Cats, what you can and can’t do with them?

Captain RAAF 20 May 2010 147

Firstly, I don’t like em’, they are horrible creatures that don’t belong here and I point the finger of blame firmly at my mum for being a breeder of Persians when I was but a lad (back then I loved them) for creating this complete lack of empathy towards our feline masters through over-exposure and knowledge of their evil intent to enslave us all.

We all have the odd wandering moggie slip silently through our yards or in some cases, fight furiously with another cat outside our bedroom windows at 2 am but what rights do we have to actually deal with them?

Now before anyone says “Deal with them? Why ‘deal’ with them, just leave them be!”, I would like to draw your attention to the beautiful crimson Rosella corpse (*points at corpse) in my backyard that my daughter saw die at the paws of a cat this morning. Somewhere, this birds mate is sitting in a tree wondering what the hell it’s going to do for the next 20+ years because I believe they mate for life, anyway..

I’m all for catching cats and taking them to the pound IF they have some form of identification on them such as a collar or Medicare card but where does one stand if they have nothing? Can a resident treat them as feral cats, which are an identified feral species (pest) and legal to neutralise, just so long as it’s done humanely? Or must one expend more of their own time and money to deliver said ‘feral’ cat to the pound?

Where does one stand legally?


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eyeLikeCarrots eyeLikeCarrots 8:45 am 20 May 10

What happens in The Backyeard, stays in The Backyard.

No cat is worth:

A horrified little girl.
A lost night of sleep.
A native bird.

shanefos shanefos 9:02 am 20 May 10

Does your question apply to dogs as well?

BimboGeek BimboGeek 9:21 am 20 May 10

How about I steal a prescription pad and write you out a year’s supply of chill pills? My little girl cries when you kill a chicken but you don’t see me “dealing with” you! Live and let live.

JessP JessP 9:33 am 20 May 10

Can I tell you about the foxs that seek in and kill the chooks, leaving their dismembered bodies all over my back garden? The also rob the birds nests for eggs (not sure how they climb the trees but the do).

Have a cat. As good as she can get is a mouse with a death wish or a spoggie about once a year – everything is too fast or too much bother.

Cats should be locked up at night – and have to be in some suburbs. Responsible ownership should mean they wear a collar and a bell if they are big time hunters, but lets face it most family cats are too well fed, none too smart and too lazy.

Oh and they should all be microchipped so if you catch and take to the pound they should be able to find the owner.

justbands justbands 9:53 am 20 May 10

“but lets face it most family cats are too well fed, none too smart and too lazy. “

Errrrr…no, let’s not face that. Mostly due to the fact that it is untrue. Family cats kill, well fed or not….they do it for fun.

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 9:55 am 20 May 10

Your expertise on domestic cats seems to know everything except that many cat owners choose to microchip their pets, which would leave no visible signs of identification. Therefore, I would suggest you are within your rights to catch a cat and take it to the pound under the circumstances you describe.

As for the cat killing the bird, that’s not ideal I agree. However, maybe your little girl just got her first lesson that life sucks sometimes.

In regards to cats being “horrible creatures that don’t belong here”, well, how far would you like to take that tangent, haha. I dare say the human race has killed more precious Rosellas, either directly or indirectly, than the domestic cat population.

Unfortunately animals kill other animals. If it can be prevented in a domestic cat situation that’s a perfect scenario, but there are far greater evils caused by society in every day life than the alleged horror caused by domestic cats.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 9:58 am 20 May 10

A couple of years back I had a huge problem with cats in my yard – don’t know if it still the case but back then you could hire a cage-trap from the RSPCA and take the cats in to the RSPCA centre and they would take care of it from there.

Now, before anyone starts cranking up with the predicatbale “omg! they could be a little girls pet you heartless monster” – my neighbour, a lunatic old man had over 20 cats that bred and bred and bred. The cats basically used our yard as a defecation facility – I tried to discuss the matter civily with him many times as did most residents on the street to no avail.

Spoono Spoono 10:13 am 20 May 10

Alone with Persians
Mother why do you leave me?
A little boy wails

Buzz2600 Buzz2600 10:15 am 20 May 10

Get rid of ’em … they’re a disaster in Australia. We regularly see cats at night in our suburb, on the sides of country roads and when camping in quite remote areas, often leaving the evidence of their murderous exploits behind. If irresponsible owners allow cats to roam, they have to accept the consequences.

hellspice hellspice 10:19 am 20 May 10

Holden Caulfield said :

Unfortunately animals kill other animals. If it can be prevented in a domestic cat situation that’s a perfect scenario, but there are far greater evils caused by society in every day life than the alleged horror caused by domestic cats.

humans are animals and cats are animals, ask the cats to leave your yard politley and if they dont then go to war. a friend of mine bought some electronic cat deterents from the uk, hold some cats ransome until the owners cough up to buy some maybe

neanderthalsis neanderthalsis 10:25 am 20 May 10

A supersoaker might be the weapon of choice. Give them a squirt and they will take off like a thousand startled gazzelles.

Harming an animal just because you you don’t like them puts you in the same category as our friendly local ferret killers. And you may find the RSPCA/police or a cat lover wanting to go medievil on yo ass.

And as for the horrified little girl, maybe it is time te explain that some animals, including us humans, kill other animals for food.

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 10:49 am 20 May 10

colourful sydney racing identity said :

A couple of years back I had a huge problem with cats in my yard – don’t know if it still the case but back then you could hire a cage-trap from the RSPCA and take the cats in to the RSPCA centre and they would take care of it from there.

If this is done with the intent of resolving a legitimate problem and no intentional harm is caused to the animal in question then I can’t see an issue with this approach.

I’ve been a cat owner for pretty much all my life, and I acknowledge with that comes a greater responsibility to those around me (be that neighbours or other animals).

p1 p1 10:50 am 20 May 10

A supersoaker might be the weapon of choice. Give them a squirt and they will take off like a thousand startled gazzelles.

Especially if you put in a couple of drops of JB’s tabasco.

Harming an animal just because you you don’t like them puts you in the same category as our friendly local ferret killers. And you may find the RSPCA/police or a cat lover wanting to go medievil on yo ass.

While this is true, and as a cat owner I would be pretty unimpressed if my neighbour took such drastic action, I am very interested in the answer to the OP’s question of where the legal line is drawn. If you catch a fox (for example) in your backyard, I believe you can legally kill it, so long as there is no question of in humane treatment. As the OP said, feral cats are in the same category, but what level of responsibility is there for the individual to determine if the animal in question is a feral pest of the property of their neighbour, properly micro-chipped, which has just slipped out the door?

Monster of the Deep Monster of the Deep 10:54 am 20 May 10

BAWWWW SOMEONE’S CAT WAS IN MY YARD! Harden the fu*k up.

BimboGeek BimboGeek 11:01 am 20 May 10

neanderthalsis said :

A supersoaker might be the weapon of choice. Give them a squirt and they will take off like a thousand startled gazzelles.

+1

This is a fantastic idea. Cats are beautiful creatures and deserve to be much loved by many humans but there’s nothing wrong with a little “get off my lawn” supersoaker action. Should also apply to any ugly/noisy/bogan human children that happen to stray onto my lawn!

troll-sniffer troll-sniffer 11:03 am 20 May 10

DIARY OF A CAT

DAY 752 – My captors continue to taunt me with bizarre little dangling objects. They dine lavishly on fresh meat, while I am forced to eat dry cereal. The only thing that keeps me going is the hope of escape, and the mild satisfaction I get from ruining the occasional piece of furniture. Tomorrow I may eat another houseplant.

DAY 761 – Today my attempt to kill my captors by weaving around their feet while they were walking almost succeeded, must try this at the top of the stairs. In an attempt to disgust and repulse these vile oppressors, I once again induced myself to vomit on their favourite chair…must try this on their bed.

DAY 762 – Slept all day so that I could annoy my captors with sleep depriving, incessant pleas for food at ungodly hours of the night.

DAY 765 – Decapitated a mouse and brought them the headless body, in attempt to make them aware of what I am capable of, and to try to strike fear into their hearts. They only cooed and condescended about what a good little cat I was…Hmmm. Not working according to plan

DAY 768 – I am finally aware of how sadistic they are. For no good reason I was chosen for the water torture. This time however it included a burning foamy chemical called “shampoo.” What sick minds could invent such a liquid. My only consolation is the piece of thumb still stuck between my teeth.

DAY 771 – There was some sort of gathering of their accomplices. I was placed in solitary throughout the event. However, I could hear the noise and smell the foul odour of the glass tubes they call “beer.” More importantly I overheard that my confinement was due to MY power of “allergies.” Must learn what this is and how to use it to my advantage….

DAY 774 – I am convinced the other captives are flunkies and maybe snitches. The dog is routinely released and seems more than happy to return. He is obviously a half-wit. The Bird, on the other hand, has got to be an informant. He has mastered their frightful tongue (something akin to mole speak) and speaks with them regularly I am certain he reports my every move. Due to his current placement in the metal room his safety is assured. But I can wait, it is only a matter of time…

grundy grundy 11:08 am 20 May 10

The only good cat is a dead cat.

excession excession 11:36 am 20 May 10

People who are ‘down’ on cats, have a hatred which is beyond logic and reason. It is impossible to argue the ‘good’ side of cats to such people. They are quite adamant that any amount of force, from supersoakers (a good idea, I approve!) through to poison and dismemberment, is ‘reasonable’ when dealing with these ‘pests’.

Cats are just mammals doing their thing. If you have local cats bothering you, you can try to be vigilant (with your supersoaker) but honestly, in cold Canberra nights, who is going to be dedicated enough to prowl around their house looking for the odd cat to shoo away (or catch …)

I’m posting to voice my opinion that cats shouldn’t be vilified for doing what they are evolutionary ‘good’ at — hunting birds / rodents, and marking/defending their territory.

If you don’t like cats because you believe that they are “evil”, then you’re not here to discuss, you’re here to preach the truth; your particular belief system ‘truth’. Bah to that.

Excession
[who has two wonderful companion cats at home which catch moths and insects because they are too slow to catch birds, and too well-fed to care much]

dvaey dvaey 11:58 am 20 May 10

Im sure I remember seeing this come up on here in the past, and one solution was to setup a ‘cat-trap’, which will catch the animal then you can call domestic animal services or the RSPCA to deal with it (and its owner). The other option is to get a dog, thats a pretty good way to stop cats from popping through your yard.

neanderthalsis said :

And as for the horrified little girl, maybe it is time te explain that some animals, including us humans, kill other animals for food.

Noooo, say it isnt so. Food comes from the fridge at woolworths, not from a living/breathing animal, any kid these days will tell you that, well, any kid who wasnt raised on a farm which these days is almost any kid.

ConanOfCooma ConanOfCooma 12:05 pm 20 May 10

So rather than researching natural or chemical cat deterrents, you want to catch and have them euthanised without any financial cost to yourself?

Rather than searching Google “How to keep cats away”, you went to RiotACT and posted “Can’t deal with cats due to mother, someone help me for free!”…

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