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Calvary beats Katy

johnboy 29 April 2011 32

There’s been no media release from Ms Gallagher, but we understand she’s run up the white flag in her battles with Calvary hospital and North Canberra services will be augmented by expansion of the Catholic operated hospital in Bruce.

The Liberals Jeremy Hanson is very excited and points out this capitulation has come at a cost:

“Katy Gallagher has fundamentally botched this entire protracted negotiation process that has seen secret negotiations, threats to limit funding and a downgrading of the overall moral at Calvary Hospital. Ms Gallagher delay in addressing the future needs of Canberra’s hospital system is a complete failure of leadership and has distracted focus away from the current crisis in our health system.

“Having wasted two and a half years and having caused such acrimony and loss of trust with the Little Company of Mary Health Care and sections of the community, Katy Gallagher must now focus on delivering on the health needs of Canberrans, rebuilding trust and finalising a hospital agreement that will deliver much needed beds to the North of Canberra,” Jeremy Hanson said.


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Bosworth Bosworth 4:10 pm 29 Apr 11

Mysteryman said :

Last time I checked they didn’t impose their beliefs on the patients

Mysteryman said :

Nobody has actually listed any of the services the hospital refuses to offer, with the exception of abortion services.

lol contradiction.

Gerry-Built Gerry-Built 4:07 pm 29 Apr 11

Mysteryman said :

Nobody has actually listed any of the services the hospital refuses to offer, with the exception of abortion services. Are there actually any others, or are you all just bashing it because you’re own personal beliefs oppose those of the Catholic church?

Female Sterilisation – unsure of availability at TCH
Male Sterilisation – not offered at TCH from what I understand
Abortion – not offered at TCH from what I understand

Yep – they certainly are missing a whole suite of services due to their moral stance…

Mysteryman Mysteryman 4:05 pm 29 Apr 11

tonkatuff82 said :

Mysteryman said :

What the hell are you two on about? It’s a hospital. They provide health care. Last time I checked they didn’t impose their beliefs on the patients, or turn you away for not being Catholic.

Grow up.

You didn’t really check did you?

They provide health care, I checked. When I was in emergency, they provided it then. They provided it to a number of pregnant women I know who gave birth there. They also provided it to numerous people I’ve visited there who were recovering from operations performed at Calvary.

So yes, last time I checked they DO provide health care. In all my dealings with them, there has never been an issue of religion or beliefs. I can categorically same the same for all those I know who have also received health care at the hospital.

Gerry-Built Gerry-Built 4:03 pm 29 Apr 11

johnboy said :

A cross in every single room?

Besides – you’d probably come away from sighting a crucifix relatively unscathed (assuming you are not a vampire)…

Gerry-Built Gerry-Built 4:01 pm 29 Apr 11

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Nope, that is his MO here, makes wild asumptions and wilder statements without checking the facts, then when called on it, slinks away with some vague insults.

How was that a “wild assumption”? Please explain…

Mysteryman Mysteryman 4:00 pm 29 Apr 11

colourful sydney racing identity said :

tonkatuff82 said :

Mysteryman said :

What the hell are you two on about? It’s a hospital. They provide health care. Last time I checked they didn’t impose their beliefs on the patients, or turn you away for not being Catholic.

Grow up.

You didn’t really check did you?

Nope, that is his MO here, makes wild asumptions and wilder statements without checking the facts, then when called on it, slinks away with some vague insults.

This, from the poster who continuously puts words in the mouths of others in order to support his arguments, without ever contributing anything meaningful to the conversation? Please. I’m yet to see you actually post anything of meaning or significance that wasn’t an attack on another poster.

Nobody has actually listed any of the services the hospital refuses to offer, with the exception of abortion services. Are there actually any others, or are you all just bashing it because you’re own personal beliefs oppose those of the Catholic church?

Gerry-Built Gerry-Built 3:50 pm 29 Apr 11

johnboy said :

A cross in every single room?

…during a family member’s recent protracted stay, and despite several movements of room, she didn’t have a single room with a cross. That said, having a cross in the room is hardly “imposing their beliefs”.

The services Calvary doesn’t offer, are mostly unavailable at The Canberra Hospital too – is there really even a demand for either hospital to deliver them? Do we, really, for peoples’ convenience need to provide, and then duplicate them when they are adequately covered elsewhere already? Especially just for the purpose of getting one up against the Catholics?

The big question should be more about how the ACT Government put the people of the ACT into a situation where a small Catholic-administered hospital can dictate terms to the ACT Government.

chewy14 chewy14 3:48 pm 29 Apr 11

Can someone list the services that Calvary don’t perform because of religious beliefs?

Is it just abortion?

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 3:16 pm 29 Apr 11

tonkatuff82 said :

Mysteryman said :

What the hell are you two on about? It’s a hospital. They provide health care. Last time I checked they didn’t impose their beliefs on the patients, or turn you away for not being Catholic.

Grow up.

You didn’t really check did you?

Nope, that is his MO here, makes wild asumptions and wilder statements without checking the facts, then when called on it, slinks away with some vague insults.

tonkatuff82 tonkatuff82 2:53 pm 29 Apr 11

Mysteryman said :

What the hell are you two on about? It’s a hospital. They provide health care. Last time I checked they didn’t impose their beliefs on the patients, or turn you away for not being Catholic.

Grow up.

You didn’t really check did you?

EvanJames EvanJames 2:43 pm 29 Apr 11

Mysteryman said :

What the hell are you two on about? It’s a hospital. They provide health care. Last time I checked they didn’t impose their beliefs on the patients, or turn you away for not being Catholic.

Grow up.

You don’t know what we’re talking about, do you?

Why don’t you have a look at the services the hospital refuses to offer on religious grounds.

Now, think before you type rude remarks at people.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 2:35 pm 29 Apr 11

mikal said :

johnboy said :

Mysteryman said :

What the hell are you two on about? It’s a hospital. They provide health care. Last time I checked they didn’t impose their beliefs on the patients, or turn you away for not being Catholic.

Grow up.

A cross in every single room?

And a refusal to perform abortion services?

Survey says ‘yes’

Rawhide Kid Part3 Rawhide Kid Part3 2:33 pm 29 Apr 11

Oh well. It looks like a third Hospital could be back on the agenda.

mikal mikal 2:32 pm 29 Apr 11

johnboy said :

Mysteryman said :

What the hell are you two on about? It’s a hospital. They provide health care. Last time I checked they didn’t impose their beliefs on the patients, or turn you away for not being Catholic.

Grow up.

A cross in every single room?

And a refusal to perform abortion services?

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 2:16 pm 29 Apr 11

Mysteryman said :

What the hell are you two on about? It’s a hospital. They provide health care. Last time I checked they didn’t impose their beliefs on the patients, or turn you away for not being Catholic.

Grow up.

Health care with an asterisk.

johnboy johnboy 2:14 pm 29 Apr 11

Mysteryman said :

What the hell are you two on about? It’s a hospital. They provide health care. Last time I checked they didn’t impose their beliefs on the patients, or turn you away for not being Catholic.

Grow up.

A cross in every single room?

Jim Jones Jim Jones 2:14 pm 29 Apr 11

“Never do business with a religious son-of-a-bitch. His word ain’t worth a shit — not with the Good Lord telling him how to f&$k you on the deal.”
William S Burroughs

Mysteryman Mysteryman 2:10 pm 29 Apr 11

What the hell are you two on about? It’s a hospital. They provide health care. Last time I checked they didn’t impose their beliefs on the patients, or turn you away for not being Catholic.

Grow up.

EvanJames EvanJames 1:55 pm 29 Apr 11

Well, the Catholic Church can afford the very best lawyers, after all. The whole thing is pathetic. Freudian slip by Hanson’s presso writers regarding moral/morale? After all, foisting the restrictions of their religion on all patients is morally questionable.

Fiona Fiona 1:39 pm 29 Apr 11

Will then stay southside so my healthcare isn’t governed by a church.

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