Canberra's Owen Campbell spontaneously combusts on Australia's Got Talent

“Music from major labels does nothing but narrow your field of choice and purposefully erodes your artistic literacy.”

Really, so if someone purchases something from the major labels their “artistic literacy” has been eroded. Uh hu. There is a huge variety of music out there, independent or major label seems pretty irrelevant to me. If you like the music then buy it, listen to it. If anything you seem to be advocating narrowing down other peoples “artistic literacy” to what you consider “real music”.

“They also seek to suppress the voice and economic sustainability of real musicians who refuse the reduction of their art to appeal to the lowest common denominator”

If that was the case how come musicians such as Owen exist, surely by now the evil major labels would have suppressed and crushed them into the dust. Yet the major labels are struggling and there is a larger variety of music easily available than ever before. The major labels lost, perhaps it is time to find a new scapegoat to blame for the fact that not everyone wants to listen to your “real music”.

“real musicians” and “lowest common denominator” just make you look like an elitist snob. Who appointed you as arbiter to decide who is or isn’t a “real musician”.

“Your musical choices aren’t harmless fun”

Yes, they are. I avoid the neo nazi and gangsta rap genres and as far as I know no one was badly hurt in the production of “Wannabe”.

“Maybe you are happy paying significantly extra to a mutli-national to choose your iTunes library only to never see that money re-invested in local arts endeavours..
Or you can be community minded and check out what’s available independently or locally. It takes a bit more effort but is worth it in the long run.”

Or I could pick and choose from a variety of different sources that satisfies my wide taste in music, very much like a lot of other people. If I purchase a Lady Gaga track from iTunes, that doesn’t preclude me from purchasing hand crafted jewelry directly from the artist or seeing a local band down at the pub. How anyone could think that one precludes the other shows how narrow minded, shallow and elitist you are.

If you want to listen to jingly jangly slide guitar, good for you, it’s not my cup of tea but I’m happy it exists and gives other people pleasure, but you can f^%k right off when you start trying to dictate to me what I should or shouldn’t listen to because you appointed yourself music god.

I heard the major music labels shot JFK.

Perfectly put, bloodnut!

phototext said :

@ #52

“It always makes me laugh how some people feel the need to belittle music styles that doesn’t fit their narrow definition of ‘real music’.

Why are you so threatened by it that you need to go on the attack?”

+1

Yep, very bizarre, but very human. I think it’s the same part of the brain that sparks up when people get into Holden vs Ford….It’s meaningless tribalism.

Look forget Danni for a second.

It’s actually not harmless fun or meaningless tribalism.

Music from major labels does nothing but narrow your field of choice and purposefully erodes your artistic literacy.

They also seek to suppress the voice and economic sustainability of real musicians who refuse the reduction of their art to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

Your musical choices aren’t harmless fun, and it’s a choice that’s slightly more sophisticated than your brand of bourbon or car.

Maybe you are happy paying significantly extra to a mutli-national to choose your iTunes library only to never see that money re-invested in local arts endeavours..

Or you can be community minded and check out what’s available independently or locally. It takes a bit more effort but is worth it in the long run.

Which – back on topic – is the difference between danni minogue and owen campbell – one supports the devil and one actually (whether you realise it or not) supports the growth of your local community.

@ #52

“It always makes me laugh how some people feel the need to belittle music styles that doesn’t fit their narrow definition of ‘real music’. They also have a need to insult anyone who may like a different type of music.
What is interesting is that on the most part, these people would normally consider themselves to be liberal and accepting of other peoples beliefs and choices in almost every other way.
Personally I am not a fan of Meldodic Death Metal, Spouge, Partido Alto or Danni Minogue but I’m sure other people enjoy them and I have no problem with them enjoying whatever harmless fun they like.
Why are you so threatened by it that you need to go on the attack?”

+1

Yep, very bizarre, but very human. I think it’s the same part of the brain that sparks up when people get into Holden vs Ford, Nikon vs Canon, my football team vs your football team, Apple vs Microsoft, Left vs Right, Jim Beam vs Jack Daniels arguments. It’s meaningless tribalism.

Damn, I missed saying that, f*ck, this guy can play, I mean, really play….

Not quite Daniel Champagne play, but still way up there. Way beyond plonkers like me 🙂

Oh, Thumper, you cannot be serious.

Daniel is an amazing player, percussive guitarist and interpreter of others’ music. But in terms of really laying it on the line and paying those dues that mean you hone your craft and don’t make a deal with the devil down at the crossroads, I think you’ll find Owen has earned his stripes and accolades.

johnboy said :

I’m sorry but people who don’t like danni minogue don’t like music.

let’s check the relativist bulldust at the door.

We’ve had pedophile defence on this site today and we’re not adding Danni Minogue defence to the list.

They’re talking at cross purposes: Dannii *does* have talents.
They just aren’t *musical* talents, they are a talent for self-promotion, and a talent for riding the coat-tails of her equally untalented sister’s success at selling manufactured pop music to people with defective talent sensors.

Can we deport Brian?

Calling Owen an arse? Owen only cracked a few bad jokes at some unprofessional judges (who shuld have judged him on his talent & nthing else), Brian had an affair with another women and broke up a family by leading with his penis.

Ask his ex wife who the arse might be……….

As for Owen *insert arms up emoticon here*, I might give him a tenner next time I see him for the laugh of the year so far with the boy band retort. Pure gold.

Perhaps when he’s spent a few more years busking and doing small venues without ever getting a recording contract he might learn to control that hair trigger temper.

I think he was great – and the audience agreed. It’s bullshit to have 3 judges, clearly all ‘on the same team’. The audience should get an equal vote – because he would have got in then. a) he’s talented and b) what did he do wrong, other than have a joke?

Ha! Never seen Danni Minogue let down her guard and look sour, petulant and vindictive before! Good on you OC!

johnboy said :

I’m sorry but people who do like danni minogue don’t like music.

let’s check the relativist bulldust at the door.

We’ve had pedophile defence on this site today and we’re not adding Danni Minogue defence to the list.

Is that what you meant to say?

Anyway, a wise man (me) once said: “really camp guys like Kylie, and really bicurious European guys like Danni”.

Like the sisters, one wants to be the other but won’t admit it. That is all needed to be said on the matter.

phototext said :

The UK charts would say otherwise. You do realise that there is a world outside our borders?

This is the internet. I do not believe there is a world outside my own beliefs. If there is, its wrong.

bloodnut said :

Diggety said :

Bad example bloodnut.

So sorry about that.

Here’s one with moving pictures attached that might make more sense to you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT3xZDMvR-A

But please – enjoy her success.

Waste as much time talking about that lady as you like.

Just leave my durries out of it.

bloodnut said :

Actually it’s more like smoking. To each their own – but the decent thing to do is educate people that it’s sh*t created by a corporation to steal your money. But enjoy.

It always makes me laugh how some people feel the need to belittle music styles that doesn’t fit their narrow definition of ‘real music’. They also have a need to insult anyone who may like a different type of music.

What is interesting is that on the most part, these people would normally consider themselves to be liberal and accepting of other peoples beliefs and choices in almost every other way.

Personally I am not a fan of Meldodic Death Metal, Spouge, Partido Alto or Danni Minogue but I’m sure other people enjoy them and I have no problem with them enjoying whatever harmless fun they like.

Why are you so threatened by it that you need to go on the attack?

Diggety said :

Bad example bloodnut.

So sorry about that.

Here’s one with moving pictures attached that might make more sense to you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT3xZDMvR-A

But please – enjoy her success.

bloodnut said :

phototext said :

@ #42

God forbid the peasants should enjoy entertainment that doesn’t fit your worthy ideals.

Having fun, how dare they!

Actually it’s more like smoking. To each their own – but the decent thing to do is educate people that it’s sh*t created by a corporation to steal your money.

Corporations ‘stealing my money’?? Yet Governments make the biggest profit in between me and the ‘corporation’ I choose to trade with.

And tobacco wasn’t ‘created’, it evolved and grows in the ground. Smoking on the other hand has been around abut 5900 years before corporations were invented.

Bad example bloodnut.

HenryBG said :

6matt9 said :

New Yeah said :

McFadden – “he could have won the show”

Fo sho, a blues slide guitarist is going to win Australia’s Got Talent. *cue valley girl accent* “As if”.

Good on Owen for saying what everyone with any semblance of musical integrity thinks. Not sure what the nannas in the audience thought.

I don’t agree with your last comment. Why bother going on the show in the first place if your plan is to be rude to the judges? I’m a musician…played in local bands since I was 15…I believe I have musical integrity but I certainly wouldn’t have behaved like that. Defeats the purpose doesn’t it?

Well, I *do* agree with that comment – the judges are allowed to be total cocks, and the entrants on these talentless quests are expected to kow-tow to them? #@%$ ’em.
Good on Owen.
“My aim isn’t to be in a boy band, chief”.
10/10.

These sorts of TV shows are complete rubbish, why would somebody like Owen be on it in the first place, that’s the mystery?

+1 on all points

Gungahlin Al said :

I love Owen’s music. Bought a CD off him. And stop to listen whenever he’s around. Beautiful slide…
Yeah that was a bit of a brain fade. But it was nowhere as bad as it appeared when watching the careful splice job done for the Sunrise piece! That was a real hachet job – worthy of A Current Affair. 🙁

But anyone ready to sound off should realise how stressful it is to find yourself in front of a huge audience. And you can do or say dumb things under that kind of stress

Owen owned up and that’s a credit to him – just as it was for a certain other high profile apology recently. I’m glad he’s getting another go because they really see some outstanding music. But it will probably be even more stressful for him after all this. It’ll be a real test…

+1. Well said.

phototext said :

@ #42

God forbid the peasants should enjoy entertainment that doesn’t fit your worthy ideals.

Having fun, how dare they!

Actually it’s more like smoking. To each their own – but the decent thing to do is educate people that it’s sh*t created by a corporation to steal your money. But enjoy.

@ #42

God forbid the peasants should enjoy entertainment that doesn’t fit your worthy ideals.

Having fun, how dare they!

“…and I bet he gets a larger than ever audience…”

as well as lots of free beer.

phototext said :

Danni has definitely made it

You do a very good job of pointing out that ‘making it’ is a relative perception subject to the experience of the beholder. For me in Australia, Danni is a bit of a washed up nothing, while for you her she has obviously ‘made it’.

It is funny though that Dani Minogue chose to point out on national TV that there is somehow a causal link between supremely talented and ‘making it’…

When in fact, for some – let’s use Van Gough as an example – ‘making it’ is simply a lifetime spent creating and contributing to your own arts development irregardless of profit.

The truth is that is no causal link between talent and popular opinion – Tony Abbott highlights this on a daily basis.

As you highlighted – for Danni Minogue, ‘making it’ is causally linked to slicing off what little artistic integrity you may have once possessed in order to profit from a demographic that consists solely of sunburnt chavs in Ibitha.

So when Danni asked Owen Campbell – ‘why do you think you’re so talented but you haven’t made it’, Owen should have said – ‘because it’d mean turning out like you’.

johnboy said :

For those wanting to see what the fuss is about Owen is playing at The Phoenix tonight from 9pm.

…and I bet he gets a larger than ever audience…

I love Owen’s music. Bought a CD off him. And stop to listen whenever he’s around. Beautiful slide…
Yeah that was a bit of a brain fade. But it was nowhere as bad as it appeared when watching the careful splice job done for the Sunrise piece! That was a real hachet job – worthy of A Current Affair. 🙁

But anyone ready to sound off should realise how stressful it is to find yourself in front of a huge audience. And you can do or say dumb things under that kind of stress

Owen owned up and that’s a credit to him – just as it was for a certain other high profile apology recently. I’m glad he’s getting another go because they really see some outstanding music. But it will probably be even more stressful for him after all this. It’ll be a real test…

For those wanting to see what the fuss is about Owen is playing at The Phoenix tonight from 9pm.

i was going to inquire as to who the surly cow in the middle of the judging panel is – but nonetheless, i will still ask: who is this daniel minogue thing? indeed, who is carl sandilegs too? what has he ever done?

i am a little flummoxed at where the responses herein (and elsewhere) get ‘arrogance’ and ‘nasty’ in their assessment of this performance. and does no-one (especially among that elite judging panel) have anything like a semblence of a sense of humour? australia may well have talent, but i find it exceedingly unlikely that this pulp commercial teev will ever uncover it…

this is why people hate canberrans…what a d*ouche – and the performance wasn’t good either. so over those “boho” chic (although he’s more hobo than boho) backpacking types who think mainstream success and personal hygiene are beneath them.

at least gussy up for the TV a bit…

however if this is the most awkward audition on the show, it must be pretty dull!

“Also it’s hard to mount a sustainable argument that Danni has, in any serious sense, “made it”. Really of any success she has had as an adult, much of it was attributable to having a famous sister. I think she was on YTT but it’s not as if her music was a huge success.”

LOL.

Danni has definitely made it, she may not be Gaga big but she has done pretty well for herself in England and Europe and not just as Kylie’s sister. In parts of Europe she is worshiped in the club scene and she is much bigger than Kylie on mainland Europe.

“but it’s not as if her music was a huge success”

The UK charts would say otherwise. You do realise that there is a world outside our borders?

6matt9 said :

HenryBG said :

6matt9 said :

New Yeah said :

McFadden – “he could have won the show”

Fo sho, a blues slide guitarist is going to win Australia’s Got Talent. *cue valley girl accent* “As if”.

Good on Owen for saying what everyone with any semblance of musical integrity thinks. Not sure what the nannas in the audience thought.

I don’t agree with your last comment. Why bother going on the show in the first place if your plan is to be rude to the judges? I’m a musician…played in local bands since I was 15…I believe I have musical integrity but I certainly wouldn’t have behaved like that. Defeats the purpose doesn’t it?

Well, I *do* agree with that comment – the judges are allowed to be total cocks, and the entrants on these talentless quests are expected to kow-tow to them? #@%$ ’em.
Good on Owen.
“My aim isn’t to be in a boy band, chief”.
10/10.

These sorts of TV shows are complete rubbish, why would somebody like Owen be on it in the first place, that’s the mystery?

Most reality TV is rubbish but that’s hardly the point. He chose to go on there as a serious musician. I doubt the judges expect anything other than respect. Wouldn’t you be the same? Don’t you respond better if someone is respectful? I watched the episode tonight out of curiosity and there were a lot of talented people on it. Not only that, it looks like Owen is getting another shot at it next week. He clearly doesn’t think it’s rubbish.

You don’t get the point man. He is a serious musician.

I’ve played for a long time. I’m not the best singer, I’m not the best guitarist, I’m not the best bassist or piano player, but I can write songs and I’m not bad at all of the previous. I guess over the years I’ve played a couple of thousand gigs, I guess….

And yet, I wouldn’t go on a program like that because I’d be seriously bagged out…

Bagged out by fucking Danni Minogue and Kyle Sandilands?

Therein lies my point.

And probably Owen’s.

What!? I know he is a serious musician. HE CHOSE TO GO ON THE SHOW. What’s your point? Just because you wouldn’t go on there and deal with Kyle and the other judges doesn’t mean someone else isn’t prepared to put up with them.

Owen is a serious musician who decided he’d try his luck on a talent show. Did you even watch it? He’s getting another crack at it next episode. Your post makes no sense.

dpm said :

johnboy said :

Hard to think of a higher honour for a human being than to be rejected by Danni Minogue for being 28 and “not making it”.

Yeah, WTF was that comment about?!
Um, Danni, isn’t your show about find people in Aus with talent who haven’t ‘made it’ due to the fickle music (or other) industries?? What a clown!
I thought he answered that question really well (luckily!). It would have been so easy to come back with a smart arse comment there! Hahahaha!

Also it’s hard to mount a sustainable argument that Danni has, in any serious sense, “made it”. Really of any success she has had as an adult, much of it was attributable to having a famous sister. I think she was on YTT but it’s not as if her music was a huge success.

johnboy said :

Hard to think of a higher honour for a human being than to be rejected by Danni Minogue for being 28 and “not making it”.

Yeah, WTF was that comment about?!
Um, Danni, isn’t your show about find people in Aus with talent who haven’t ‘made it’ due to the fickle music (or other) industries?? What a clown!
I thought he answered that question really well (luckily!). It would have been so easy to come back with a smart arse comment there! Hahahaha!

“Thanks to Owen for providing comment.”

I was scratching my head trying to work out which comment was from Owen. Thanks Milkman for pointing it out, what a pisser 🙂

As he said I’m not Owen, I’ve seen him busking a number of times and chatted a bit as well. He’s admitted on FB that he went in with some attitude, but really, based on the way he performs I didn’t see anything in the show other than an effort to connect with the audience, which was taken the wrong way. He actually did show humility when it came down to it and in my mind still has his dignity. He just made a mistake in believing the judges would treat him like a human being. He only barked (and mildly) was he was bitten…he tried to interject to what Brian was saying to which B said “are you going to keep talking…”, although he had been sitting back listening. Brian actually was cut over nothing prior to the performance and then ignited it all because he’s a dope.

Hard to think of a higher honour for a human being than to be rejected by Danni Minogue for being 28 and “not making it”.

I thought that McFaddens attitude after Owen made the initial mistake (likely due to nerves) was uncalled for and inflammatory, just the attitude McFadden expressed when he said it.. and then followed it up with the ‘you better’… wtf is with that?

Without those comments it wouldn’t have deteriorated as badly as it did.

Maybe he’s been watching too much DIG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhWlukvCFEY

I actually thought he over-watched episide 2 of Black Mirror.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlEWhRMUs_8

Judging by Owen’s comments since, it seems he is likely to concentrate on his music from now on.

Which is a good thing, IMO.

HenryBG said :

6matt9 said :

New Yeah said :

McFadden – “he could have won the show”

Fo sho, a blues slide guitarist is going to win Australia’s Got Talent. *cue valley girl accent* “As if”.

Good on Owen for saying what everyone with any semblance of musical integrity thinks. Not sure what the nannas in the audience thought.

I don’t agree with your last comment. Why bother going on the show in the first place if your plan is to be rude to the judges? I’m a musician…played in local bands since I was 15…I believe I have musical integrity but I certainly wouldn’t have behaved like that. Defeats the purpose doesn’t it?

Well, I *do* agree with that comment – the judges are allowed to be total cocks, and the entrants on these talentless quests are expected to kow-tow to them? #@%$ ’em.
Good on Owen.
“My aim isn’t to be in a boy band, chief”.
10/10.

These sorts of TV shows are complete rubbish, why would somebody like Owen be on it in the first place, that’s the mystery?

Most reality TV is rubbish but that’s hardly the point. He chose to go on there as a serious musician. I doubt the judges expect anything other than respect. Wouldn’t you be the same? Don’t you respond better if someone is respectful? I watched the episode tonight out of curiosity and there were a lot of talented people on it. Not only that, it looks like Owen is getting another shot at it next week. He clearly doesn’t think it’s rubbish.

ugh this reminds me why i don’t watch sunrise anymore. so, the show shouldn’t be called ‘australia’s got talent’ but ‘australia’s got people who suck up real good to judges’?

Dilandach said :

Speaking about oneself in the third person a symptom of something?

Steveski74 is not Owen. I know this because I know who steveski74 actually is!

Like a white Kanye, but atleast he waited until he was a bigshot before he burnt bridges.

johnboy said :

Thanks to Owen for providing comment.

Didn’t see that before I posted…He answered my question!

My guess is the whole Sunrise thing is an effort to whip up some interest and ratings for AGT, as it’s apparently being spanked by that other talnet show on another network….
Owen was probably just in the wrong place at the wrong time, so the incident got amplified and used as fodder for viewers. I reckon it will be dragged out till the end of the episode to keep people watching.
Anyway, while I don’t enjoy Kyle, kudos to him for voting for Owen, since he was using the same arrogance style that has got Kyle so far in the industry! If he had of bagged him heaps for acting like that he would have been a hypocrite!

Well from watching that it would appear the judges were slighted by him not pandering to their egos…

Three professional entertainers (note – not musicians) with over inflated sense of importance.

Owen works harder on his music in a day than they have over the last five years of their careers.

and what a zinger – my aim is not to be in a boy band.

And lets face it – the shows producers want Owen back forever.

So proud right now.

GO OWEN!

Only the very famous can “get away” with being rude and aggressive to other people and still get opportunities thrown their way. That display of anger is not normal and shouldn’t be applauded regardless of who it was aimed at.

6matt9 said :

New Yeah said :

McFadden – “he could have won the show”

Fo sho, a blues slide guitarist is going to win Australia’s Got Talent. *cue valley girl accent* “As if”.

Good on Owen for saying what everyone with any semblance of musical integrity thinks. Not sure what the nannas in the audience thought.

I don’t agree with your last comment. Why bother going on the show in the first place if your plan is to be rude to the judges? I’m a musician…played in local bands since I was 15…I believe I have musical integrity but I certainly wouldn’t have behaved like that. Defeats the purpose doesn’t it?

Well, I *do* agree with that comment – the judges are allowed to be total cocks, and the entrants on these talentless quests are expected to kow-tow to them? #@%$ ’em.
Good on Owen.
“My aim isn’t to be in a boy band, chief”.
10/10.

These sorts of TV shows are complete rubbish, why would somebody like Owen be on it in the first place, that’s the mystery?

Speaking about oneself in the third person a symptom of something?

Just watched the Flash video above. Not sure what he did wrong.

Every time I watch commercial TV, it’s worse than I remember. Maybe Australian commercial TV is worse: I sat through the Craig Ferguson/Guy Pearce thing, but could not complete this morning show discussion.

Haven’t heard of Owen Campbell before this.

New Yeah said :

McFadden – “he could have won the show”

Fo sho, a blues slide guitarist is going to win Australia’s Got Talent. *cue valley girl accent* “As if”.

Good on Owen for saying what everyone with any semblance of musical integrity thinks. Not sure what the nannas in the audience thought.

I don’t agree with your last comment. Why bother going on the show in the first place if your plan is to be rude to the judges? I’m a musician…played in local bands since I was 15…I believe I have musical integrity but I certainly wouldn’t have behaved like that. Defeats the purpose doesn’t it?

I wish my arrogance was just a symptom of something…

He’s actually a very nice guy and I think what happened is a misunderstanding by the judges which was blown out of proportion. Owen’s a nice bloke who likes to engage his audience, whether he’s busking or whatever. He clearly enters with an attitude towards Kyle but didn’t really take it very far. His comment in my mind about the judges not being there wasn’t a slur at them, but more his way of making a connection directly with the audience. He wasn’t phased by them as judges and felt nervous about the fact he was being judged, so was getting into more of a performance mode. The problem is the judges got all sensitive and took it for what it WASN’T and made a fuss about it.

He did get his back up and make some confrontational comments but it’s not at all representative of who he really is. Mel on Sunrise made the comment along the lines at “destroy his shot at success” but it’s all just media hype around it. At the end of last night’s episode I thought it all stemmed around Kyle having a bash, but on the Sunrise article it was mostly about Brian. The editing changes the whole event so you can’t take it all too seriously.

I guess we’ll find out for sure in a couple of hours but if you read Owen’s Facebook comments from Sunday and today, it seems he’s on the show on Monday as well, so again…all we’ve seen is the media making the most of an incident and spoon feeding us bits at a time to fuel conversation without really telling us the what actually happened.

I often stop and listen to him when he’s busking in Civic. Very talented indeed. Regardless of what you think of those judges he could have given them a bit more respect. It’s not hard. He certainly shot himself in the foot as far as that show is concerned but I think it’s fair to say he will gain exposure beyond that. Who knows where it could have taken him though…I wonder if a part of him regrets being so arrogant?

McFadden – “he could have won the show”

Fo sho, a blues slide guitarist is going to win Australia’s Got Talent. *cue valley girl accent* “As if”.

Good on Owen for saying what everyone with any semblance of musical integrity thinks. Not sure what the nannas in the audience thought.

It’s commercial TV. Entrant beware.

Lookout Smithers said :

Interesting that mcfadden came to say how great he was the day after. More to come I would say.

Yep, that’s what I thought too.

I think Owen got off light. He was definitely being a tool.

They’re talking about having a good attitude and Kyle Sandilands is on the judging panel.

I’m obviously missing something.

Interesting that mcfadden came to say how great he was the day after. More to come I would say.