days, the Government has decided to withdraw the regulation which allowed $50 note acceptors on electronic gaming machines in the ACT pending further work on practices in other states and implementation of cash input limits.”

Throughout the past year, Burch has undoubtedly caused more headaches for the government than any other MLA. She has made a series of blunders throughout her term so far. She has “accidentally” tweeted that Christopher Pyne was a c***. She has snubbed the advice of her education directorate by granting approval for an independent school which has now been deemed unsuitable for registration. And among many other misjudgements, Burch continues to receive criticism for handpicking last year’s director of the Fringe at the Multicultural Festival instead of tendering the position.

A senior Labor staffer yesterday revealed to The RiotACT that Joy Burch is no longer under the protection of former chief minister Katy Gallagher.

“Joy is no longer enjoying her job,” he said. “She dislikes public functions and avoids them as much as she can. She will either resign or not contest the next election. It is time for her to go.”


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Masquara 6:56 pm 17 Jan 15

bigcohuna1 said :

so…the minister for Police, Racing and Gambling, who’s Party also gets funded by its own clubs which have a large slice of poker machine licences, just wants to “clear her desk” of pesky things that need to be signed off before the party period, is backed up in signing the regs by the Attorney General???

sounds like we have a new Queensland

🙂

Now you mention it, Burch bears more than a passing resemblance to Russ Hinze.

Blen_Carmichael 8:15 am 17 Jan 15

“Joy is no longer enjoying her job,” he said. “She dislikes public functions and avoids them as much as she can.”

And that’s probably a wise decision, given this occurred on a Friday night:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/06/should-be-gonski-act-minister-in-trouble-after-x-rated-retweet-on-pyne

Blen_Carmichael 7:32 am 17 Jan 15

John Hargreaves said :

But let me sound a word of warning to the “senior Labor staffer” who dribbled off at the mouth. If I find out who you are and I am looking, I will deal with you the way Paul Keating taught me. I will do you and I will do you slowly.

This sounds like a script for the Razzies.

Fair 8:53 pm 16 Jan 15

So, Labor Clubs have pokies, which help fund the local ALP.
So, is it fair to that if people can loose their money 2.5 times quicker, then Joys team will raise “donations” 2.5 x quicker?
Or am I being too simplistic?

dungfungus 9:15 pm 15 Jan 15

carpediem said :

I visited my local club (Raiders Belconnen) yesterday and was very surprised to see signs on every poker machine boasting they can now take $50 notes. So, given that the new regulations that have already been withdrawn have already been implemented, i’ll be interested to see how they are now un-implemented.

Another note… the regulations were withdrawn on 13th, yet I could have used a $50 note yesterday, on the 14th, if so chose.

Food for thought.

The Minister for Police should be notified.

carpediem 1:16 pm 15 Jan 15

I visited my local club (Raiders Belconnen) yesterday and was very surprised to see signs on every poker machine boasting they can now take $50 notes. So, given that the new regulations that have already been withdrawn have already been implemented, i’ll be interested to see how they are now un-implemented.

Another note… the regulations were withdrawn on 13th, yet I could have used a $50 note yesterday, on the 14th, if so chose.

Food for thought.

bigcohuna1 11:37 am 15 Jan 15

so…the minister for Police, Racing and Gambling, who’s Party also gets funded by its own clubs which have a large slice of poker machine licences, just wants to “clear her desk” of pesky things that need to be signed off before the party period, is backed up in signing the regs by the Attorney General???

sounds like we have a new Queensland

🙂

bigcohuna1 11:34 am 15 Jan 15

in the days of the workers paradise, ministers who did their own thing, even if the Party normally stood to benefit, but were found out to have put the comrade chairman in a publicly bad position, would have…disappeared from central committee meetings for good……………….why the change here?

miz 7:06 am 15 Jan 15

Reprobate said :

Joy Burch is exactly what makes me worry about with the push for an increase of members and Ministers in the Assembly. When someone of her skill set can somehow get a Ministerial position, god help us all when even more oily local party grafters, time servers and hangers-on get foisted on us…

I add, ‘who don’t bother seeking the views of the community.’ Ms Burch rarely turns up at Tuggeranong Community Council, unlike other MLAs, because if she did she would have to be accountable for her actions (which is what she gets paid for). She is last on my ballot paper.

watto23 9:30 pm 14 Jan 15

chewy14 said :

The $20 limit is ridiculous nanny statism at its worst and Burch was right to get rid of it (probably the only good thing she’s ever done).

And why are the Liberals, the party of individual freedoms, against this? Because it’s politically convenient. Hypocrites all.

Kind of agree. I understand why people want them banned. But a lot of that money earned from poker machines actually goes to the community also. A lot of sporting clubs would probably cease to exist. It is hypocritical though to have them readily available in clubs and not the casino.

I know the coalition want to destroy clubs, because they are a big donor to Labor. Its not about helping people with a gambling problem, many of whom gamble on all sorts of things.
Personally I want all political donations disclosed clearly and easily available for the public to know who donated to who so we can see exactly why governments have their ideological driven agendas at all costs.

Steven Bailey 9:29 pm 14 Jan 15

John Hargreaves said :

Hi there Dungfungus and Masquara – my two biggest fans. This is gunna surprise you but I don’t spend all day glued to the computer/phone trolling about looking for cr*p to spread.

I saw the article on Joy Burch today just now and I have to say what a lot of hysteria whipped up by a salivating bunch of hypocrites. We see political vultures and hyenas waiting for carrion. Unbecoming if I might say so.

Ministers have responsibilities and they must discharge them to the best of their ability. They shouldn’t have to seek the permission of the first minister in each case. And they shouldn’t need to get the OK from another minister of another political persuasion with noting to do with the portfolio.

Let’s put some perspective here. The $50 bit was part of a reform package. Get it? Package!. It was Ms Burch’s decision after advice from her office that the package could be rolled out piecemeal. And so she did. The crime? nothing!

If Cabinet is going to decide the minutiae of each portfolio, they will never see the light of day.

There are always people who disagree with policy positions taken by government and that is healthy. What is not healthy is the way the nasty vociferous minority of head hunting, tall poppy cutters dine out on the smallest of differences.

In the grand scheme of things this is small change. How about some credit for the NDIS reforms, how about some credit for the way in which education issues are off the front page, despite the bleatings of Hansen and Co. Just to name two.

But let me sound a word of warning to the “senior Labor staffer” who dribbled off at the mouth. If I find out who you are and I am looking, I will deal with you the way Paul Keating taught me. I will do you and I will do you slowly. Because you are a rat and Labor hates rats more than anything, including Liberals.

This is just a distraction from the ineffective way the Opposition are “holding the Government to account”. The Leader of the Opposition puts out a media release from his holiday and his colleagues are nowhere to be seen. Not heard of either. They have more holidays than schoolies do.

So… Masquara and Dungfungus, happy now?

John, a dead dingo’s donger could’ve seen this blowing up in Labor’s face. As you know, I occupy my mind with more important things than the colour of legal tender inserted into poker machines. I have respect for Burch but this was most certainly a political miscalculation. Are you angry with Andrew Barr?
You are implying that if a decision is wrapped in a package a minister shouldn’t be held accountable for it. Speaking of packages, how many Labor staffers have you ‘done slowly’?

dungfungus 5:41 pm 14 Jan 15

MERC600 said :

John Hargreaves said :

Hi there Dungfungus and Masquara – my two biggest fans. This is gunna surprise you but I don’t spend all day glued to the computer/phone trolling about looking for cr*p to spread.

I saw the article on Joy Burch today just now and I have to say what a lot of hysteria whipped up by a salivating bunch of hypocrites. We see political vultures and hyenas waiting for carrion. Unbecoming if I might say so.

Ministers have responsibilities and they must discharge them to the best of their ability. They shouldn’t have to seek the permission of the first minister in each case. And they shouldn’t need to get the OK from another minister of another political persuasion with noting to do with the portfolio.

Let’s put some perspective here. The $50 bit was part of a reform package. Get it? Package!. It was Ms Burch’s decision after advice from her office that the package could be rolled out piecemeal. And so she did. The crime? nothing!

If Cabinet is going to decide the minutiae of each portfolio, they will never see the light of day.

There are always people who disagree with policy positions taken by government and that is healthy. What is not healthy is the way the nasty vociferous minority of head hunting, tall poppy cutters dine out on the smallest of differences.

In the grand scheme of things this is small change. How about some credit for the NDIS reforms, how about some credit for the way in which education issues are off the front page, despite the bleatings of Hansen and Co. Just to name two.

But let me sound a word of warning to the “senior Labor staffer” who dribbled off at the mouth. If I find out who you are and I am looking, I will deal with you the way Paul Keating taught me. I will do you and I will do you slowly. Because you are a rat and Labor hates rats more than anything, including Liberals.

This is just a distraction from the ineffective way the Opposition are “holding the Government to account”. The Leader of the Opposition puts out a media release from his holiday and his colleagues are nowhere to be seen. Not heard of either. They have more holidays than schoolies do.

So… Masquara and Dungfungus, happy now?

So John it seems you must still have an ‘in’ with our assembly if as you mention ” If I find out who you are and I am looking ” .. I for one thought you had retired and your regular features to Riot were free of assembly influence. Bit disappointed.

He’s got the secret electoral roll CD out again.

HiddenDragon 5:33 pm 14 Jan 15

“…A senior Labor staffer yesterday revealed to The RiotACT that Joy Burch is no longer under the protection of former chief minister Katy Gallagher….”

“under the protection of” – what a wonderful turn of phrase – like something out of Le Carre! Looking forward to much more of this “well placed source” stuff as we stagger towards the 2016 Territory election.

tuco 5:22 pm 14 Jan 15

gazket said :

John Hargreaves said :

But let me sound a word of warning to the “senior Labor staffer” who dribbled off at the mouth. If I find out who you are and I am looking, I will deal with you the way Paul Keating taught me. I will do you and I will do you slowly. Because you are a rat and Labor hates rats more than anything, including Liberals.

I call shenanigans
Labor and rats, closer than you think.
https://alanknight.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/kingrat.jpg

I am still laughing at the warning. Line up the wet lettuce please. Seriously – this is what passes for political debate?

chewy14 4:22 pm 14 Jan 15

The $20 limit is ridiculous nanny statism at its worst and Burch was right to get rid of it (probably the only good thing she’s ever done).

And why are the Liberals, the party of individual freedoms, against this? Because it’s politically convenient. Hypocrites all.

MERC600 4:17 pm 14 Jan 15

John Hargreaves said :

Hi there Dungfungus and Masquara – my two biggest fans. This is gunna surprise you but I don’t spend all day glued to the computer/phone trolling about looking for cr*p to spread.

I saw the article on Joy Burch today just now and I have to say what a lot of hysteria whipped up by a salivating bunch of hypocrites. We see political vultures and hyenas waiting for carrion. Unbecoming if I might say so.

Ministers have responsibilities and they must discharge them to the best of their ability. They shouldn’t have to seek the permission of the first minister in each case. And they shouldn’t need to get the OK from another minister of another political persuasion with noting to do with the portfolio.

Let’s put some perspective here. The $50 bit was part of a reform package. Get it? Package!. It was Ms Burch’s decision after advice from her office that the package could be rolled out piecemeal. And so she did. The crime? nothing!

If Cabinet is going to decide the minutiae of each portfolio, they will never see the light of day.

There are always people who disagree with policy positions taken by government and that is healthy. What is not healthy is the way the nasty vociferous minority of head hunting, tall poppy cutters dine out on the smallest of differences.

In the grand scheme of things this is small change. How about some credit for the NDIS reforms, how about some credit for the way in which education issues are off the front page, despite the bleatings of Hansen and Co. Just to name two.

But let me sound a word of warning to the “senior Labor staffer” who dribbled off at the mouth. If I find out who you are and I am looking, I will deal with you the way Paul Keating taught me. I will do you and I will do you slowly. Because you are a rat and Labor hates rats more than anything, including Liberals.

This is just a distraction from the ineffective way the Opposition are “holding the Government to account”. The Leader of the Opposition puts out a media release from his holiday and his colleagues are nowhere to be seen. Not heard of either. They have more holidays than schoolies do.

So… Masquara and Dungfungus, happy now?

So John it seems you must still have an ‘in’ with our assembly if as you mention ” If I find out who you are and I am looking ” .. I for one thought you had retired and your regular features to Riot were free of assembly influence. Bit disappointed.

gazket 4:09 pm 14 Jan 15

John Hargreaves said :

But let me sound a word of warning to the “senior Labor staffer” who dribbled off at the mouth. If I find out who you are and I am looking, I will deal with you the way Paul Keating taught me. I will do you and I will do you slowly. Because you are a rat and Labor hates rats more than anything, including Liberals.

I call shenanigans
Labor and rats, closer than you think.
https://alanknight.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/kingrat.jpg

dungfungus 4:04 pm 14 Jan 15

John Hargreaves said :

Hi there Dungfungus and Masquara – my two biggest fans. This is gunna surprise you but I don’t spend all day glued to the computer/phone trolling about looking for cr*p to spread.

I saw the article on Joy Burch today just now and I have to say what a lot of hysteria whipped up by a salivating bunch of hypocrites. We see political vultures and hyenas waiting for carrion. Unbecoming if I might say so.

Ministers have responsibilities and they must discharge them to the best of their ability. They shouldn’t have to seek the permission of the first minister in each case. And they shouldn’t need to get the OK from another minister of another political persuasion with noting to do with the portfolio.

Let’s put some perspective here. The $50 bit was part of a reform package. Get it? Package!. It was Ms Burch’s decision after advice from her office that the package could be rolled out piecemeal. And so she did. The crime? nothing!

If Cabinet is going to decide the minutiae of each portfolio, they will never see the light of day.

There are always people who disagree with policy positions taken by government and that is healthy. What is not healthy is the way the nasty vociferous minority of head hunting, tall poppy cutters dine out on the smallest of differences.

In the grand scheme of things this is small change. How about some credit for the NDIS reforms, how about some credit for the way in which education issues are off the front page, despite the bleatings of Hansen and Co. Just to name two.

But let me sound a word of warning to the “senior Labor staffer” who dribbled off at the mouth. If I find out who you are and I am looking, I will deal with you the way Paul Keating taught me. I will do you and I will do you slowly. Because you are a rat and Labor hates rats more than anything, including Liberals.

This is just a distraction from the ineffective way the Opposition are “holding the Government to account”. The Leader of the Opposition puts out a media release from his holiday and his colleagues are nowhere to be seen. Not heard of either. They have more holidays than schoolies do.

So… Masquara and Dungfungus, happy now?

Don’t know about you Masquara, but I more bemused than happy.

Masquara 3:56 pm 14 Jan 15

John you didn’t answer the question. What is your view on the ‘reform’ as you put it? Do you support enabling pokie addicts by allowing more money to be fed through the machines more quickly? If so, what is the basis for your position? If not, why not be honest and abandon your Labor Apparatchik pretensions on an issue that goes to the heart of welfare among your underprivileged former constituents.

John Hargreaves 3:20 pm 14 Jan 15

Hi there Dungfungus and Masquara – my two biggest fans. This is gunna surprise you but I don’t spend all day glued to the computer/phone trolling about looking for cr*p to spread.

I saw the article on Joy Burch today just now and I have to say what a lot of hysteria whipped up by a salivating bunch of hypocrites. We see political vultures and hyenas waiting for carrion. Unbecoming if I might say so.

Ministers have responsibilities and they must discharge them to the best of their ability. They shouldn’t have to seek the permission of the first minister in each case. And they shouldn’t need to get the OK from another minister of another political persuasion with noting to do with the portfolio.

Let’s put some perspective here. The $50 bit was part of a reform package. Get it? Package!. It was Ms Burch’s decision after advice from her office that the package could be rolled out piecemeal. And so she did. The crime? nothing!

If Cabinet is going to decide the minutiae of each portfolio, they will never see the light of day.

There are always people who disagree with policy positions taken by government and that is healthy. What is not healthy is the way the nasty vociferous minority of head hunting, tall poppy cutters dine out on the smallest of differences.

In the grand scheme of things this is small change. How about some credit for the NDIS reforms, how about some credit for the way in which education issues are off the front page, despite the bleatings of Hansen and Co. Just to name two.

But let me sound a word of warning to the “senior Labor staffer” who dribbled off at the mouth. If I find out who you are and I am looking, I will deal with you the way Paul Keating taught me. I will do you and I will do you slowly. Because you are a rat and Labor hates rats more than anything, including Liberals.

This is just a distraction from the ineffective way the Opposition are “holding the Government to account”. The Leader of the Opposition puts out a media release from his holiday and his colleagues are nowhere to be seen. Not heard of either. They have more holidays than schoolies do.

So… Masquara and Dungfungus, happy now?

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