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Canberra’s Bianca Elmir rubbed out of Olympic with doping ban

By johnboy - 16 May 2012 42

Foxsports have the sad news that Canberra boxer Bianca Elmir has tested positive to diuretics (banned because they can mask more serious performance enhancing substances) and won’t be going to the London Olympics:

According to reports, Elmir tested positive to a diuretic while competing at the Australian titles in February where she won the 51kg division.

The weight class is one of three divisions being held in the first women’s boxing program at an Olympics, but Elmir was banned from competing at the world championships, which are being held in China – the main qualification route to London.

Boxing Australia officials refused to comment on the issue, which is still before the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority (ASADA), the 30-year-old facing a maximum two-year ban.

Elmir was replaced in the Australian squad at the world championships by Kristy Harris, who lost in the first round.

Elmir reportedly told ASADA she took the tablet to stop swollen ankles on long flights, having been given the medication from a friend while training in Ireland before the national titles.

Got the medication from a friend? Oh dear.

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Canberra’s Bianca Elmir rubbed out of Olympic with doping ban
RAGD 3:43 pm 16 May 12

Why isn’t her coach monitoring what she is taking? Why isn’t her “manager” or doctor being made aware of what she is putting into her system? Granted, ultimately she had the final decision, but surely at that level of competition it really is a team effort. Sadly I feel they have let her down as much as she let herself down.

chewy14 3:40 pm 16 May 12

devils_advocate said :

chewy14 said :

C’mon, surely you can admit that a large proportion of people that box aren’t exactly rocket surgeons?

A large proportion of society in general aren’t exactly rocket surgeons – in my experience, those that throw around unfounded generalisations about things they know nothing about betray themselves as facing particular challenges in the intellectual arena.

Having spent many hours in various boxing gyms I’d say the distribution is fairly representative of society in general, but perhaps with the bottom tail of the distribution chopped off, as the truly dumb are incapable of grasping the strategic elements and tend to self-select out. Or, they’re too busy throwing around unfounded generalisations about things they know nothing about (see above) to devote the neccesary time to training.

Unfounded generalisations like amateur boxing can cause brain damage?:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/05/070502093035.htm

or

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dementia_pugilistica

and another 100 links if you want me to spend more than 2secs on google.

ps. I’ve also spent plenty of time in boxing gyms over the years so perhaps your critique of my comment could just be further proof. I’ve got nothing against boxing or boxers in particular, my comment was simply based on my own observations.

devils_advocate 2:56 pm 16 May 12

chewy14 said :

C’mon, surely you can admit that a large proportion of people that box aren’t exactly rocket surgeons?

A large proportion of society in general aren’t exactly rocket surgeons – in my experience, those that throw around unfounded generalisations about things they know nothing about betray themselves as facing particular challenges in the intellectual arena.

Having spent many hours in various boxing gyms I’d say the distribution is fairly representative of society in general, but perhaps with the bottom tail of the distribution chopped off, as the truly dumb are incapable of grasping the strategic elements and tend to self-select out. Or, they’re too busy throwing around unfounded generalisations about things they know nothing about (see above) to devote the neccesary time to training.

Kerryhemsley 2:43 pm 16 May 12

chewy14 said :

vg said :

HenryBG said :

What a completely rubbish excuse from a professional athlete.

Then again – people don’t go into boxing out of respect for their or other people’s grey matter.

The respected Canberra orthopaedic surgeon who is a former national amateur boxing champ who turned pro may disagree, as would Tom Uren, respected former minister.

But uninformed stereotypes are much easier to collapse into when you have no idea aren’t they

Wow, two whole people that competed in boxing and weren’t a bit thick?

C’mon, surely you can admit that a large proportion of people that box aren’t exactly rocket surgeons?

As for the story, I can’t believe she’s going with the Shane Warne defence.

The Australian Super Heavyweight contender at the London games doesn’t fit the stereotype either.

http://london2012.olympics.com.au/athlete/johan-linde

chewy14 2:26 pm 16 May 12

vg said :

HenryBG said :

What a completely rubbish excuse from a professional athlete.

Then again – people don’t go into boxing out of respect for their or other people’s grey matter.

The respected Canberra orthopaedic surgeon who is a former national amateur boxing champ who turned pro may disagree, as would Tom Uren, respected former minister.

But uninformed stereotypes are much easier to collapse into when you have no idea aren’t they

Wow, two whole people that competed in boxing and weren’t a bit thick?

C’mon, surely you can admit that a large proportion of people that box aren’t exactly rocket surgeons?

As for the story, I can’t believe she’s going with the Shane Warne defence.

vg 1:54 pm 16 May 12

HenryBG said :

What a completely rubbish excuse from a professional athlete.

Then again – people don’t go into boxing out of respect for their or other people’s grey matter.

The respected Canberra orthopaedic surgeon who is a former national amateur boxing champ who turned pro may disagree, as would Tom Uren, respected former minister.

But uninformed stereotypes are much easier to collapse into when you have no idea aren’t they

Vegemite 1:33 pm 16 May 12

Aboslutely NO sympathy for this girl. The resources and training given to all athletes at this level on anti-doping are first class. Blaming it on a friend is up there with Warnie and his mum. Pathetic….. and the CT’s article is just as pathetic – reporting it like she is the victim….

HenryBG 12:57 pm 16 May 12

What a completely rubbish excuse from a professional athlete.

Then again – people don’t go into boxing out of respect for their or other people’s grey matter.

EvanJames 11:51 am 16 May 12

The flight stockings do a good job of preventing swollen feet/ankles, i question how effective the diuretic would be, as it’s non-selective about removing fluid. I smell a giant rat. She got sprung.

devils_advocate 11:34 am 16 May 12

Ah the pain of making weight.

How I don’t miss thee. Not even a little bit.

Skidd Marx 11:21 am 16 May 12

Anyone who has experienced kankles knows it is truly a horrible affliction. Definitely worth risking an Olympic berth for.

vg 10:23 am 16 May 12

Diuretics are also used to assist fighters to make weight, their primary purpose being to assist in dropping water weight. The fact they mask something else is, in combat sports with weight divisions, secondary but just as important.

What a bollocksy excuse. Want to prevent swollen ankles on flights? Wear flight socks and do some exercise/movement on the plane.

carnardly 10:13 am 16 May 12

ps – there are processes that athletes can apply to take drugs that may contain ingredients on the list. If she wanted to take the diuretics – she should’ve and could’ve contacted ASADA before swallowing it.

carnardly 10:12 am 16 May 12

sorry – having good friends who have been national level athletes, I have no sympathy for this girl. You do not put any pharmaceutical in your body without checking if every component in it is on the ASADA list. Whether it is performance enhancing or not, if its on the list you can’t take it – or at least know you could produce a positive result from it.

My friends would before getting any script from a doctor, explain they were athletes and they would bring up the ASADA list and check whether the product was on it or not.

For anyone trying out for national teams etc – Do not take anything – even cold tablets or nose sprays without checking if the ingredients are on the prohibited list.

AKT 9:57 am 16 May 12

As sad as that is for her, you must be thick as a brick if you are going to take medication from a friend and not check or seek advice from your coaching staff’s medical officer…Good Grief.

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