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Bus Depot Markets without the bus depot?

johnboy 18 August 2009 45

[First Filed – August 17, 2009 @ 10:11]

The Canberra Times brings word that the Gubbmint is planning to tear down the old Kingston bus depot to flog off the land for yuppie hutches.

The plan is to throw up some form of building to house the markets down by the lake.

    If a new building is approved, the markets will be run from an undercover car park for 12 months until the construction finishes. The ACT Heritage Council has decided the 1940s buildings, which were once used to service Canberra’s buses, lack the historical or architectural value to warrant listing on the Heritage Register.

Heresy? Or who cares?

Moving the bus depot markets

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UPDATE: With the ABC Mr Stanhope is trying to distance himself from the proposal while he figures out just how unpopular it would be.


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cupcakes 6:54 pm 30 Oct 09

Sigh again.

Having only been in Canberra 18 months, now regulars at old bus depot markets. Stanhope there’s plenty of room for expansion or a modern addition to the building.

We need to have somewhere with atmosphere and character/charm to go to. Please don’t ruin it – just to develop more residential.

Canberra needs all the character and older buildings it can get!

h2obubbles 9:49 pm 13 Sep 09

So the building was never a bus depot, seems silly to want to preserve a shed with no character that is hardly compatible with health and safety standards.

Whereas the old powerhouse next-door is a building with character.

This could be a perfect opportunity for a fresh new weekly market!

George D 5:22 pm 25 Aug 09

Who cares? Demolish them. Heck, demolish everything in Canberra.

GB 10:49 pm 20 Aug 09

Ugly, leaky apartments = bad. But the BDM could hardly be accused of having a creative edge — more an excellent commercial opportunity well taken by its enterpreneurs, who have in turn enabled a whole bunch of stallholders — from great to lousy, and from creative to crass – to make a living.

Now, if they wanted a creative edge, they could host a fringe festival…

Thumper 7:46 pm 20 Aug 09

Last time I looked it was very structurally sound…

And being used.

Genie 4:44 pm 20 Aug 09

Thumper said :

Argggg enough with Heritage listing everything… Give it 100 years and everything will be heritage listed, in other words old, decrepit and utterly useless. Just like the houses on the highway to Cooma.

Go for a walk around Canberra. Not much stuff older than about the 1970s. Which is why we need to hang onto whatever heritage we have. Once it is gone, it’s not coming back.

If a building is old and falling down and unlivable like some other places they heritage list around the country – whats the point !? Yay old feral building that the spiders live in.

Buzz2600 3:00 pm 20 Aug 09

Yet another profit driven idea from Stanhope – kill anything that has a creative edge to it & build more ugly, leaky apartments. The Old Bus Depot Markets without the Old Bus Depot is just yet another bunch of people selling stuff we dont need. I frequent the OBDM regularly and really love it! I’ve taken many out-of-towners to the OBDM, who have been over the moon to find Canberra does have a creative, artist high-quality market located in a historic building. That’s a big deal for Canberra – why is that so difficult for Stanhope to understand?? Surely there’s enough room in this town to keep the OBDM and have Lake side markets on Saturdays, during summer or special occasions too?

peterh 9:07 am 19 Aug 09

Thumper said :

Argggg enough with Heritage listing everything… Give it 100 years and everything will be heritage listed, in other words old, decrepit and utterly useless. Just like the houses on the highway to Cooma.

Go for a walk around Canberra. Not much stuff older than about the 1970s. Which is why we need to hang onto whatever heritage we have. Once it is gone, it’s not coming back.

with our birthday coming up soon, wouldn’t our mighty leader want to have some old buildings around to show the stages that canberra has gone through to become the city it is now? or is it all about bigger buildings, darkened paths and no soul?

Thumper 8:08 am 19 Aug 09

Argggg enough with Heritage listing everything… Give it 100 years and everything will be heritage listed, in other words old, decrepit and utterly useless. Just like the houses on the highway to Cooma.

Go for a walk around Canberra. Not much stuff older than about the 1970s. Which is why we need to hang onto whatever heritage we have. Once it is gone, it’s not coming back.

I-filed 10:59 pm 18 Aug 09

dusty said :

The Nazi Gals (OBDM) were offered their pick of replacement sites at a nominal price (it used to cost them about $40 per weekend back then as I remember) chose the current premises and took the name Old Bus Depot Markets with them.

It’s probably worth mentioning that I understand they are former ACT Government employees, or the partners of such … Does anyone know their story and whether that’s true? I expect the govt files are marked commercial-in-confidence.

Genie 9:51 pm 18 Aug 09

I’m all for saving interesting pieces of history, but you can’t save everything just because they happen to be more than 50 years old.

Totally. And yet those horrible eyesores of Government housing on Northbourne avenue are worth preserving apparently.

Argggg enough with Heritage listing everything… Give it 100 years and everything will be heritage listed, in other words old, decrepit and utterly useless. Just like the houses on the highway to Cooma.

As for the OBD, its a shed. An eyesore and a dump. Knock it down fast !

dusty 9:37 pm 18 Aug 09

May I please point out that the current building that houses the “Bus Depot Markets” was NOT and NEVER was the bus depot at all.
Those who were in Canberra way back around 1996 may remember that the original Bus Depot Markets were first housed in the actual Old Bus Depot, (opp Cnr Wentworth and Giles). We owned a small business within those premises, under the auspices of the Canberra Business Centre. As the building was slated for demolition by the Carnell government, the building was closed and demolition was complete by about 1997 to make way for the Kingston Foreshore development.
The Nazi Gals (OBDM) were offered their pick of replacement sites at a nominal price (it used to cost them about $40 per weekend back then as I remember) chose the current premises and took the name Old Bus Depot Markets with them.
The current site was actually originally a storage/ workshop facility for the Electricity Department. Lets hope the rent has increased,
Point worth noting, no offer of alternative accomodation was made to the light industrial buinesses within the old Bus Depot, and maby simply packed up and closed, with the exception of the Rock Climbing Business which is still succesfully operating out at Mitchell, I hear.
RIP Bus Depot, but you’re all about 12 years too late unfortunately.

sepi 5:59 pm 18 Aug 09

Honestly I don’t think I would go there much if it was just in some modern shed. Part of the atmosphere is the big old building with the high ceilings and very open at the ends, and the nook underneath for the food stalls. You can’t just whip up genuine atmosphere in a building – not on the cheap anyway.

There is a difference between trash and treasure at Jamison, tuggeranong homestead markets, Albert Hall homemade markets and Kingston markets, and the locations are a big part of that.

(Jamison were in danger of losing their spot recently too I think – is anything happening with that?)

knockknock-eggman 4:17 pm 18 Aug 09

What heritage attraction are we talking about exactly? its an old ass ugly shed…once used to fix buses…gee what a winter wonderland of fun and excitement…

I see the usual suspects using this as an opportunity to take a dump on Stanhope. *bitch bitch whinge whinge* (on repeat) To be honest I don’t know much about the man. I do know from direct personal experiencing he gave the green light to more than enough financial aid to the new caretakers of Tuggeranong Homestead to help restore the buildings/grounds and redirect alot of interest back into the heritage value of it. Im not stroking his ego, its just fact. Surely this act counts for something before you all condemn him to hell (on a side note what is with the lame ‘oh-so-edgy’ voting options)

Im pretty sure the same market goers will still attend the markets if a new building is approved.

Woody Mann-Caruso 1:55 pm 18 Aug 09

Knock it down. It’s just a big ugly shed, and it’s empty six days a week. “Ooh, buses parked there once! You know – BUSES!” BFD.

GardeningGirl 12:37 pm 18 Aug 09

moneypenny2612 said :

Those ‘experts’ of heritage protection have a bad habit of authorising the demolition of a perfectly nice building and replacing it with something butt-ugly.
Where do we start? The Capitol Theatre, the Civic Theatre, the Hotel Civic, the original National Library – all were demonstrative of the distinctive Federal Capital architectural style. Now all gone.

In a city this young it’s a real shame that those buildings with a bit of character are gone 🙁 And the potential of ones that are left is not being realised, eg the Sydney and Melbourne Buildings that sit on either side of the main road into town. The sections aren’t even the same colour!

cranky said :

Having recently taken a cursory interest in the ‘redevelopment’ of the old power station into the Glassworks, I’m not too sure they have got it right. You don’t have to look too closely to see that the joint is still pretty run down, and a coat of paint has done very little. I would suggest that any treatment organised for the bus depot would be similarly halfarsed and underfunded.

I thought maybe the run-down appearance was intentional, to preserve the echoes of the building’s past use and so on. It just made me wonder if anyone remembered to check the old bits of paint for lead?

sharedawealth 12:32 pm 18 Aug 09

All you self interested anti-development posters give this site a bad name.

Jivrashia 12:29 pm 18 Aug 09

It’s an appalling idea to willy-nilly sell off asset, such as the OBD, that belongs to the people of Canberra.

But, other than Sunday Markets and some Saturdays for computer market, is the OBD accommodating any other activities? How much does it cost Canberrans to maintain this building?

Oh wait… update from Canberra Times: Govt backs away from depot plan

(ODB was) not in keeping with the high quality of development elsewhere at Kingston Foreshore

Mr Stanhope, do you have a reference to an expert or organisation who made that statement? Or are you just voicing your own personal opinion?

Primal 8:32 pm 17 Aug 09

sepi said :

Is it someone’s job in ACT govt to find stuff that actually works and that people like, and to ruin it?

EG – Tharwa Primary, Griffith Library, now the bus depot markets.

If Fyshwick mysteriously disappears one night, you’ll know you were right…

sepi 8:09 pm 17 Aug 09

Perhaps other states can learn from this brilliant plan. Paddie’s market in Sydney and the Victoria Markets in innercity Melbourne could both be bulldozed, and quick money made from a few blocks of units.

Oh – except Melbourne and Sydney actually pride themselves on having a bit of character.

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