28 March 2008

Canberra suburbs top the most advantaged in Australia

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From Barton (ACT) to Jilkminggan (NT) the comparison of relative social and economic conditions is widest.

Aboriginal communities in remote areas top the ABS list of most disadvantaged areas in the nation.

Parochial Canberrans might like to knock Charnwood but hey the Charnies are not as disadvantaged as those folk at Symonston and Oakes Estate.

Are you advantaged? Check the table at the bottom of this page.

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pelican said :

How did the research define advantaged, was it purely on income distribution or other factors?

See Post #7 above.

pelican said :

The results are a bit suspect when Weston Creek is listed as disadvantaged but Chapman (a suburb of Weston Creek) is listed in the most advantaged. Weston Creek is not a suburb – how can you compare a region with a single suburb like Richardson or Fyshwick.

“Weston Creek-Stromlo – SSD Bal” is all of the bits of Weston Creek aren’t included in the actual suburbs. In the case of Weston Creek it also includes the settlement at Stromlo which would drag it down a lot.

“Tuggeranong – SSD Bal” is the same.

pelican said :

(People live in Fyswick?! I had no idea.)

Southside Caravan Park. People also live in some of the buildings facing Canberra Ave.

How did the research define advantaged, was it purely on income distribution or other factors?

The results are a bit suspect when Weston Creek is listed as disadvantaged but Chapman (a suburb of Weston Creek) is listed in the most advantaged. Weston Creek is not a suburb – how can you compare a region with a single suburb like Richardson or Fyshwick. (People live in Fyswick?! I had no idea.)

Same goes for Tuggeranong – how can you compare say Kambah with Fadden in this breakdown?

A freind had her car burnt out in Scullin.
That’s the only thing I’ve heard about that suburb.

I figured it was an in-joke. Bloody funny mental image though.

Deadmandrinking2:01 am 29 Mar 08

I know, Proud. No-one burgles their own house.

I’ve had mates living in Charnie, they say it can be rough. Rough as you can get in Canberra, at least.

Weetangera has no public housing at all, hence it’s elevated status.

Many on here would be surprised to learn that O’Connor and Lyneham houses get broken into far more then Charnwood or Holt.

S4anta said :

Holt is disadvantaged becuase of the guinessed up drunken Maelinar stalking the night dressed as a gnome.

I don’t know what this is in reference to, but I’ve been laughing at it all day.

And chapman used to be one of the two suburbs with no govvie housing.
Maybe Weetagnera is the other one?

la mente torbida4:04 pm 28 Mar 08

spoonbill,

Yarra has a decent proportion of public housing (unlike a lot of the more recent suburbs) so that is why it probably doesn’t make the list. Personally, I love the great mix of people that make up yarra, even if it means I have to pick up the discarded empties from my front yard regularly.

CanberraResident3:23 pm 28 Mar 08

OK, Red Hill doesn’t make it into the ACT advantaged list, but Weetangera does? I can only assume that the public housing flats in red Hill are bringing it down the list.

Onya Weeties!

Deadmandrinking said :

I got 9th disadvantaged for the last 4 years before I moved to O’connor. Page certainly didn’t feel disadvantaged, I actually found it quite nice. I think with Canberra having most of it’s public housing spread out through different areas, it’d be difficult to tell, really. Unless you live in Charnie, of course.

if you havnt lived in charnie before, how can you say that?

Lol @ S4anta.

I didn’t eat him, he simply no longer bothers either me, my wife, or any of my immediate neighbours. Personally I put it to the increased police patrols in between Kippax Fair and the Golf Course, rather than any personally attributable action that I would admit to doing on a public website.

I think Anzac may have growled at him (my dog).

I haven’t heard from the Orange gun, he’s either once burned twice shy, or similarly out of action due to increased police presence IVO Holt IGA – I’ve noted they have strayed off the main streets as well to patrol some of the little nooks and cranny’s in the suburb.

I do know that the night stalker and the orange gun man are two different people though. Night stalker is a bit of a lonesome chap, likes long walks in the dark and hiding behind trees in the middle of the Golf Course (at least the bits that aren’t around my house – not that I personally did anything to change his behaviour).

*** DISCLAIMER ***
I don’t think I need to write a disclaimer for that. I haven’t touched the guy, I promise. I just don’t think he likes me, my dog, or my attitude towards skinks who hang out on golf courses hiding behind trees, so therefore doesn’t hang out where I can see him.

Interesting that in the (southside) advantaged list, Chapman and Fadden are ahead of more inner suburbs like Deakin, Yarralumla, Hughes and Curtin.

Deadmandrinking1:42 pm 28 Mar 08

Two suburbs.

Deadmandrinking1:37 pm 28 Mar 08

It’s fine, Thumper, believe me. One of my best mates used to live there and I’d often walk back from there drunk at 3am.

“Disadvantaged” is relative, of course. Scullin and Page are still better off than 70% of the Australian population, according to the ABS.

Here are the rest of the low-ranking ACT suburbs if anyone’s interested:

Holt (better off than 69% of Aussies)
Weston Creek-Stromlo – SSD Bal (67%)
Fyshwick (66%)
Richardson (63%)
Tuggeranong – SSD Bal (61%)
Charnwood (54%)
Oaks Estate (15%)
Jervis Bay Territory (10%)
Symonston (8%)

Deadmandrinking12:10 pm 28 Mar 08

I got 9th disadvantaged for the last 4 years before I moved to O’connor. Page certainly didn’t feel disadvantaged, I actually found it quite nice. I think with Canberra having most of it’s public housing spread out through different areas, it’d be difficult to tell, really. Unless you live in Charnie, of course.

A cannibal gnome perhaps… wheres the orange gun?

I’m bigger than the night stalker. He no longer stalks near my house.

Holt is disadvantaged becuase of the guinessed up drunken Maelinar stalking the night dressed as a gnome.

From the ABS website:

Index of Relative Socio-economic Advantage and Disadvantage (IRSAD)

This index is a general socio-economic index that was created using measures of relative disadvantage (similar to those used in the Index of Relative Disadvantage), as well as measures of relative advantage.

There are 21 measures included, such as: low or high income, internet connection, occupation and education. This index does not include Indigenous status.

A low score indicates relatively greater disadvantage and a lack of advantage in general. For example, an area could have a low score if there are (among other things):
many households with low incomes, or many people in unskilled occupations; AND
few households with high incomes, or few people in skilled occupations.

A high score indicates a relative lack of disadvantage and greater advantage in general. For example, an area may have a high score if there are (among other things):
many households with high incomes, or many people in skilled occupations; AND
few households with low incomes, or few people in unskilled occupations.

Having lived in both the 5th most disadvantaged and the 5th most advantaged suburb I can honestly say there isn’t much difference. Both have local schools, doctors (although Richardson’s Doctor has recently retired) and shops. Apart from better views (with corresponding higher house prices) there isn’t much to tell them apart. I think the statistics reflect the fact that birds of a feather flock together more than anything else.

Where is Tuggeranong – SSD Bal?

i dont have time to read all that jargon…can someone tell me what advantaged / disadvantaged refers to and how they make up that list? I like my adult movies, so why would living in Fyshwick be disadvantaged?

There are some real surprises there re ACT advantaged/disadvantaged.

neanderthalsis9:10 am 28 Mar 08

Wow, I’ve lived and worked in 4 of the top 20 most disadvantaged and 2 of the top 20 most advantaged.

Damn, I knew moving to Richardson was a bad idea. 🙁 I’m disadvantaged! Arrgh!

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