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Burlesque too racy for the festival?

johnboy 15 February 2009 44

[First filed: February 14, 2009 @ 13:24]

The Canberra Times reports that the Office of Multicultural, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Affairs is up in arms about the burlesque component of the Fringe Festival.

While I personally find burlesque a bit dull, basically drag shows with women, the parts I’ve seen both on opening night when this photo was taken, and last night, have been pretty tame.

Whether breasts with pasties on constitutes nudity is a point that various courts and censors have debated at length and it seems to be OK.

Last night certainly saw a huge crowd packed into the tent enjoying the entertainment.

On the other hand when you take the Government money to put on an event you do become beholden to wider community views.

Do burlesque performances in public places offend you? Would you like to see more of it? Should it be confined to paying 16+ customers?

Burlesque at a Government funded festival

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Thumper Thumper 2:12 pm 14 Feb 09

Brilliant. I loved it. If you are offended then don’t go.

Hey, I can’t stand the summernats but i’m happy for it to go ahead.

bloodnut bloodnut 2:22 pm 14 Feb 09

Personally I am comfortable with the human form – additionally I find it amusing that that anyone who has criticisms of burlesque misses the sweet irony in the fact that the act itself holds their views up for ridicule as antiquated vestiges of the 1950s.

That said, I know there’s at least one liberal fossil shuffling his intellectual zimmerframe around the RA site who even finds the male chest offensive.

phototext phototext 2:24 pm 14 Feb 09

“Mr Manikis said, ”The funding and approvals provided by the ACT Government for the event is conditional on the reputation of the ACT Government not being brought into disrepute.””

I hardly think that some scantily clad females performing burlesque could darken the ACT Governments reputation any more than the current bunch of clowns in power have been doing.

bloodnut bloodnut 2:32 pm 14 Feb 09

phototext said :

I hardly think that some scantily clad females performing burlesque could darken the ACT Governments reputation any more than the current bunch of clowns in power have been doing.

Indeed its geographic location may constitute as a lap dance for the Legislative Assembley.

phototext phototext 2:43 pm 14 Feb 09

They may be getting their French mixed up and confusing Burlesque for Coup d’etat.

New Yeah New Yeah 3:34 pm 14 Feb 09

The MC said last night, this event was for people who like “brains with boobs”. Do the avant soundtracks and costumes, magic and comedy acts make burlesque more acceptable than other forms of adult entertainment? I’m not sure.

But I agree with JB, it was a bit slow at times, and truth be told, about as sexually provocative as posters you see in shops around town. You would see more flesh per person at the pool or at the beach.

My favourite act were Tthe Town Bikes’. Doing a grinding numchuck-infused routine to a cabaret/jazz version of Michael Jackson’s ‘Beat It’ certainly satisfied my thirst for fringe entertainment.

R. Slicker R. Slicker 3:35 pm 14 Feb 09

phototext said :

“Mr Manikis said, ”The funding and approvals provided by the ACT Government for the event is conditional on the reputation of the ACT Government not being brought into disrepute.””

I hardly think that some scantily clad females performing burlesque could darken the ACT Governments reputation any more than the current bunch of clowns in power have been doing.

. . . or statues of Al Grassby.

Pommy bastard Pommy bastard 3:36 pm 14 Feb 09

But, but , but, it’s demeaning to women…

And it sets stereotypical body type which some might not be able to live up to…

cranky cranky 3:41 pm 14 Feb 09

Slightly OT.

I am finding that my opinion is usually 180 degrees to that of the Labor minister mentioned in the CT article above.

I certainly dont feel that out of sync with the world in general.

johnboy johnboy 4:10 pm 14 Feb 09

Pommy bastard said :

But, but , but, it’s demeaning to women…

And it sets stereotypical body type which some might not be able to live up to…

Get with the program PB. Burlesque is a celebration of femininity and empowering and ironic, or somesuch.

At least that’s what the sisters tell me.

Anyway I’d like to be clear that my personal boredom with it is not to say others can’t like it or shouldn’t get the chance to see it at the Fringe.

I’m just not sure it’s worth the festival dying in a ditch for.

sepi sepi 4:11 pm 14 Feb 09

They need to give up trying to run an arts and multicultural festival if they can’t cope with artistic nudity. They should just rename the multicultural festival as the food and wine frolic and be done with it. No wonder Dominic Mico moved on.

I thought only nutbag americans were horrified by nude art.

PB – actually art nudes are not generally anorexia inducing, or offensive to women.

It is gratuitous female nudity aimed soley at men that do those things. There is a difference between objectification of women as bodies, or just body parts, and intelligent women doing burlesque.

It is interesting that Mssrs Hargreaves and Manikis are offended by these women performing burlesque for a mixed audience, and not by the sleazy phone sex ads we get on telly after 10.

sepi sepi 4:19 pm 14 Feb 09

and this lot gave act govt money to summernats, so what does that mean – female nakedness is only ok if it is performed for screaming drooling knucledraggers.

Skidbladnir Skidbladnir 5:04 pm 14 Feb 09

Tell me, if they were tableux vivant, would they be bringing us into disrepute also?
Or are we going to go back even further than the “If they move its rude, otherwise they’re no more offensive than statues” of 1930s England?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windmill_Theatre

PS: If they ddn’t want controversy and debate over art, why advertise and support it as a Fringe Festival?

Ozhair Ozhair 5:34 pm 14 Feb 09

Sounds like another Jorian Gardner beatup to me.

Pommy bastard Pommy bastard 5:36 pm 14 Feb 09

johnboy said :

Get with the program PB. Burlesque is a celebration of femininity and empowering and ironic, or somesuch.

At least that’s what the sisters tell me.

The sisters confuse the hell out of me then John. 🙂

eh_steve eh_steve 5:37 pm 14 Feb 09

I don’t see what the problem is on either side. They say there the letter is from 29 December, so it isn’t like it is in response to anything that has happened during the festival.

Like it or lump it, if nudity is involved the laws change, especially if there is booze for sale, not sure if there is at the fringe. This is just a government official getting written confirmation of something that was said verbally, so that if something illegal happens, he has covered his arse. Happens every day. It would be interesting to see the rest of text if the couple of paras quoted were the most controversial, I bet the rest if it said it was just a letter for confirmation’s sake. Anyway.

Clearly nobody has a problem with it, otherwise they wouldn’t have provided money in the first place. It certainly doesn’t seem to warrant hysterics in the Canberra Times…

Pandy Pandy 5:40 pm 14 Feb 09

Very girly women do burlesque to empower their sexuality.

Pommy bastard Pommy bastard 5:41 pm 14 Feb 09

All power to them then! (In a non-sexist, women empowering, we are lesbians hear us roar, sort of way.)

Tracker Tracker 5:43 pm 14 Feb 09

Where’s the option for more photo’s?

Pandy Pandy 5:45 pm 14 Feb 09

I can assure you that they are not all lesbians. Nor are they all hoes.

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