31 July 2013

Canberra cop busted for wearing fake medals

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News have word of AFP officer Kelly Wingkee Luk causing a stir with a penchant for wearing medals un-earned:

According to the Australian New Zealand Military Imposters (ANZMI) website, Luk has no entitlement to wear any medals but it has posted images of him wearing numerous medals including the Australian Active Service Medal (AASM) with a clasp and the Australian Defence Medal (ADM).

The Australian Federal Police (AFP) confirmed that Luk was a serving member of their organisation and that he had been disciplined for wearing inappropriate medals.

We don’t know if he’s still with ACT Policing, but he certainly used to be.

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LSWCHP said :

Ghettosmurf87 said :

Perhaps our way of life would be very very different, but who are you to say it would be “worse”? It’s not like Japan doesn’t have some good things going for it as well as some bad things, but it’s hardly a living hell….

It’s hard for me to believe that such abysmal ignorance is prevalent in our society.

Pre WWII Japan was dominated by a bunch of hoods who had taken the Japanese warrior code of Bushido and perverted it for their own use. Those guys were right up there with Hitler and Stalin, and if they had won the war Australia really would have been hell on earth. Just ask anybody from a country that lived through Japanese occupation during the war how they felt about it. Or Google for “Rape of Nanking” if you want some specifics of how it all went down at the time.

Mrs Thumper’s grandfather was captured in the fall of Singapore. He spent the war in a japanese prison camp. A delightful place called Changi. Don’t kid yourself, the japanese treated their prisioners like dirt. No, worse, as if they were some sort of sub life, not worthy to do anything. Beatings, starvation, humiliation, don’t kid yourself, we are talking the very worst of human behaviour, quite unbelievable really. Reading his diaries is harrowing. He was 20 years old and never got over the treatment they dealt out.

Living hell? It was worse, hell would have been a break from the cruelty and pain.

We should never forget this.

And don’t kid yourself that the Allies were any better, it’s the winners that write history and whitewash it accordingly

LSWCHP said :

Ghettosmurf87 said :

Perhaps our way of life would be very very different, but who are you to say it would be “worse”? It’s not like Japan doesn’t have some good things going for it as well as some bad things, but it’s hardly a living hell….

It’s hard for me to believe that such abysmal ignorance is prevalent in our society.

Pre WWII Japan was dominated by a bunch of hoods who had taken the Japanese warrior code of Bushido and perverted it for their own use. Those guys were right up there with Hitler and Stalin, and if they had won the war Australia really would have been hell on earth. Just ask anybody from a country that lived through Japanese occupation during the war how they felt about it. Or Google for “Rape of Nanking” if you want some specifics of how it all went down at the time.

Of course you assume if not for the “plucky little diggers” Japan would have won the war, which is rubbish. It was a World War, for the duration of which Stalin was on our side. So things would not be much different than they are now, except we’d be speaking Japanese and eating a lot more sushi

LSWCHP said :

Ghettosmurf87 said :

Perhaps our way of life would be very very different, but who are you to say it would be “worse”? It’s not like Japan doesn’t have some good things going for it as well as some bad things, but it’s hardly a living hell….

It’s hard for me to believe that such abysmal ignorance is prevalent in our society.

Pre WWII Japan was dominated by a bunch of hoods who had taken the Japanese warrior code of Bushido and perverted it for their own use. Those guys were right up there with Hitler and Stalin, and if they had won the war Australia really would have been hell on earth. Just ask anybody from a country that lived through Japanese occupation during the war how they felt about it. Or Google for “Rape of Nanking” if you want some specifics of how it all went down at the time.

Don’ty read this on a full stomach:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes

Especially these bits:
“…the number of people killed by the Imperial Japanese Army germ warfare and human experiments is around 580,000…”

Or this,
“…the Japanese started selecting prisoners and every day one prisoner was taken out and killed and eaten by the soldiers. I personally saw this happen and about 100 prisoners were eaten at this place by the Japanese. The remainder of us were taken to another spot 50 miles [80 km] away where 10 prisoners died of sickness. At this place, the Japanese again started selecting prisoners to eat. Those selected were taken to a hut where their flesh was cut from their bodies while they were alive and they were thrown into a ditch where they later died…”

The bombs came years after Australian forces including the ADF had already prevented the Japanese from gaining control of Australia.

Ghettosmurf87 said :

Perhaps our way of life would be very very different, but who are you to say it would be “worse”? It’s not like Japan doesn’t have some good things going for it as well as some bad things, but it’s hardly a living hell….

It’s hard for me to believe that such abysmal ignorance is prevalent in our society.

Pre WWII Japan was dominated by a bunch of hoods who had taken the Japanese warrior code of Bushido and perverted it for their own use. Those guys were right up there with Hitler and Stalin, and if they had won the war Australia really would have been hell on earth. Just ask anybody from a country that lived through Japanese occupation during the war how they felt about it. Or Google for “Rape of Nanking” if you want some specifics of how it all went down at the time.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

I joined when I was 17. And so did many others I was at kapooka with. I think 17 is a fine age to start.

The counter argument would be, “of course you think so, because they got you early enough to brainwash you”.

IP

Diggety said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

First world problems to the max.

Better than 3rd world problems, Comic. You can thank our service men and women for that.

Interesting thoughts. How do you figure that? In which incident were we at risk of becoming a 3rd world country?

Woody Mann-Caruso9:24 pm 02 Aug 13

Mind you, the defence forces should remove “defence” from their title too, because they last defended Australia in 1945.

We must never defend other people in other countries, because They’re Over There And We’re Over Here. With great power comes…no responsibility whatsoever, apparently.

But why stop at ’45? No Australian fought in WW1 or WW2 out of a sense of duty to the greater good – they were just brainwashed Commonwealth imperialists. Anybody who’s fought since then was just an American sympathiser.

What leads you to believe that we would be a third world country or fail to have freedoms in this present day just because we might have become a Japanese colony?

You mean other than the entirety of the experience of people living in states invaded by Japan and its allies during the Second World War, and the experience of other people living under totalitarian regimes today?

But perhaps you’re a pure-bred Japanese Aryan who’s not Jewish, gay, handicapped, critical of the state, reading the wrong books, talking to the wrong people, related to the wrong people, or dobbed in by your neighbour for no reason, in which case I’m sure your life would be just as good as it is now.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd7:20 pm 02 Aug 13

IrishPete said :

BerraBoy68 said :

Another Canberran coming to ANZMIs attention for all the wrong reasons:

http://www.anzmi.net/levesque/levesque.html

He sure fitted a lot into two years in the army. I didn’t know they recruited them so young either – the UN says anyone under 18 is a Child Soldier, and I tend to agree with them. The defence forces should be recruiting adults in their early 20s at the youngest, so that their personality is already formed. Mind you, the defence forces should remove “defence” from their title too, because they last defended Australia in 1945.

IP

I joined when I was 17. And so did many others I was at kapooka with. I think 17 is a fine age to start.

I assume that the Richard Levesque on that site is the same one who works for the ACT Government?

BerraBoy68 said :

Another Canberran coming to ANZMIs attention for all the wrong reasons:

http://www.anzmi.net/levesque/levesque.html

He sure fitted a lot into two years in the army. I didn’t know they recruited them so young either – the UN says anyone under 18 is a Child Soldier, and I tend to agree with them. The defence forces should be recruiting adults in their early 20s at the youngest, so that their personality is already formed. Mind you, the defence forces should remove “defence” from their title too, because they last defended Australia in 1945.

IP

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd5:41 pm 02 Aug 13

Pork Hunt said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Mysteryman said :

Ghettosmurf87 said :

Mysteryman said :

Yeah I’m sure the Japanese had no further plans for Australia at all during WWII… Oh, wait, they did. And they ended up being rejected because of our ADF and our allies.

Also, “schtick”? Really? How passé.

Were we a third world country during WWII? Was Japan a third world country during WWII? Is Japan a third world country today? Is Japan a democracy?

What leads you to believe that we would be a third world country or fail to have freedoms in this present day just because we might have become a Japanese colony?

Are you suggesting that they would have slaughtered each and every Australian as part of their takeover? Or simply assumed control over the territory, subsuming our populace into theirs?

There are a lot of ifs and buts in such an equation and none of them point definitively to poor living conditions or a lack of freedom.

Perhaps our way of life would be very very different, but who are you to say it would be “worse”? It’s not like Japan doesn’t have some good things going for it as well as some bad things, but it’s hardly a living hell….

Firslty, “This whole ‘the ADF saved your freedom’ schtick makes me giggle. How can anyone believe this inane rubbish?” is what I was referring to.

Secondly, the Japan of 2013 is a very different place than it would have been had they not lost the war. Perhaps you need to look at what was done to Nanking to see why things here would not have been all peaches and cream if we didn’t have an ADF.

Irrelevant. The big bombs is what stopped the Japanese in ww2, not the ADF. This would have happened with or without the ADF.

I cannot believe you are serious. I thought an ex grunt would have some sense of history ffs.

Can you please explain how I am wrong?

I’m not saying our boys did a great job fighting off the Japanese and their sacrafice is well deserving of our praise and honour, but seriously, the atomic bombs ended the war, not the ADF. Australia would never have been made a third world country by the Japanese.

Well dang, isn’t it funny where people pop up! LAst time I saw Luk we were both at ADFA – not sure if he graduated tho.

Another Canberran coming to ANZMIs attention for all the wrong reasons:

http://www.anzmi.net/levesque/levesque.html

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Mysteryman said :

Ghettosmurf87 said :

Mysteryman said :

Yeah I’m sure the Japanese had no further plans for Australia at all during WWII… Oh, wait, they did. And they ended up being rejected because of our ADF and our allies.

Also, “schtick”? Really? How passé.

Were we a third world country during WWII? Was Japan a third world country during WWII? Is Japan a third world country today? Is Japan a democracy?

What leads you to believe that we would be a third world country or fail to have freedoms in this present day just because we might have become a Japanese colony?

Are you suggesting that they would have slaughtered each and every Australian as part of their takeover? Or simply assumed control over the territory, subsuming our populace into theirs?

There are a lot of ifs and buts in such an equation and none of them point definitively to poor living conditions or a lack of freedom.

Perhaps our way of life would be very very different, but who are you to say it would be “worse”? It’s not like Japan doesn’t have some good things going for it as well as some bad things, but it’s hardly a living hell….

Firslty, “This whole ‘the ADF saved your freedom’ schtick makes me giggle. How can anyone believe this inane rubbish?” is what I was referring to.

Secondly, the Japan of 2013 is a very different place than it would have been had they not lost the war. Perhaps you need to look at what was done to Nanking to see why things here would not have been all peaches and cream if we didn’t have an ADF.

Irrelevant. The big bombs is what stopped the Japanese in ww2, not the ADF. This would have happened with or without the ADF.

I cannot believe you are serious. I thought an ex grunt would have some sense of history ffs.

Ponying up the soldiers for the winning team has had a lot to do with our place at the economic top table.

That’s the real sacrifice made for Australia.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd4:48 pm 02 Aug 13

Mysteryman said :

Ghettosmurf87 said :

Mysteryman said :

Yeah I’m sure the Japanese had no further plans for Australia at all during WWII… Oh, wait, they did. And they ended up being rejected because of our ADF and our allies.

Also, “schtick”? Really? How passé.

Were we a third world country during WWII? Was Japan a third world country during WWII? Is Japan a third world country today? Is Japan a democracy?

What leads you to believe that we would be a third world country or fail to have freedoms in this present day just because we might have become a Japanese colony?

Are you suggesting that they would have slaughtered each and every Australian as part of their takeover? Or simply assumed control over the territory, subsuming our populace into theirs?

There are a lot of ifs and buts in such an equation and none of them point definitively to poor living conditions or a lack of freedom.

Perhaps our way of life would be very very different, but who are you to say it would be “worse”? It’s not like Japan doesn’t have some good things going for it as well as some bad things, but it’s hardly a living hell….

Firslty, “This whole ‘the ADF saved your freedom’ schtick makes me giggle. How can anyone believe this inane rubbish?” is what I was referring to.

Secondly, the Japan of 2013 is a very different place than it would have been had they not lost the war. Perhaps you need to look at what was done to Nanking to see why things here would not have been all peaches and cream if we didn’t have an ADF.

Irrelevant. The big bombs is what stopped the Japanese in ww2, not the ADF. This would have happened with or without the ADF.

Ghettosmurf87 said :

Mysteryman said :

Yeah I’m sure the Japanese had no further plans for Australia at all during WWII… Oh, wait, they did. And they ended up being rejected because of our ADF and our allies.

Also, “schtick”? Really? How passé.

Were we a third world country during WWII? Was Japan a third world country during WWII? Is Japan a third world country today? Is Japan a democracy?

What leads you to believe that we would be a third world country or fail to have freedoms in this present day just because we might have become a Japanese colony?

Are you suggesting that they would have slaughtered each and every Australian as part of their takeover? Or simply assumed control over the territory, subsuming our populace into theirs?

There are a lot of ifs and buts in such an equation and none of them point definitively to poor living conditions or a lack of freedom.

Perhaps our way of life would be very very different, but who are you to say it would be “worse”? It’s not like Japan doesn’t have some good things going for it as well as some bad things, but it’s hardly a living hell….

Firslty, “This whole ‘the ADF saved your freedom’ schtick makes me giggle. How can anyone believe this inane rubbish?” is what I was referring to.

Secondly, the Japan of 2013 is a very different place than it would have been had they not lost the war. Perhaps you need to look at what was done to Nanking to see why things here would not have been all peaches and cream if we didn’t have an ADF.

Ghettosmurf873:53 pm 02 Aug 13

Mysteryman said :

Yeah I’m sure the Japanese had no further plans for Australia at all during WWII… Oh, wait, they did. And they ended up being rejected because of our ADF and our allies.

Also, “schtick”? Really? How passé.

Were we a third world country during WWII? Was Japan a third world country during WWII? Is Japan a third world country today? Is Japan a democracy?

What leads you to believe that we would be a third world country or fail to have freedoms in this present day just because we might have become a Japanese colony?

Are you suggesting that they would have slaughtered each and every Australian as part of their takeover? Or simply assumed control over the territory, subsuming our populace into theirs?

There are a lot of ifs and buts in such an equation and none of them point definitively to poor living conditions or a lack of freedom.

Perhaps our way of life would be very very different, but who are you to say it would be “worse”? It’s not like Japan doesn’t have some good things going for it as well as some bad things, but it’s hardly a living hell….

Jim Jones said :

Diggety said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Diggety said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

First world problems to the max.

Better than 3rd world problems, Comic. You can thank our service men and women for that.

How has the ADF prevented Australia from becoming a third world country?

Get a flipping library card and head to the History section please.

History clearly shows that … hang on … nope, there’s nothing.

We went into WWI and WWII because we were part of the Commonwealth and were sucking up to the Brits, damn near everything since we’ve gone into in order to suck up to the Yanks.

It’s a mystery to me how we’d be a third-world country without this military background.

This whole ‘the ADF saved your freedom’ schtick makes me giggle. How can anyone believe this inane rubbish?

Yeah I’m sure the Japanese had no further plans for Australia at all during WWII… Oh, wait, they did. And they ended up being rejected because of our ADF and our allies.

Also, “schtick”? Really? How passé.

Jim Jones said :

Diggety said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Diggety said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

First world problems to the max.

Better than 3rd world problems, Comic. You can thank our service men and women for that.

How has the ADF prevented Australia from becoming a third world country?

Get a flipping library card and head to the History section please.

History clearly shows that … hang on … nope, there’s nothing.

We went into WWI and WWII because we were part of the Commonwealth and were sucking up to the Brits, damn near everything since we’ve gone into in order to suck up to the Yanks.

It’s a mystery to me how we’d be a third-world country without this military background.

This whole ‘the ADF saved your freedom’ schtick makes me giggle. How can anyone believe this inane rubbish?

Well, Diggety, it looks like we’re all lefties for questioning your infallible opinion

Diggety said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Diggety said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

First world problems to the max.

Better than 3rd world problems, Comic. You can thank our service men and women for that.

How has the ADF prevented Australia from becoming a third world country?

Get a flipping library card and head to the History section please.

History clearly shows that … hang on … nope, there’s nothing.

We went into WWI and WWII because we were part of the Commonwealth and were sucking up to the Brits, damn near everything since we’ve gone into in order to suck up to the Yanks.

It’s a mystery to me how we’d be a third-world country without this military background.

This whole ‘the ADF saved your freedom’ schtick makes me giggle. How can anyone believe this inane rubbish?

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Diggety said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

First world problems to the max.

Better than 3rd world problems, Comic. You can thank our service men and women for that.

How has the ADF prevented Australia from becoming a third world country?

Get a flipping library card and head to the History section please.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd12:27 pm 02 Aug 13

Diggety said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

First world problems to the max.

Better than 3rd world problems, Comic. You can thank our service men and women for that.

How has the ADF prevented Australia from becoming a third world country?

Barcham said :

While I agree that it’s not cool, I really don’t think pretending to have won some medals should be a legal issue. Nobody was hurt, nothing was stolen, the guy is just being a jerk.

Being a jerk is not against the law, nor should it be.

Lying to make yourself look better is a fairly common occurrence. Should we start policing people who lie about what kind of car they drive or how large a fish they’ve caught?

The guy should be mocked for his douchebaggery, then everyone should move on.

Well said, sir.

A**holery, but not a hanging offence.

This is just the latest disgrace on a long list committed by this particular fool. The vast majority of the AFP are ashamed of him and have no idea why he hasn’t been fired.

Stevian said :

Diggety said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

First world problems to the max.

Better than 3rd world problems, Comic. You can thank our service men and women for that.

Not really, but if it helps you sleep at night

Thanks for the token Left wing response, Stevian. There is always one and it’s good to get it out there.

Imagine for a moment, what would have happened to Australian society if the our defence force had not stopped the Japanese at Milne Bay and they went on to win the war?

Before regurgitating a protest placard catch-phrase, ask a historian. Or maybe you’d like to ask a POW?

Diggety said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

First world problems to the max.

Better than 3rd world problems, Comic. You can thank our service men and women for that.

Not really, but if it helps you sleep at night

IrishPete said :

bundah said :

IrishPete said :

Proboscus said :

I agree that this idiot should be embarrassed in the media and in front of his peers.

But I cannot believe that the story of a putrid local paedophile having his sentence halved by the ACT Supreme Court has not even rated a mention on this site (not that I can find anyway).

Prison has a place in society, sadly, and people like Mr Holliday are probably who it is for. Judges have a fair bit of discretion, but only because the law gives it to them. And the law is written by politicians. So point the finger in their direction, or at least partly. And you vote for them, so take some responsibility yourself.

Sentencing for sexual offences has always been abysmal, everywhere, on top of the fact you would have to be pretty unlucky to be charged and convicted in the first place.

Anyway, the appeal was heard by three judges, of whom Mr Higgins was only one.

IP

As Chief Justice he wields a bigger stick..

irony? A vicious leaf of wet lettuce I think.

IP

Ha yeah bugger the wig just adorn his head with a lettuce leaf..

bundah said :

IrishPete said :

Proboscus said :

I agree that this idiot should be embarrassed in the media and in front of his peers.

But I cannot believe that the story of a putrid local paedophile having his sentence halved by the ACT Supreme Court has not even rated a mention on this site (not that I can find anyway).

Prison has a place in society, sadly, and people like Mr Holliday are probably who it is for. Judges have a fair bit of discretion, but only because the law gives it to them. And the law is written by politicians. So point the finger in their direction, or at least partly. And you vote for them, so take some responsibility yourself.

Sentencing for sexual offences has always been abysmal, everywhere, on top of the fact you would have to be pretty unlucky to be charged and convicted in the first place.

Anyway, the appeal was heard by three judges, of whom Mr Higgins was only one.

IP

As Chief Justice he wields a bigger stick..

irony? A vicious leaf of wet lettuce I think.

IP

Diggety said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

First world problems to the max.

Better than 3rd world problems, Comic. You can thank our service men and women for that.

The medals are about society showing respect. Respect that has been earned by sacrifice. I read somewhere how important that is …

IrishPete said :

Proboscus said :

I agree that this idiot should be embarrassed in the media and in front of his peers.

But I cannot believe that the story of a putrid local paedophile having his sentence halved by the ACT Supreme Court has not even rated a mention on this site (not that I can find anyway).

Prison has a place in society, sadly, and people like Mr Holliday are probably who it is for. Judges have a fair bit of discretion, but only because the law gives it to them. And the law is written by politicians. So point the finger in their direction, or at least partly. And you vote for them, so take some responsibility yourself.

Sentencing for sexual offences has always been abysmal, everywhere, on top of the fact you would have to be pretty unlucky to be charged and convicted in the first place.

Anyway, the appeal was heard by three judges, of whom Mr Higgins was only one.

IP

As Chief Justice he wields a bigger stick..

Barcham said :

Lying to make yourself look better is a fairly common occurrence. Should we start policing people who lie about what kind of car they drive or how large a fish they’ve caught?

Imagine if they cracked down on embellished CV’s?

Proboscus said :

I agree that this idiot should be embarrassed in the media and in front of his peers.

But I cannot believe that the story of a putrid local paedophile having his sentence halved by the ACT Supreme Court has not even rated a mention on this site (not that I can find anyway).

Prison has a place in society, sadly, and people like Mr Holliday are probably who it is for. Judges have a fair bit of discretion, but only because the law gives it to them. And the law is written by politicians. So point the finger in their direction, or at least partly. And you vote for them, so take some responsibility yourself.

Sentencing for sexual offences has always been abysmal, everywhere, on top of the fact you would have to be pretty unlucky to be charged and convicted in the first place.

Anyway, the appeal was heard by three judges, of whom Mr Higgins was only one.

IP

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

First world problems to the max.

Better than 3rd world problems, Comic. You can thank our service men and women for that.

One of the AFP core values is integrity. Nuff said, really.

Blen_Carmichael6:58 pm 01 Aug 13

Although these people’s actions are on one hand contemptible, I do think the point about the persons concerned having some form of mental delusion is a valid one. Many of them are to be pitied. As for their punishment, I think public exposure does the job.

Woody Mann-Caruso6:34 pm 01 Aug 13

do we really need a law against it

Yes. Put your life on the line, watch your mates lose theirs, take somebody else’s for good measure, then come and tell me you’re tots cool with somebody else barring up and claiming to have been through what you went through.

why would you bother

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd4:13 pm 01 Aug 13

Peeps should be allowed to wear whatever they desire and ridiculed appropriately.

Wanting laws against it or wanting to bash them is incredibly childish and you should be worrying about other things.
First world problems to the max.

MERC600 said :

Proboscus said :

I agree that this idiot should be embarrassed in the media and in front of his peers.

But I cannot believe that the story of a putrid local paedophile having his sentence halved by the ACT Supreme Court has not even rated a mention on this site (not that I can find anyway).

Justice bloody iggins strikes again .. when does he retire.

September the 13th from memory.

IrishPete said :

I get that it’s offensive to people for someone to wear medals that they are not entitled to, but do we really need a law against it?

IP

Yes.

Until we’re allowed to thump seven shades of sh!te out of them, the law will have to do instead.

breda said :

There was no fraud (eg claiming benefits) and no-one was harmed

Well, it may be used to obtain favourable treatment? Having a bunch of fakes around may hurt the ADFs reputation. I do know of Professional/Chartered bodies will take people to court who falsely advertise they are members.

Zeital said :

my question is how does one get these medals if they haven’t been presented to them?

You can get replicas quite easily. I wear a replica of mine on ANZAC day etc so that I don’t lose the original issue. I also wear replicas of my grandfathers as the originals are framed with his photo and service record.

Proboscus said :

I agree that this idiot should be embarrassed in the media and in front of his peers.

But I cannot believe that the story of a putrid local paedophile having his sentence halved by the ACT Supreme Court has not even rated a mention on this site (not that I can find anyway).

Justice bloody iggins strikes again .. when does he retire.

my question is how does one get these medals if they haven’t been presented to them?

but I agree that they should be named/shamed.

Some posters here seem to think that inflating your self-importance should be against the law.

I absolutely agree that wearing false medals is dick-headedness to the n, but exposure and ridicule, and perhaps (as in this case) internal disciplinary procedures are more than enough. There was no fraud (eg claiming benefits) and no-one was harmed.

My Dad has a few medals, and when I talked to him about this incident, he just shrugged and said “there are always people like that.”

Blokes like that should disappear.

I agree that this idiot should be embarrassed in the media and in front of his peers.

But I cannot believe that the story of a putrid local paedophile having his sentence halved by the ACT Supreme Court has not even rated a mention on this site (not that I can find anyway).

So write the story

While I agree that it’s not cool, I really don’t think pretending to have won some medals should be a legal issue. Nobody was hurt, nothing was stolen, the guy is just being a jerk.

Being a jerk is not against the law, nor should it be.

Lying to make yourself look better is a fairly common occurrence. Should we start policing people who lie about what kind of car they drive or how large a fish they’ve caught?

The guy should be mocked for his douchebaggery, then everyone should move on.

http://www.defence.gov.au/medals/Content/+058%20FAQ/#CanIwearanother

Some information for those that want to wear someone else’s medals.

Pork Hunt said :

IrishPete said :

I get that it’s offensive to people for someone to wear medals that they are not entitled to, but do we really need a law against it?

IP

Yes.

Damn right!

IrishPete said :

I get that it’s offensive to people for someone to wear medals that they are not entitled to, but do we really need a law against it?

IP

IrishPete said :

I get that it’s offensive to people for someone to wear medals that they are not entitled to, but do we really need a law against it?

IP

Yes. People serve in war zones to be awarded medals. Or spend countless years of service.

Medals are generally hard won, whether operational or for service.

These people are stealing others valour, experience, service.

It is fraud.

Frankly I’d like to see old school army justice in these cases but it’s frowned upon these days…

Disclaimer. I have three federal gongs and three state gongs. All hard earned from ADF service and SES service. People who wear fake decorations are complete scum in my eyes. Do they suffer from PTSD and depression? Do they have non stop nightmares about things they have done? Do they sit there with their mates and question what the fuck they have done and is it worth it in the end? Do they suffer from long standing injuries from doing these things?

These people are complete scum…

My dad is a Vietnam Vet, my uncle, RAR grunt, is a Vietnam vet, my Godfather, shot down in a Huey at Da Nang, is a Vietnam vet. A number of my mates are Timor and Afghanistan vets.

IP, you are a volunteer firie, how do you feel that someone is stealing your service? For me, I’d gladly punch them in the face.

Agreed,anyone falsely parading around with ADF medals clearly has no respect for those who have served in conflict and deserved to be disciplined for his stupidity.

IP, you are a volunteer firie, how do you feel that someone is stealing your service? For me, I’d gladly punch them in the face.

I would laugh at them, but quietly, knowing there’s a fair chance they have some form of mental illness.

I would never resort to violence because that would make me worse than them.

No-one can “steal my service”. That’s a very odd expression.

I’ve served society in many ways, paid and unpaid, and I don’t care about medals, flags, or anything else. The long service medal I am due with the RFS, and the ones I will continue to accrue? Not interested. I’d rather they spent the money on new equipment.

I do not denigrate those who have served society in various ways and want such recognition, but I do object to them thinking that they speak for everyone. They don’t.

As for JohnBoy’s comment that the medals are issued by government and subject to their regulation, he might want to think a bit harder about the implications of that statement.

IP

IrishPete said :

I get that it’s offensive to people for someone to wear medals that they are not entitled to, but do we really need a law against it?

IP

IrishPete said :

I get that it’s offensive to people for someone to wear medals that they are not entitled to, but do we really need a law against it?

IP

Yes. People serve in war zones to be awarded medals. Or spend countless years of service.

Medals are generally hard won, whether operational or for service.

These people are stealing others valour, experience, service.

It is fraud.

Frankly I’d like to see old school army justice in these cases but it’s frowned upon these days…

Disclaimer. I have three federal gongs and three state gongs. All hard earned from ADF service and SES service. People who wear fake decorations are complete scum in my eyes. Do they suffer from PTSD and depression? Do they have non stop nightmares about things they have done? Do they sit there with their mates and question what the fuck they have done and is it worth it in the end? Do they suffer from long standing injuries from doing these things?

These people are complete scum…

My dad is a Vietnam Vet, my uncle, RAR grunt, is a Vietnam vet, my Godfather, shot down in a Huey at Da Nang, is a Vietnam vet. A number of my mates are Timor and Afghanistan vets.

IP, you are a volunteer firie, how do you feel that someone is stealing your service? For me, I’d gladly punch them in the face.

Couldn’t agree more.

And to add to the above sentiments: if someone lies about military service, what else are they lying about in their life???

I hope this prick gets the arse from the AFP – if he hasn’t been shown the door already.

IrishPete said :

I get that it’s offensive to people for someone to wear medals that they are not entitled to, but do we really need a law against it?

IP

Yes.

The issue, as I see it, is that the medals are issued by the government, and thus subject to their regulation.

I get that it’s offensive to people for someone to wear medals that they are not entitled to, but do we really need a law against it?

IP

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