5 December 2009

but what about the bricks?

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Am thinking of moving to Canberra, and sure the sunsets and fresh air are great, but where can one live there that isnt a dreary suburban house made of sickly coloured bricks?

Is there any wood? mudbrick? any creativity?

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My business Ritchies Recycled Bricks and Pavers predominantly recycles Canberra Red Bricks – these are lovely bricks. We have been cleaning and reselling these wonderful bricks for nearly 15 years and there is no limit to what you can do with them. Extensions to your existing Canberra Red Brick house, paving and driveways – my driveway has had my son in laws Prime Mover parked on them several times and there are no cracks – pizza ovens, feature walls, letter boxes etc etc

Hey Peripat,

As deye suggested the best bid would be to built your own, which certainly takes a bit of planning and of course saving up a bit of money.

Would certainly recommend a mud brick which will be good for insulation as well .

Give them a quick call http://www.mogomudbricks.com.au/

My 2 cents.

Peripat. I tried responding to your enquiry ealier, but for some strange reason it didnt get through. Anyway, I cant be bothered retyping my original post, where I invited you to write to moderator for address of house I know that is made of timber, so I will cut to chase and say that there is nice cedar newish house in Hughes Street Ngunnawal. Try and approach them. Not bothered with keeping address off public domaine on this post attempt.

Thoroughly Smashed4:31 pm 08 Dec 09

I suspect the dearth of wood houses has a lot to do with the market, i.e. people don’t want wood houses. It wouldn’t surprise me if all-wood houses are much more expensive than brick veneer too. That and bricks don’t burn (in Nitrogen and Oxygen anyway).

Gungahlin Al3:28 pm 08 Dec 09

Sustainable House Day always has some good homes on show (even if I say so myself).

There are some nice homes around, but brick veneereal dominates unfortunately. Particularly where large numbers of Defence homes have been rolled out with the only factors considered being cost and speed.

If it’s fibro in Canberra, it’s probably an asbestos risk.

There is plenty of scope to knockdown-rebuild though. When you rebuild you can use any approved building material you care to choose.

There is a few doors down from me a house that uses straw bales for walls. It looks ok. (no jokes about little pigs please)

Build a house out of bricks made from hemp, stronger thann “normal” bricks, enviromentally friendly, and cheaper too, if only we had a legal and viable hemp industry in this country (getting there, fed government has trials underway at least).

spinact said :

trix said :

what’s with building houses without eaves in Australia

I’ve been wondering about that as well. Rendered blue board houses with no eaves yet they get a 5 star energy rating. Somethings not right there.

There’s something not right with a lot of energy efficiency ratings.

trix said :

what’s with building houses without eaves in Australia

I’ve been wondering about that as well. Rendered blue board houses with no eaves yet they get a 5 star energy rating. Somethings not right there.

georgesgenitals7:47 pm 06 Dec 09

deejay said :

Not much that I’ve seen that’s affordable, I’m afraid. Canberra developments are on the ugly side, for the most part, unless you can afford a nice little 1930s number in Ainslie or Yarralumla.

If you want character homes, and aren’t afraid to commute, look at Goulburn, Yass, Bungendore, Murrumbateman, and Cooma. Goulburn and Cooma are the best for amenities.

Queanbeyan has some fantastic little red brick homes tcuked away in quiet streets, but its as expensive as Canberra these days.

Thanks for this array of responses…much appreciated…gives me a good overview and I had a good chuckle too 🙂

Thanks for the actual answer, wycx.

That sucks – you’d think they’d come up with a quota of 10% of blocks to be private development or something, i.e. for the owner/resident. It’d certainly lend some diversity to these horrible new suburbs.

Not much that I’ve seen that’s affordable, I’m afraid. Canberra developments are on the ugly side, for the most part, unless you can afford a nice little 1930s number in Ainslie or Yarralumla.

If you want character homes, and aren’t afraid to commute, look at Goulburn, Yass, Bungendore, Murrumbateman, and Cooma. Goulburn and Cooma are the best for amenities. In most of those places (and depending on the size of your car), you’ll save a lot more money on housing than you’ll spend in petrol, too.

Surely everyone thinks you can do a better colour of brick than the ex-gov house brick colour? The govt worked really hard to choose the ugliest colour they could.

trix: If I remember correctly the ACT govt will be releasing a small number of individual blocks in Molonglo for development, but the ACT govt requires you to have everything done within two years. Not so good if you want to do it slow, correctly and without loads of debt.

(In the recent past one or two developers were caught with a bit of land that was well over the two year mark, and I suspect that it was the first time the ACT govt bothered checking in a long time)

there’s a few camping grounds, you could live in a tent 😉

You may be lucky enough to find a gem, but most likely, as has already been said, you’ll have to build it yourself.

There are some interesting houses described here: http://www.canberrahouse.com/

canberra’s famous red bricks are quite fetching – dreary? how?

anyway, if you aren’t so keen, render and paint lime green or something…

Here’s a concrete and weatherboard number. Twice as cheap as the yarralumla one, and more than twice as ugly!
http://www.allhomes.com.au/ah/act/sale-residential/92-macarthur-place-oconnor-canberra/1316742871411

O’Connor has some streets of cute wooden houses or ‘tocumwals’, with wood fires etc. they cost a mint though, as lots of people like them.

Yarralumla used to have some weatherboards, but they are mostly pulled down for units these days. You wont’ buy any house in yarralumla for much short of a million anyway.

Ainslie has a few tocumwals, a few interesting houses (owner built, older and new), and some god-awful train carriage type weatherboard places. Ainslie also has Canberra’s only stainless steel house.

Personally I’d prefer a nice original 30’s style red brick place in Ainslie if I had my pick.

Petrov’s place in griffith came up for sale a couple of years ago – that would class as interesting. Heritage listed though, so you are stuck with a fairly ordinary 50s type place, in a street of more modernised mansions.

A house near me was built with purple rendered polystyrene. Give me boring bricks any day.

No. It is 95% dreary and brick, There is the odd house or two that is rendered and there are the ancient fibre and concrete houses built for the working classes and the families of the military, but that’s about it.

Bricks are made of clay, dear. And if you think the colour of Australia’s red clay is sickly, go tell that to someone in the Outback. Hopefully you’ll get the Wilson Tuckey treatment in response. I wish you a speedy return to whinge to the Cosmic Waste in Nimbin (Smacktown). We Canberrans will settle down to our creative, academic, political, subversive and other happenings of excellence, and will manage just fine without you!

the horror of it all, houses built using bricks!

Houses in most cities in Australia are built using these brick things. Being a younger city than most, there are not many houses built from weatherboards in Canberra. I’m sure there are plenty of small towns in the surrounding NSW region that we can deport you to if you dislike it that much. But then those towns will probably have houses built from boring bricks too..

anonymous gungahlian4:04 pm 05 Dec 09

It depends on what would you classify as a dreary suburban house with sickly coloured bricks.

Hells_Bells744:03 pm 05 Dec 09

Murrumbateman isn’t so far Trix. My mate built a nice place on a small block with innovative blocks (I can’t recall more sorry). Whole thing very cost effective, got to do what he wanted all along. Not sure what’s left though?

A few of the inner South and inner North suburbs have some nice older houses, and there are a -few- architectural gems dotted around. But if you’re looking for sustainable architecture, or even the interesting or innovative kind, you’re mostly SoL. Particularly in the cookie-cutter subdivisions, where the houses come in varying degrees of shoddy and boring.

As a question to Canberran natives, when more land gets released for development, is there any that actually gets released to anything other than commercial developers? I would love nothing more than to buy a land parcel and build what I like on it (within regulations, of course. It’d be a shitload better designed for the climate – what’s with building houses without eaves in Australia?). The only land parcels I ever see are for around places like Yass. I don’t want a 10 acre block in the whop-whops.

I’m sure there is some wood houses somewhere, you would want it to be very well insulated though. I have seen mudbrick, there is definitely some creativity here and there. The best bet though is to build your own.

One day I want to get a house built by these guys http://www.unicornhouse.com.au/ but to my design.

I assume that you are moving from Nimbin, and haven’t been in a large town (let alone a city for a few hundred years. Canberra has nice suburbs (unless they were built in the last ten years).

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