Kanberra’s Konservative Kontender for Chief Minister Kaught on Kamera at Krazy Korean Kult Konference

GSAAlliance 3 October 2008 82

[First filed: October 02, 2008 @ 14:24]

Zed’s Cult Connection:

Zed Seselja is on the record having admitted, while being an elected MLA, to attending a week-long conference in Korea in 2005 which was organised by a political wing of the Unification Church known as the ‘IIWFP Universal Peace Federation’.

The Church gave Zed a all-expenses paid, first-class ticket to the cult conference as well as a personal gift from the ‘Reverend’ Moon himself of a golden tea set of unknown value. If it weren’t for the tea set, which Zed was forced to declare, Zed’s cult connection would still be a secret. It is rumoured that Zed keeps the tea set in pride of place on his desk at parliament, and in times of great stress lovingly strokes and fondles it.

About the Moonies:

The ‘Reverend’ Moon is infamous for running a world-wide cult known as the Unification Church . Famous primarily for their bizarre mass-wedding ceremonies, the church has a much darker side.

Some of the billionaire ‘Reverend’ Moon’s public statements include:

Repeatedly referring to himself variously as ‘the Messiah’, ‘the second coming of Jesus’, ‘the King of America’ and ‘the Emperor of the World’

Referring to homosexuals as ‘dirty dung eating dogs’

Making offensive statements about the Holocaust

Comparing his time spent in prison for tax fraud to the persecution of Jesus.

The Unification Church has also been named by a U.S. Congressional report as having been involved in the illegal manufacture and distribution massive amounts of weaponry including thousands of M-16 assault rifles and anti-aircraft weapons.

About the Cult Conference:

An official website of the Church reveals some of the matters discussed at the conference attended by Zed. The website describes how ‘engrossed participants’ had ‘tears in their eyes throughout different lectures’, which included ‘presentations on HIV/AIDS Prevention, emphasizing Father Moon’s “one man, one woman” system as the ultimate solution to the spread of the disease and other sexually transmitted diseases. For most participants it was the first time to hear of a character development approach to combating the scourge of HIV.’

This conference was presided over by a mysterious church official known as ‘Reverend Kwak’, known to be ‘Reverend’ Moon’s closest advisor and confidant.

‘Reverend Kwak’ was involved in the notorious incident at the U.S. Senate in 2004 when, to the outrage of a number of U.S. Senators present, the Reverend Moon emerged dressed in a royal gown and, after having an ‘ornate crown’ placed on his head, proceeded to deliver a lengthy speech in which he claimed he was “sent to Earth . . . to save the world’s six billion people. . . . Emperors, kings and presidents . . . have declared to all Heaven and Earth that Reverend Sun Myung Moon is none other than humanity’s Saviour, Messiah, Returning Lord and True Parent.” Reverend Kwak later explained that ‘(the) crowning means America is saying to Father, ‘Please become my king’.

The Church website also gives feedback from participants at the conference:

‘I believe Father Moon is a servant of God. His vision comes from God.’
‘I really want to contribute to whatever IIFWP is asking us to do.’
‘The work of the IIFWP connects our work and heart and brings us closer to God.’
‘This parliamentarian’s seminar has changed my attitude in my leadership.’

Zed has previously explained his attendance at the conference as merely accepting a freebie, and that he didn’t know what they were about. Given that ultra-right NSW Liberal MP and Alistair Coe mentor David Clarke is a known long-time associate of the Moonies, does this explanation stack up?

Note: The website from which these quotes and pictures come from has recently been shut down, while all others remain. Coincidence?

Zed pre and post-brainwashing:

[ED – You can click on the images for a larger view]

UPDATED: A helpful source has found us the source of the pictures and the conference quotes.

ANOTHER UPDATE: Jimbruce has posted a lengthy and learned comment on the subject of the moonies and their attempts to influence politics in Australia which I commend to any of you wondering what the fuss is about.


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82 Responses to Kanberra’s Konservative Kontender for Chief Minister Kaught on Kamera at Krazy Korean Kult Konference
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bd84 bd84 10:06 pm 03 Oct 08

I don’t really care if took an all expenses paid trip to the moon from the man on the moon?

The author obviously has some sort of political motivation for writing the rubbish..

pptvb pptvb 6:28 pm 03 Oct 08

Remember. Every religion, apart from your own, is a cult.

Granny Granny 5:49 pm 03 Oct 08

New Yeah said :

jimbruce said :

New Yeah said :

There is apparently a Moonist ‘holy tree’ on the hill behind the Canberra Yacht Club

Rad. I’m going to check that out next time I’m there.

Me too!

: )

New Yeah New Yeah 5:47 pm 03 Oct 08

jimbruce said :

New Yeah said :

There is apparently a Moonist ‘holy tree’ on the hill behind the Canberra Yacht Club

Rad. I’m going to check that out next time I’m there.

Regarding the ‘moribund’ status of the Unification Church, I must add that Australia seems to be a tough market for Asian Christian new religious movements to establish a presence in. Beyond the ex-pat crowd there seem to be few ‘normal’ Australians who are willing to buy into this stuff.

The pacific states and Africa can be much more fertile for proselytising.

And I’m still wondering why Zed got involved.

jimbruce jimbruce 5:25 pm 03 Oct 08

New Yeah said :

jimbruce – does the Unification Church have ‘churches’ or other institutions that members of the public can visit? And does it have any ongoing presence in Canberra (besides Zed, perhaps)?

Thanks

Canberra? – not that I’m aware of. Its never been large enough to have ‘churches’ in Australia in the normal sense, and I don’t think there has been a missionary centre here in Canberra since the late eighties. (There is apparently a Moonist ‘holy tree’ on the hill behind the Canberra Yacht Club.)

A Moonist ‘youth centre’ was built on a farm at Jerangle outside Cooma in the late seventies – it attracted quite a deal of press (and RAAF) attention at the time, but I do not think it ever became operative. I don’t know if the Movement still owns it – I’d be interested to find out.

The few surviving Moonist centres in Australia are in Burwood (Sydney) and in Brisbane. Let me stress again that numbers are very small.

A look at the Australian church’s home page is instructive, both in getting an idea of numbers and activity and also an idea of how moribund the organisation has become in Australia.

http://www.ffwpu.asn.au/

Missionary activity in Australia failed, so the few remaining full time Moonists have focussed increasingly on small Pacific islands (where the cult is not as well known) and on front group activities focusing on clerics, academics and especially, politicians. There are a number of businesses run by members in Australia, usually linked directly or indirectly with Moon’s business empire. Among the more bizarre was a short-lived dating and introduction agency run out of Sydney – one can only imagine some of the marketting slogans. But I’ll leave that to you lot. 🙂

neanderthalsis neanderthalsis 4:48 pm 03 Oct 08

So Zed got an freebie invite to something called the Universal Peace Federation Conference? Aspiring pollie, chance to mingle with like minded conservatives, who could refuse?

He doesn’t look very excited in the photos either.

Maybe he did what many conference delegates do and turned up for the first half a day, got his bag of goodies (a gold tea seems a little better than the traditional wine cooler and thermos cup that I tend to get at conferences), got his photo taken to prove he was there and then buggered off to do some sightseeing.

Granny Granny 3:40 pm 03 Oct 08

jimbruce said :

Or a better explanation: I originally posted this as a separate article by way of commentary, the mods suggested I post it as comment. So this version was posted from an email, with a few spelling and grammatical mistakes sorted. Hence the nonconformist formatting.

Good enough, conspiracy buffs? 🙂

Thanks for that jimbruce, however I was under the impression that it was posted by GSAAlliance ….

New Yeah New Yeah 3:33 pm 03 Oct 08

jimbruce – does the Unification Church have ‘churches’ or other institutions that members of the public can visit? And does it have any ongoing presence in Canberra (besides Zed, perhaps)?

Thanks

jimbruce jimbruce 3:32 pm 03 Oct 08

Or a better explanation: I originally posted this as a separate article by way of commentary, the mods suggested I post it as comment. So this version was posted from an email, with a few spelling and grammatical mistakes sorted. Hence the nonconformist formatting.

Good enough, conspiracy buffs? 🙂

jimbruce jimbruce 3:24 pm 03 Oct 08

Thumper said :

Strange format to the posting. Was the majority cut and pasted from elsewhere?

From my notes.

johnboy johnboy 3:01 pm 03 Oct 08

Thumper said :

Strange format to the posting. Was the majority cut and pasted from elsewhere?

Long boring story Thumper, but I can tell you there’s no conspiracy.

New Yeah New Yeah 2:45 pm 03 Oct 08

jimbruce said :

Stupidy or strategy? Dupe or ideological fellow traveler? Only you can
be the judge …

I’ll hold judgement until Zed reveals what is going on. But until then I can’t help but have my suspicions about any aspiring pollie who is linked to the ‘Third Adam’.

There is a vocal ‘anti-cult movement’ who can be just as loopy as the groups they attack, so it is easy for these discussions to degenerate into agenda-driven drivel.

Thumper – true. The formatting is a bit odd. I wonder if this has been posted elsewhere.

Thumper Thumper 2:37 pm 03 Oct 08

Strange format to the posting. Was the majority cut and pasted from elsewhere?

jimbruce jimbruce 1:54 pm 03 Oct 08

Ok, as a long time Moon watcher (thesis on the Unification Church in
Australia in the late eighties, school friend still a Moonist in
America) let me make a few comments on Zed and ‘True Father’.

Zed is not the only Australian Liberal to wander ‘innocently’ along to
a Moonist conference.

Ultra-rightist NSW upper house Liberal David Clarke, of
‘Taliban’/’Uglies’ fame was outed in Crikey (with a little help from
moi) in late 2005 for doing exactly the same thing. If Zed is even
vaguely cogniscent of Liberal affairs, he should have paid attention
to the fallout from that.

The cult has a history of cultivating predominantly right wing
politicians to support Moon through their involvement in and support
of Moon front groups variously related to anti-communism, family
values, world peace, or other buzz word initiatives/motherhood
statements. Some of these have been unwitting or innocent dupes,
others are strategic fellow travelers. Either way, their name gets used a ‘supporters’ of Moon’s theocratic ambitions.

David Clarke was at one time
actively promoting various Moon front groups in Australia.

Whatever topic the front group starts with, the (garden) path always
leads to worship of Moon and his teachings, the ‘Divine Principle’,
and Moonist plans for a theocratic world government.

Sun Myung Moon’s messianic cult (known variously as the Moonies, the
Unification Church, The Family Federation for World Peace and
Unification, Ambassadors for Peace and dozens of other front
organisations) has never numbered more than a hundred or so people in
Australia, and effectively collapsed in the late nineteen eighties.
The various remaining front groups are all run by just two or three
key people. In the centre back of Zed’s group photograph I can
identify the Rev Paul Saver (blonde, blue shirt), one of Australia’s
few active Moonists and the guy who probably set up the Zed jaunt.
Saver is active throughout the southern Pacific in establishing links
between naive or trip-hungry politicians and various Moon front
groups.

While the cult’s numbers worldwide have also collapsed (no more mass
weddings) under the weight of messianic failure, Moon’s embarrassing
‘sinless’ offspring, increasing publicity, criminal convictions and
actions by a number of western governments, the aging millionaire
arms-manufacturer and self-proclaimed messiah retains considerable
influence in the US through his control of the right-wing Washington
Times newspaper, political alliance with key Uber-Republicans,
organisational sponsorship of ‘Intelligent Design’ advocates and
government-funded premarital celibacy programs, and his sponsorship of
selected serving and retired politicians.

Moon is a colourful and controversial character. Best known for his
self-proclaimed messiahship, hillbilly theology (part Christian, but
largely an indigenous Korean mix of shamanism and Confusionism), mass
weddings, controversial sect recruitment practices, shady associations
with various nationalist/anti-communist/far right groups, and
anti-semitic, anti-gay rhetoric, Moon became the focus of fresh
controversy in the US in 2004 when a front group arranged for his
crowning as ‘King of Peace’ in a US Senate Building with several
congressmen in attendance (strange but true). See investigative
journalist John Gorenfield’s blog at http://www.gorenfeld.net/book/

And lest you think its only the Liberals…

One Moon front group is the Interreligious Peace Sports Festival
(IPSF). In 2006, the group organised an Australian tour for a
Singaporean Muslim Football team, Nova Certeza. The aim as always, was
to gain contact with community leaders and politicians to assay them
for possible use in furthering the Moon organisation’s goals. When it
visited the ACT, the group’s Belconnen reception was attended by
Senator for the ACT, Gary Humphries and then ACT Legislative Assembly
Speaker, Wayne Berry MLA.

See http://upf.org.au/news/winter06.htm for details.

Stupidy or strategy? Dupe or ideological fellow traveler? Only you can
be the judge …

Granny Granny 11:42 am 03 Oct 08

HateMachine said :

In Molonglo you’ve also got Jacqui Burke, who Zed is ruthlessly knifing in the back in favour of Giulia. And there’s no love lost between Zed and Clinton White, the former Stefaniak Chief of Staff having a final pre-retirement shot.

You have claimed that:

1. Zed Selselja is ruthlessly knifing Jacqqui Burke in the back in favour of Giulia Jones.
2. There’s no love lost between Zed and Clinton White.

Can you provide facts to substantiate this slander? Or is the law only for other people? And what makes you such an expert, Hedda Hopper?

peterh peterh 11:22 am 03 Oct 08

Thumper said :

Yeah, but no-one reads it.

Actually, I used to. then I found enlightenment and started reading RA. now I look at the CT for amusement and Jack W’s blog posts, with bagging out by one particular poster.

Thumper Thumper 11:07 am 03 Oct 08

Yeah, but no-one reads it.

D-Man D-Man 11:04 am 03 Oct 08

peterh said :

considering that if you dug for dirt on Stanhope

It’s called The Canberra Times. I’ve heard it comes out every day.

Skidbladnir Skidbladnir 10:03 am 03 Oct 08

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

The only question that matters is: is it true?

Your sense of politics is one of the least developed in town, if you really believe that, WMC.

The important questions are mostly “How can this change things?” and “How can we use this?”.

I think whoever created this was asking themselves “Is it true enough?”

peterh peterh 9:36 am 03 Oct 08

considering that if you dug for dirt on Stanhope, there would semi trailer loads of it, it would seem strange if zed didn’t get the same attention. if the korean visit is it, his one “indiscretion”, then he would win on being cleaner than his opposite number.

what about Stanhope’s mistakes?

Let’s see….

The al Grassby statue and subsequent denial of its existence.
The 2003 Fires
The coroner inquest
My absolute favorite – If I had done this, I would have been locked up for treason….

Publishing the Fed Govt’s Anti-Terrorism Laws on the internet.
as it says in the CT article:

Prime Minister John Howard has condemned the ACT Government for publishing copies of the Commonwealth’s controversial new anti-terrorism laws on the internet.

The ACT Chief Minister, Jon Stanhope, released a draft copy of the new laws on his website yesterday.

Mr Howard said Mr Stanhope had been irresponsible for releasing the draft laws, which are to be introduced to federal Parliament on October 31.

“It’s important that governments, no matter what political stances you might take, should have the capacity to talk to each other in confidence. And that legislation was given in confidence,” Mr Howard told reporters.

what if the draft laws were written by the Rudd Govt? would stanhope be looked upon kindly by the PM?

no way.

he has made some contributions to the ACT, but he has made some monumental mistakes as well.

we changed from Lib to the ALP in fed govt, as we weren’t happy with the incumbent.

perhaps this will happen here in the act too.

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