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Canberra set for Hotter Summers with more Severe Fire Weather days

By Canfan 8 December 2014 103

The first detailed climate change projections for the ACT show the territory can expect hotter summers, warmer winters, drier springs and an increase in the number of days with severe fire weather, Minister for the Environment, Simon Corbell, said.

New climate change projections funded by the ACT and NSW governments and produced by the UNSW Climate Change Research Centre provide an unparalleled level of detail that will inform and drive actions to reduce the ACT’s vulnerability to climate change.

“The best minds in the field of climate change science were brought together as part of the NSW and ACT Regional Climate Modelling project to deliver these projections using the most advanced projection techniques,” Mr Corbell said.

“The ACT Government is proud to have worked with the NSW Office of Environment and Heritage and climate modellers at the University of NSW Climate Change Research Centre to deliver this world-leading research project.”

The NSW and ACT Regional Climate Modelling (NARCliM) research provides information down to the nearest 10 km, providing the finest detail yet of near future (2030) and far future (2070) climate projections.

The projections indicate that if the world continues warming at its current rate the ACT will warm by about 0.7oC during the near future (2020–2039), increasing to about 2 oC in the far future (2060–2079) with the number of hot days expected to increase.

The projections show up to five extra days above 35oC in the territory by 2030 and up to 20 extra days above that mark by 2070.

Rainfall in the ACT is projected to decrease in spring and increase in summer and autumn contributing to an increase in average fire weather in spring, summer and winter as well as an increase in the number of severe fire weather days in summer and spring.

“The NARCliM projections will inform planning for our emergency and health services and ensure our actions will maintain our city’s liveability by providing a built environment with amenity, green space, shade and shelter,” Mr Corbell said.

“The projections will help us to better care for those most vulnerable in our community and to protect and manage our natural environment such as our nationally significant woodland communities.”
The projections also show a reduction in the number of cold nights, with the territory expected to dip below 2 oC an average of 13 fewer times each year by 2030 and 43 fewer times each year by 2070.

“I commend the University of NSW for their work on these projections and look forward to continued collaboration as the challenges we face do not stop at the border and require a coordinated strategic approach to resolve,” Mr Corbell said.

“These projections highlight the need for a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions locally as part of a global effort. That is why the ACT is committed to its target of 90% renewable energy by 2020 as part of a 40% reduction in carbon emissions.”

(Simon Corbell Media Release)


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Mark of Sydney 11:20 am 08 Mar 16

No_Nose said :

dungfungus said :

rubaiyat said :

switch said :

dungfungus said :

Hey everybody, I found a photo comparing past an present sea levels.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/01/if-sea-level-was-rising-wouldnt-someone-have-noticed/
I think the warmists will find this a bit hard to gargle and swallow.

Closer to home, you can do a similar thing with the present day and 1943 imagery for Sydney from https://maps.six.nsw.gov.au/

I see the same rocks I remember jumping off at the beach in the sixties are still there, above water, as they were in 1943. Over 200mm (8 inches oldspeak) of sea level rise would be apparent by now…

Was the water moving at the time?

Was the tide in or out?

Was the wind inshore or offshore?

Did you “photograph” any counter or reinforcing geological subsidence or uplift?

Maybe that is why we take satellite measurements to assess long, slow varying processes rather than just looking at photographs.

None of those, but we did photograph the fifth leg on the cat (from a remote satellite on the other side of the globe).

I’m alway intrigued dungers as to why you insist, quite forcefully on occassion, that people immediately answer your questions, and if they don’t, well.. you seem well and truly vindicate and go on to indicate that proves they are wrong and you are right.

Yet whenever anyone tries to ask you to back-up a point you make or questions it, you resort to nonsensical non-humorous responses such as this and that apparently is the end of the discussion

It seems to be your standard tactic when you are unable to back up your views! You should go into politics!

Dungfungus could be Canberra’s very own Donald Trump. I wonder if he also wears an orange toupee?

dungfungus 10:38 am 08 Mar 16

No_Nose said :

dungfungus said :

rubaiyat said :

switch said :

dungfungus said :

Hey everybody, I found a photo comparing past an present sea levels.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/01/if-sea-level-was-rising-wouldnt-someone-have-noticed/
I think the warmists will find this a bit hard to gargle and swallow.

Closer to home, you can do a similar thing with the present day and 1943 imagery for Sydney from https://maps.six.nsw.gov.au/

I see the same rocks I remember jumping off at the beach in the sixties are still there, above water, as they were in 1943. Over 200mm (8 inches oldspeak) of sea level rise would be apparent by now…

Was the water moving at the time?

Was the tide in or out?

Was the wind inshore or offshore?

Did you “photograph” any counter or reinforcing geological subsidence or uplift?

Maybe that is why we take satellite measurements to assess long, slow varying processes rather than just looking at photographs.

None of those, but we did photograph the fifth leg on the cat (from a remote satellite on the other side of the globe).

I’m alway intrigued dungers as to why you insist, quite forcefully on occassion, that people immediately answer your questions, and if they don’t, well.. you seem well and truly vindicate and go on to indicate that proves they are wrong and you are right.

Yet whenever anyone tries to ask you to back-up a point you make or questions it, you resort to nonsensical non-humorous responses such as this and that apparently is the end of the discussion

It seems to be your standard tactic when you are unable to back up your views! You should go into politics!

A lot of my questions go unanswered (no one has provided photographic evidence yet of sea levels rising, for example).
This fact plus certain contributors trying to answer questions they know they can’t by asking further ridiculous questions, invites the rule “ask a stupid question, expect a stupid answer” to be applied.
I hope that answers your question.

No_Nose 3:26 pm 07 Mar 16

dungfungus said :

rubaiyat said :

switch said :

dungfungus said :

Hey everybody, I found a photo comparing past an present sea levels.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/01/if-sea-level-was-rising-wouldnt-someone-have-noticed/
I think the warmists will find this a bit hard to gargle and swallow.

Closer to home, you can do a similar thing with the present day and 1943 imagery for Sydney from https://maps.six.nsw.gov.au/

I see the same rocks I remember jumping off at the beach in the sixties are still there, above water, as they were in 1943. Over 200mm (8 inches oldspeak) of sea level rise would be apparent by now…

Was the water moving at the time?

Was the tide in or out?

Was the wind inshore or offshore?

Did you “photograph” any counter or reinforcing geological subsidence or uplift?

Maybe that is why we take satellite measurements to assess long, slow varying processes rather than just looking at photographs.

None of those, but we did photograph the fifth leg on the cat (from a remote satellite on the other side of the globe).

I’m alway intrigued dungers as to why you insist, quite forcefully on occassion, that people immediately answer your questions, and if they don’t, well.. you seem well and truly vindicate and go on to indicate that proves they are wrong and you are right.

Yet whenever anyone tries to ask you to back-up a point you make or questions it, you resort to nonsensical non-humorous responses such as this and that apparently is the end of the discussion

It seems to be your standard tactic when you are unable to back up your views! You should go into politics!

dungfungus 2:51 pm 07 Mar 16

rubaiyat said :

We do not need to “photograph” (wrong tool) the rise in sea level, which has been well managed by modern tools like the satellite data, as much as we need to measure what it is that causes the response from certain specific individuals. Something else that we can not photograph.

My previous post was removed (because I posted it in Latin?) but I made the obvious comparison with Galileo when he reported what he had observed through his telescope.

He was condemned by the church and most of the philosophers of the time who would not countenance anything that contradicted their excuse for not thinking, their total belief that the “knowledge” of the ancients, particularly Plato and Aristotle, that “truth” was “eternal” and “immutable”. Ignoring that Aristotle particularly emphasised the need for observation and testing to establish “truth”.

Galileo’s particular frustration with the philosophers and the Pope was that they refused to look through his new tool the telescope, or at any of the evidence he provided.

It was a confrontation between the scientist’s research and mathematical calculations, and the dogged beliefs of the philosophers and the church, both of whom simply “felt” Galileo was wrong. They didn’t like what he was saying because it changed their world view, removing them from the centre of the universe.

In a form of social schizophrenia they lashed out at the source of the perceived threat to their inaccurate world view, and imprisoned Galileo for the rest of his life. In other words they shot the messenger.

Familiar?

I am glad the moderators binned your Latin offering but they slipped up letting this one through as I have no idea what you are saying.

dungfungus 2:49 pm 07 Mar 16

rubaiyat said :

switch said :

dungfungus said :

Hey everybody, I found a photo comparing past an present sea levels.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/01/if-sea-level-was-rising-wouldnt-someone-have-noticed/
I think the warmists will find this a bit hard to gargle and swallow.

Closer to home, you can do a similar thing with the present day and 1943 imagery for Sydney from https://maps.six.nsw.gov.au/

I see the same rocks I remember jumping off at the beach in the sixties are still there, above water, as they were in 1943. Over 200mm (8 inches oldspeak) of sea level rise would be apparent by now…

Was the water moving at the time?

Was the tide in or out?

Was the wind inshore or offshore?

Did you “photograph” any counter or reinforcing geological subsidence or uplift?

Maybe that is why we take satellite measurements to assess long, slow varying processes rather than just looking at photographs.

None of those, but we did photograph the fifth leg on the cat (from a remote satellite on the other side of the globe).

rubaiyat 1:40 pm 07 Mar 16

We do not need to “photograph” (wrong tool) the rise in sea level, which has been well managed by modern tools like the satellite data, as much as we need to measure what it is that causes the response from certain specific individuals. Something else that we can not photograph.

My previous post was removed (because I posted it in Latin?) but I made the obvious comparison with Galileo when he reported what he had observed through his telescope.

He was condemned by the church and most of the philosophers of the time who would not countenance anything that contradicted their excuse for not thinking, their total belief that the “knowledge” of the ancients, particularly Plato and Aristotle, that “truth” was “eternal” and “immutable”. Ignoring that Aristotle particularly emphasised the need for observation and testing to establish “truth”.

Galileo’s particular frustration with the philosophers and the Pope was that they refused to look through his new tool the telescope, or at any of the evidence he provided.

It was a confrontation between the scientist’s research and mathematical calculations, and the dogged beliefs of the philosophers and the church, both of whom simply “felt” Galileo was wrong. They didn’t like what he was saying because it changed their world view, removing them from the centre of the universe.

In a form of social schizophrenia they lashed out at the source of the perceived threat to their inaccurate world view, and imprisoned Galileo for the rest of his life. In other words they shot the messenger.

Familiar?

rubaiyat 12:12 pm 07 Mar 16

switch said :

dungfungus said :

Hey everybody, I found a photo comparing past an present sea levels.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/01/if-sea-level-was-rising-wouldnt-someone-have-noticed/
I think the warmists will find this a bit hard to gargle and swallow.

Closer to home, you can do a similar thing with the present day and 1943 imagery for Sydney from https://maps.six.nsw.gov.au/

I see the same rocks I remember jumping off at the beach in the sixties are still there, above water, as they were in 1943. Over 200mm (8 inches oldspeak) of sea level rise would be apparent by now…

Was the water moving at the time?

Was the tide in or out?

Was the wind inshore or offshore?

Did you “photograph” any counter or reinforcing geological subsidence or uplift?

Maybe that is why we take satellite measurements to assess long, slow varying processes rather than just looking at photographs.

dungfungus 10:59 am 07 Mar 16

switch said :

dungfungus said :

Hey everybody, I found a photo comparing past an present sea levels.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/01/if-sea-level-was-rising-wouldnt-someone-have-noticed/
I think the warmists will find this a bit hard to gargle and swallow.

Closer to home, you can do a similar thing with the present day and 1943 imagery for Sydney from https://maps.six.nsw.gov.au/

I see the same rocks I remember jumping off at the beach in the sixties are still there, above water, as they were in 1943. Over 200mm (8 inches oldspeak) of sea level rise would be apparent by now…

I have read about that somewhere but I wasn’t aware there were photos confirming the fact that nothing has changed in 70 years.
Unfortunately I lack the skills to get the info from the link so I will rely on other contributors to agree/disagree with the evidence and advise.

dungfungus 10:54 am 07 Mar 16

HenryBG said :

dungfungus said :

Hey everybody, I found a photo comparing past an present sea levels.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/01/if-sea-level-was-rising-wouldnt-someone-have-noticed/
I think the warmists will find this a bit hard to gargle and swallow.

OK, so you get your info from an ex-TV-weatherman who runs a blog.

Other may prefer to rely on CSIRO:
http://www.cmar.csiro.au/sealevel/sl_about_intro.html

Or the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration:
http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends.html

The CSIRO is all about “projections and estimates ” and they don’t have any photographic evidence comparing sea levels (then and now)
I am not going to bother with perusing the other link as I believe it will be more of thesame.
Do you have a problem with ex-TV weathermen? At least he has the photo evidence on his blog that your scientist mates can’t dispute despite the billions of dollars in funding they receive.

switch 10:22 am 07 Mar 16

Dreadnaught1905 said :

The sea levels are clearly rising.

Except where they’ve gone down…

switch 10:13 am 07 Mar 16

dungfungus said :

Hey everybody, I found a photo comparing past an present sea levels.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/01/if-sea-level-was-rising-wouldnt-someone-have-noticed/
I think the warmists will find this a bit hard to gargle and swallow.

Closer to home, you can do a similar thing with the present day and 1943 imagery for Sydney from https://maps.six.nsw.gov.au/

I see the same rocks I remember jumping off at the beach in the sixties are still there, above water, as they were in 1943. Over 200mm (8 inches oldspeak) of sea level rise would be apparent by now…

HenryBG 9:01 am 07 Mar 16

dungfungus said :

Hey everybody, I found a photo comparing past an present sea levels.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/01/if-sea-level-was-rising-wouldnt-someone-have-noticed/
I think the warmists will find this a bit hard to gargle and swallow.

OK, so you get your info from an ex-TV-weatherman who runs a blog.

Other may prefer to rely on CSIRO:
http://www.cmar.csiro.au/sealevel/sl_about_intro.html

Or the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration:
http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends.html

Dreadnaught1905 5:49 pm 06 Mar 16

dungfungus said :

Dreadnaught1905 said :

dungfungus said :

Dreadnaught1905 said :

dungfungus said :

rubaiyat said :

Call me what you like but also send me some photos (peer reviewed) of evidence sea levels are rising now, due to man made climate change.

After you. 😀

The JPL at NASA has a vast amount of sensor data showing sea level rise, with a reported average of 3mm per year since 1992. The data they collect come from a range of sensors including radar altimeters, Orbitography systems, Radiometers and a Light Particle Telescope.

As for peer review, NASA collect the information which is then analysed and reviewed by the NOAA. The information is then reviewed by a range of universities. For example, the university of Colorado has had a long running programme examining this data. (http://sealevel.colorado.edu/).

If that peer review isn’t enough, however, they make 100% of the sensor data publicly available. Have a look here:

http://podaac.jpl.nasa.gov/dataset/JASON-1_SGDR_NETCDF

You can download their data in netcdf, binary or ASCII formats. That will let you build visual representations from sensor data to your hearts content…

Wow! 3mm a year for the last 13 years! Thats a whole 39mm! We are doomed!
I grow zuchinnis bigger than that in my backyard!
I am not interested in sensor data – I want visual evidence. Where are the photos? Everyone has a phone camera (look at the crap that gets on Facebook) so how is it that no one has been able to capture this 39mm sea rise on camera?

A photograph IS a visual representation of sensor data. That’s how a camera works. They have plenty of visual representations of the sensor data coming off the satellite platform.

Oh, and 1992 was somewhat longer than 13 years ago, you may want to multiply those numbers again.

I note you state the data comes from JPL.
Doesn’t that stand for “Jet Propulsion Laboratory” in which case what are they doing gathering information about sea levels? Shouldn’t they be researching better ways to reduce greenhouse gases from jumbo jets?
Your definition of a camera is the greatest load of nonsense I have ever read but it is nevertheless typical of the spin that is generated to defend the claims of the climate change crusaders.
I am aware that you said “since 1992” – I deliberately use 13 years as the number 13 is accepted as being superstitious which is the way I view your claims and outcomes, still unsupported by something as simple as a photo to prove something that isn’t happening.

They’re not my claims and outcomes, they are NASA’s. The sea levels are clearly rising. What impact that will have on the world in general, I don’t know; and I don’t claim to know.

I pointed you to a vast number of datasets, visual and otherwise, that conclusively show that the global average sea level has risen by an average of 3mm per year. It seems, however, that you discount the pre-eminent orbital research platforms in which governments and research organisations have invested billions of dollars, and would prefer evidence to be gathered using a $33 consumer device. I think at this point, the ‘spin’ is certainly only going one way.

3mm not sound like much. I haven’t done the calculation, but I guesstimate that a 3mm rise in ocean levels would equate in the teralitres of volume… every year.

dungfungus 2:33 pm 06 Mar 16

Hey everybody, I found a photo comparing past an present sea levels.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/01/if-sea-level-was-rising-wouldnt-someone-have-noticed/
I think the warmists will find this a bit hard to gargle and swallow.

dungfungus 8:27 am 06 Mar 16

rubaiyat said :

dungfungus said :

Dreadnaught1905 said :

dungfungus said :

rubaiyat said :

Call me what you like but also send me some photos (peer reviewed) of evidence sea levels are rising now, due to man made climate change.

After you. 😀

The JPL at NASA has a vast amount of sensor data showing sea level rise, with a reported average of 3mm per year since 1992. The data they collect come from a range of sensors including radar altimeters, Orbitography systems, Radiometers and a Light Particle Telescope.

As for peer review, NASA collect the information which is then analysed and reviewed by the NOAA. The information is then reviewed by a range of universities. For example, the university of Colorado has had a long running programme examining this data. (http://sealevel.colorado.edu/).

If that peer review isn’t enough, however, they make 100% of the sensor data publicly available. Have a look here:

http://podaac.jpl.nasa.gov/dataset/JASON-1_SGDR_NETCDF

You can download their data in netcdf, binary or ASCII formats. That will let you build visual representations from sensor data to your hearts content…

Wow! 3mm a year for the last 13 years! Thats a whole 39mm! We are doomed!
I grow zuchinnis bigger than that in my backyard!
I am not interested in sensor data – I want visual evidence. Where are the photos? Everyone has a phone camera (look at the crap that gets on Facebook) so how is it that no one has been able to capture this 39mm sea rise on camera?

Now you really are being ridiculous. How do you propose a mobile phone camera would do that?

There certainly is plenty of photographic evidence of the results of rising sea level available, the only difficulty would be getting you to look at it.

The Greenland Icecap is steadily melting and will eventually collapse, that’s when you might just get the Hollywood style visuals you demand but will still ignore. You’ll just find some other reason that it “isn’t real”.

Similarly when the western Antartica icesheets become dislodged from their current land bound positions and enter the Southern Ocean is when the sea levels will take a real jump.

There is no lack of science and data as to what is happening, just the lack of either comprehension or willingness to examine that data from people such as yourself.

The climate IS changing due to human activity. The denialism is not.

If the Gulf Stream and the Monsoon are substantially, altered that will have an enormous impact on virtually all of humanity.

We know that all you think of is money, so what do you think the collapse of world agriculture, destruction of many low lying cities (most of the world’s major cities are by the sea) and most of the fertile land will cost?

“There certainly is plenty of photographic evidence of the results of rising sea level available, the only difficulty would be getting you to look at it.”
Where?
You mentioned Hollywood scenarios and then you create a few more. I am trying to deal with reality and this is the essential difference between my stance and your argument (which is getting tinges with fanatical-ism).

dungfungus 8:21 am 06 Mar 16

Dreadnaught1905 said :

dungfungus said :

Dreadnaught1905 said :

dungfungus said :

rubaiyat said :

Call me what you like but also send me some photos (peer reviewed) of evidence sea levels are rising now, due to man made climate change.

After you. 😀

The JPL at NASA has a vast amount of sensor data showing sea level rise, with a reported average of 3mm per year since 1992. The data they collect come from a range of sensors including radar altimeters, Orbitography systems, Radiometers and a Light Particle Telescope.

As for peer review, NASA collect the information which is then analysed and reviewed by the NOAA. The information is then reviewed by a range of universities. For example, the university of Colorado has had a long running programme examining this data. (http://sealevel.colorado.edu/).

If that peer review isn’t enough, however, they make 100% of the sensor data publicly available. Have a look here:

http://podaac.jpl.nasa.gov/dataset/JASON-1_SGDR_NETCDF

You can download their data in netcdf, binary or ASCII formats. That will let you build visual representations from sensor data to your hearts content…

Wow! 3mm a year for the last 13 years! Thats a whole 39mm! We are doomed!
I grow zuchinnis bigger than that in my backyard!
I am not interested in sensor data – I want visual evidence. Where are the photos? Everyone has a phone camera (look at the crap that gets on Facebook) so how is it that no one has been able to capture this 39mm sea rise on camera?

A photograph IS a visual representation of sensor data. That’s how a camera works. They have plenty of visual representations of the sensor data coming off the satellite platform.

Oh, and 1992 was somewhat longer than 13 years ago, you may want to multiply those numbers again.

I note you state the data comes from JPL.
Doesn’t that stand for “Jet Propulsion Laboratory” in which case what are they doing gathering information about sea levels? Shouldn’t they be researching better ways to reduce greenhouse gases from jumbo jets?
Your definition of a camera is the greatest load of nonsense I have ever read but it is nevertheless typical of the spin that is generated to defend the claims of the climate change crusaders.
I am aware that you said “since 1992” – I deliberately use 13 years as the number 13 is accepted as being superstitious which is the way I view your claims and outcomes, still unsupported by something as simple as a photo to prove something that isn’t happening.

Dreadnaught1905 1:11 pm 05 Mar 16

dungfungus said :

Dreadnaught1905 said :

dungfungus said :

rubaiyat said :

Call me what you like but also send me some photos (peer reviewed) of evidence sea levels are rising now, due to man made climate change.

After you. 😀

The JPL at NASA has a vast amount of sensor data showing sea level rise, with a reported average of 3mm per year since 1992. The data they collect come from a range of sensors including radar altimeters, Orbitography systems, Radiometers and a Light Particle Telescope.

As for peer review, NASA collect the information which is then analysed and reviewed by the NOAA. The information is then reviewed by a range of universities. For example, the university of Colorado has had a long running programme examining this data. (http://sealevel.colorado.edu/).

If that peer review isn’t enough, however, they make 100% of the sensor data publicly available. Have a look here:

http://podaac.jpl.nasa.gov/dataset/JASON-1_SGDR_NETCDF

You can download their data in netcdf, binary or ASCII formats. That will let you build visual representations from sensor data to your hearts content…

Wow! 3mm a year for the last 13 years! Thats a whole 39mm! We are doomed!
I grow zuchinnis bigger than that in my backyard!
I am not interested in sensor data – I want visual evidence. Where are the photos? Everyone has a phone camera (look at the crap that gets on Facebook) so how is it that no one has been able to capture this 39mm sea rise on camera?

A photograph IS a visual representation of sensor data. That’s how a camera works. They have plenty of visual representations of the sensor data coming off the satellite platform.

Oh, and 1992 was somewhat longer than 13 years ago, you may want to multiply those numbers again.

MERC600 11:17 am 05 Mar 16

Dreadnaught1905 said :

dungfungus said :

rubaiyat said :

Call me what you like but also send me some photos (peer reviewed) of evidence sea levels are rising now, due to man made climate change.

After you. 😀

The JPL at NASA has a vast amount of sensor data showing sea level rise, with a reported average of 3mm per year since 1992. The data they collect come from a range of sensors including radar altimeters, Orbitography systems, Radiometers and a Light Particle Telescope.

As for peer review, NASA collect the information which is then analysed and reviewed by the NOAA. The information is then reviewed by a range of universities. For example, the university of Colorado has had a long running programme examining this data. (http://sealevel.colorado.edu/).

If that peer review isn’t enough, however, they make 100% of the sensor data publicly available. Have a look here:

http://podaac.jpl.nasa.gov/dataset/JASON-1_SGDR_NETCDF

You can download their data in netcdf, binary or ASCII formats. That will let you build visual representations from sensor data to your hearts content…

I notice the NOAA are being investigated a little. ‘Dodgy figures ” some say
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/11561629/Top-scientists-start-to-examine-fiddled-global-warming-figures.html

wildturkeycanoe 7:04 am 05 Mar 16

dungfungus said :

Dreadnaught1905 said :

dungfungus said :

rubaiyat said :

Call me what you like but also send me some photos (peer reviewed) of evidence sea levels are rising now, due to man made climate change.

After you. 😀

The JPL at NASA has a vast amount of sensor data showing sea level rise, with a reported average of 3mm per year since 1992. The data they collect come from a range of sensors including radar altimeters, Orbitography systems, Radiometers and a Light Particle Telescope.

As for peer review, NASA collect the information which is then analysed and reviewed by the NOAA. The information is then reviewed by a range of universities. For example, the university of Colorado has had a long running programme examining this data. (http://sealevel.colorado.edu/).

If that peer review isn’t enough, however, they make 100% of the sensor data publicly available. Have a look here:

http://podaac.jpl.nasa.gov/dataset/JASON-1_SGDR_NETCDF

You can download their data in netcdf, binary or ASCII formats. That will let you build visual representations from sensor data to your hearts content…

Wow! 3mm a year for the last 13 years! Thats a whole 39mm! We are doomed!
I grow zuchinnis bigger than that in my backyard!
I am not interested in sensor data – I want visual evidence. Where are the photos? Everyone has a phone camera (look at the crap that gets on Facebook) so how is it that no one has been able to capture this 39mm sea rise on camera?

The Chinese aren’t worried about this apparent sea level rise, their islands in the disputed region are growing in height every year.
History also tells us about coastline cities built well before this century’s cataclysm. Heraclion, Phanagoria, Cleopatra’s palace, Olous, Mulifanua and more. It is assumed that earthquakes have let them slide into the ocean. Could not the same be true for any area on that meets the water today? Why must it be climate change and not geology that is causing these places to rise and fall with time, as it has done since creation?
In Japan, in relation to a large ruin of pyramid structures the following is said – “The last time that these areas were not covered by the ocean was between approximately 8 to 12 thousand years ago, during the last ice age when much of the sea was caught up in the ice caps.”
There you go, not climate change but the ending of the ice-age, as stated by, wait for it….scientists!!
But to sensationalize an issue that we so desperately must have, for whatever economic, political or other reason, our present day scientists just keep harping on about greenhouse gasses as if our lives depend on it. I have the feeling that people across the globe are starting to see through the lies, or are just getting sick and tired of hearing about it and just don’t care any more.
But despite the evidence to the contrary, feel free to keep on bashing coal, petrol and all the other evils in the world like some obscure religion.

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