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Canberra too ignorant and un-australian for AFL?

johnboy 2 June 2009 74

Over on The Roar someone called Pippinu has had a lengthy spray on the unworthiness of Canberra, or Sydney for that matter for “the Australian game”:

    One positive for Melburnians is that they get to have a bit of a look at their old MCG scoreboard which will bring back many memories.

    Apart from that, Manuka, and Canberra generally, has very little to offer the AFL, and they should leave the city, and its bureaucrats, to the other codes.

    The lack of understanding and appreciation for the Australian game in Canberra is only rivalled by one other city, and that is Sydney, who are on the verge of getting a second team, when they barely deserve the first one.

Are we unworthy?


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Bundybear Bundybear 7:32 pm 02 Jun 09

‘Carna pies.

Woody Mann-Caruso Woody Mann-Caruso 6:48 pm 02 Jun 09

Doesn’t matter which way you cut it, you get points for ineptitude. If they were fair dinkum about it, they’d just ask the bloke: “Were you aiming for the centre posts?” If he says yes, he shouldn’t get anything for missing his target. But they’re not fair dinkum, and so blokes who can’t aim get compensated – “oh yeah, I totally meant it to go to the left. Points please!”

They probably have urinal troughs installed in their homes because their egos would be crushed when they missed the bowl.

Wellington Sludge Wellington Sludge 5:35 pm 02 Jun 09

chewy14 said :

Wellington Sludge said :

You do get points for missing a goal, though – don’t you?

Nope. You get less points if you get it through the wider markers, and 6 times the points if you get it through the narrower markers. A bit like getting three points in basketball if you take a harder shot from further out, or getting less points in archery the further you are away from the bullseye – it’s all about degrees of accuracy.

Still not sure why people don’t get that – it seems simple to me.

I don’t care about the way they want to score AFL but that is the worst explanation ever.
In Basketball you don’t get points for hitting the ring or the backboard.
In archery if you miss the bullseye you get a certain score depending on how close you were. You have still missed the bullseye.
In AFL if you miss a goal but get it inside the behind posts you get one point. You have still missed the goal.

Again, simple concept. It’s not about “missing the goal”, it’s about accuracy between the more spread out point markers (1 point) and the closer goal markers (6 points). Your archery example illustrates it perfectly – you still get a score if you’re not 100% accurate, as long as you get the arrow in another scoring region.

The original point is that some Rugby followers, who are totally ignorant of the AFL code and it’s rules, use phrases like “you get points for missing a goal” as if it’s the easiest thing in the world to break through a defence and kick the ball between sticks. It’s not. Just watch any match to verify that. The people who make that comment seem to think that they are making an intelligent comment, where it’s really on a par with “well, if you get a rugby ball over the line, they give you points for trying. That’s why it’s a try”

(But then reading the comments about tippy-toes and squealing and nobody touching the man with the ball just shows the level of ignorance there is out there, so I shouldn’t be surprised).

xdave xdave 5:27 pm 02 Jun 09

AFL’s shit

barking toad barking toad 5:17 pm 02 Jun 09

#32 vg – I think Eddie’s his driver now 🙂

chewy14 chewy14 4:11 pm 02 Jun 09

Wellington Sludge said :

You do get points for missing a goal, though – don’t you?

Nope. You get less points if you get it through the wider markers, and 6 times the points if you get it through the narrower markers. A bit like getting three points in basketball if you take a harder shot from further out, or getting less points in archery the further you are away from the bullseye – it’s all about degrees of accuracy.

Still not sure why people don’t get that – it seems simple to me.

I don’t care about the way they want to score AFL but that is the worst explanation ever.
In Basketball you don’t get points for hitting the ring or the backboard.
In archery if you miss the bullseye you get a certain score depending on how close you were. You have still missed the bullseye.
In AFL if you miss a goal but get it inside the behind posts you get one point. You have still missed the goal.

Woody Mann-Caruso Woody Mann-Caruso 4:00 pm 02 Jun 09

mebbe woody was too close to posting time to have read holden caulfield’s previous post.

Read it. Yawn. The fact that an AFL fan had enough hand-eye coordination to type was the most amazing thing about it.

Look, there are obviously some hurt feeling here. How about this – you stand 15m over there, I’ll kick a ball to you, and if you can manage to catch it without dropping it, you get a Special Prize and we all get to call you ‘Mark’. That should make you feel warm and fuzzy.

Wellington Sludge Wellington Sludge 3:49 pm 02 Jun 09

Nambucco Deliria said :

Wellington Sludge said :

There are plenty of people in the ACT who are supporters of an AFL team, so yes we are worthy. However, when moronic comments like “you get points for missing a goal” are bandied about by the ignorant masses, you can start to understand why we are under-appreciated by Victorians. (Not to mention the fact that general NSW and ACT residents do not support their sporting teams with even half the religious fervour that happens in SA, WA and Vic. (as anyone who has lived in those states can attest to).

You do get points for missing a goal, though – don’t you?

Nope. You get less points if you get it through the wider markers, and 6 times the points if you get it through the narrower markers. A bit like getting three points in basketball if you take a harder shot from further out, or getting less points in archery the further you are away from the bullseye – it’s all about degrees of accuracy.

Still not sure why people don’t get that – it seems simple to me.

vg vg 3:28 pm 02 Jun 09

barking toad said :

Collingwood get more spectators at training sessions than most league clubs get at their games.

There’s plenty of passion for AFL in Canberra but it’s mainly for clubs supported from the old VFL. And then there’s the Swans supporters who are gay.

Yeah but who does Alan Didak get his lifts home with again?

Do we really give 2 f*cks what some anonymous internet twat says on a forum? I mean really. His post is as important as my one

peterh peterh 2:57 pm 02 Jun 09

have a look at the protective clothing worn by both nrl and afl players. the afl players are by far less armoured than the nrl players. they aren’t massive lads, they rely on skill, rather than brute force. It is a very energy intensive game. NRL players, standing beside an afl player, seem to dwarf them.

astrojax astrojax 2:43 pm 02 Jun 09

There’s skills (some the same, some different) in all the football codes.

just that in league they need stand about to watch each other express them… mebbe woody was too close to posting time to have read holden caulfield’s previous post. suggest you go back and do so now. +1, holden…

justbands justbands 2:18 pm 02 Jun 09

I’ll pretend to be johnboy here…

“Not the place to debate the relevant merits of each code please people”.

Hehe…sorry jb, but I reckon it was coming soon.

There’s skills (some the same, some different) in all the football codes.

jake555 jake555 2:09 pm 02 Jun 09

chewy14 said :

jake555 said :

Anyone can run, throw a ball backwards and grab someone else’s legs to stop them running.

Except for AFL teams that hire ex Rugby League players and coaches as tackling experts?

Correct, AFL teams that hire ex Rugby League players and coaches as tackling experts cannot grab legs during a tackle. What’s your point?

grundy grundy 2:01 pm 02 Jun 09

Long time AFL supporter here.

chewy14 chewy14 1:59 pm 02 Jun 09

jake555 said :

Anyone can run, throw a ball backwards and grab someone else’s legs to stop them running.

Except for AFL teams that hire ex Rugby League players and coaches as tackling experts?

jake555 jake555 1:51 pm 02 Jun 09

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

you have to dispose of the ball before being tackled

That explains why they jump on their tippy-toes and throw their arms and the ball over their head and screw up their eyes and squeal whenever anybody gets close, then. Then they all fumble and stumble after the randomly bouncing ball again. It’s a game of high skill, that’s for sure.

WMC, there’s nothing random about the bounce of the ball, you just need to know how to read it. Are you a soccer fan perchance?

Please, please, please don’t tell me you’re a rugby league supporter. I’m not having a dig at RL, I can happily sit through a decent game, however, let no RL supporter even begin to claim there is more skill involved than AFL.

Anyone can run, throw a ball backwards and grab someone else’s legs to stop them running.

The Axe Man The Axe Man 1:01 pm 02 Jun 09

djk said :

The Axe Man said :

I think Pippinu has another agenda. Perhaps a Canberra soccer supporter?

quite possible, given his blog (linked from author page in article):

http://pippinu.blogspot.com/

Good work.
I wouldn’t take his opinion for much worth then. Seems to be another in fear of a football code not much to his liking

djk djk 12:05 pm 02 Jun 09

The Axe Man said :

I think Pippinu has another agenda. Perhaps a Canberra soccer supporter?

quite possible, given his blog (linked from author page in article):

http://pippinu.blogspot.com/

Woody Mann-Caruso Woody Mann-Caruso 12:04 pm 02 Jun 09

you have to dispose of the ball before being tackled

That explains why they jump on their tippy-toes and throw their arms and the ball over their head and screw up their eyes and squeal whenever anybody gets close, then. Then they all fumble and stumble after the randomly bouncing ball again. It’s a game of high skill, that’s for sure.

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 12:00 pm 02 Jun 09

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

Oh noes. We’re not worthy for your ‘sport’ in which skinny little boys literally stumble around chasing a ball bouncing out of control. We only have the skills to kick a ball through one set of posts, over a bar, not “three sets so you don’t feel bad if you miss, and along the ground will be fine, son, don’t stretch yourself.” We don’t have the guts to play a game where once somebody actually manages to picks up a ball, nobody can touch the poor diddums.

AFL – Absolutely F.cking Lame.

Sometimes it is better to be thought a fool, than to put that garbage in writing and remove all doubt.

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