17 January 2013

Charny man charged over Florey Ford massacre

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A 27-year-old Charnwood man has been charged with Negligent Driving Occasioning Grievous Bodily Harm following a collision that occurred in Florey last night (Wednesday, January 16).

Around 10.05pm, a silver Ford Fairlane collided with a silver Ford Falcon at the intersection of Southern Cross Drive and Kingsford Smith Drive.

A 22-year-old Charnwood woman who was a passenger in the silver Ford Fairlane suffered serious injuries. The driver of the vehicle was unharmed.

The 71-year-old male driver of the silver Ford Falcon received minor injuries from the collision.

ACT Policing’s Collision Investigation and Reconstruction Team are currently investigating the incident.

Any witnesses to the collision who have not yet spoken to police are urged to contact ACT Policing Operations on 131-444. Alternatively, they can call Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000, or via www.act.crimestoppers.com.au.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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schmeah said :

Canberra Times is reporting the woman was/is pregnant and that he condition is critical. Another dead-head driving like a maniac, too invincible to give a toss about his passenger, her baby and another road user.

@Genie – Comment 9. I can assure you these words did not come out of my mouth. Thanks.

Eleven said :

Genie said :

Eleven said :

The report does say he was charged with negligent driving though .. these things don’t just fall from the sky. No one sets off in their car to cause an accident and kill others, but their interpretation of safe driving is sometimes pretty loose.

Well I can tell you now, if he has been charged, he’s not aware of it. The Canberra Times printed this and then issued a correction. My point is that this accident was not caused by ‘another dead head driving like a maniac, too invincible to care about his passenger and ‘her’ baby’, like you say.

Clearly you know the people involved… So please explain to us how the accident happened..? Did they run a red light ? Fail to give way ? Driving on the wrong side of the road ?

Perhaps you can elaborate for us ?

If this poor woman lost her unborn child, the person at fault will be charged with neg driving.. So I’m pretty sure most of these facts are wrong.

Most of what facts are wrong? I don’t really feel the need or think it’s appropriate to elaborate on the circumstances of the accident in this type of forum. I haven’t said the driver was not at fault and I haven’t said he won’t be charged. I think it’s unfair to assume the driver was driving like a maniac and didn’t give a toss about his partner and their unborn child (not to mention suggesting drugs were involved) when you clearly don’t know what happened.

My comment should have read “so I’m pretty sure most of these facts AREN’T wrong.

The phrase of “dead head driving like a maniac, too invincible to care about his passenger…. Etc etc ” have come out of YOUR mouth, not any of the rest of us commenting on this thread. As for the drugs reference – someone asked if there was any truth to the rumour going around. Not accusing them of being on drugs.

All we have asked is how the accident happened, as you clearly know the answer to that question. And paraphrasing “we clearly don’t know what happened”

In my opinion – If my half deaf mother who lives half a KM away from the intersection could here the crash over the TV (which is always way too loud) then speed was def a factor or someone failed to give way.

Genie said :

Eleven said :

The report does say he was charged with negligent driving though .. these things don’t just fall from the sky. No one sets off in their car to cause an accident and kill others, but their interpretation of safe driving is sometimes pretty loose.

Well I can tell you now, if he has been charged, he’s not aware of it. The Canberra Times printed this and then issued a correction. My point is that this accident was not caused by ‘another dead head driving like a maniac, too invincible to care about his passenger and ‘her’ baby’, like you say.

Clearly you know the people involved… So please explain to us how the accident happened..? Did they run a red light ? Fail to give way ? Driving on the wrong side of the road ?

Perhaps you can elaborate for us ?

If this poor woman lost her unborn child, the person at fault will be charged with neg driving.. So I’m pretty sure most of these facts are wrong.

Most of what facts are wrong? I don’t really feel the need or think it’s appropriate to elaborate on the circumstances of the accident in this type of forum. I haven’t said the driver was not at fault and I haven’t said he won’t be charged. I think it’s unfair to assume the driver was driving like a maniac and didn’t give a toss about his partner and their unborn child (not to mention suggesting drugs were involved) when you clearly don’t know what happened.

Eleven said :

The report does say he was charged with negligent driving though .. these things don’t just fall from the sky. No one sets off in their car to cause an accident and kill others, but their interpretation of safe driving is sometimes pretty loose.

Well I can tell you now, if he has been charged, he’s not aware of it. The Canberra Times printed this and then issued a correction. My point is that this accident was not caused by ‘another dead head driving like a maniac, too invincible to care about his passenger and ‘her’ baby’, like you say.

Clearly you know the people involved… So please explain to us how the accident happened..? Did they run a red light ? Fail to give way ? Driving on the wrong side of the road ?

Perhaps you can elaborate for us ?

If this poor woman lost her unborn child, the person at fault will be charged with neg driving.. So I’m pretty sure most of these facts are wrong.

The report does say he was charged with negligent driving though .. these things don’t just fall from the sky. No one sets off in their car to cause an accident and kill others, but their interpretation of safe driving is sometimes pretty loose.

Well I can tell you now, if he has been charged, he’s not aware of it. The Canberra Times printed this and then issued a correction. My point is that this accident was not caused by ‘another dead head driving like a maniac, too invincible to care about his passenger and ‘her’ baby’, like you say.

Eleven said :

Absolutely no truth to the rumour that the driver tested positive to drugs. This accident was definitely not a result of ‘hoon’ driving – the driver had his (almost 9 months) pregnant partner and young daughter in the car, and is absolutely devastated by the outcome.

The report does say he was charged with negligent driving though .. these things don’t just fall from the sky. No one sets off in their car to cause an accident and kill others, but their interpretation of safe driving is sometimes pretty loose.

Absolutely no truth to the rumour that the driver tested positive to drugs. This accident was definitely not a result of ‘hoon’ driving – the driver had his (almost 9 months) pregnant partner and young daughter in the car, and is absolutely devastated by the outcome.

Jim Jones said :

searcher3489 said :

maybe next time you should clarify your headline byincluding that you are in fact mourning the useless Ford Falcons…and Sammy there has been no suggestion or any indication that the pregnant woman has lost her baby and you shouldnt preclude the investigation. you guys need to shape up seriously especially if im gonna pay $15 a month for this

I’ll give you $15 to shut up. How does that sound?

I’ll also contribute to the shutting up fund. What a dip-shit.

Spiral said :

tinkers84 said :

I know the people involved. The unborn baby didn’t survive, she was 8 month pregnant.

Any truth to the rumour that her partner(?), the driver apparently responsible for the accident tested positive to drugs after the accident?

That I don’t know.

tinkers84 said :

Monomyth said :

Sammy – ‘possibly abdominal injuries’ is not the same as ‘death of a foetus.’ So #1 is still correct, as no one has died.

I know the people involved. The unborn baby didn’t survive, she was 8 month pregnant.

Well that’s a sad turn of events.

The smash could be heard several streets away… I’m assuming the young guy ran a red light or was at speed to cause that much noise.. He’s also lucky the 71 year old didn’t have a heart attack or have any injuries.

tinkers84 said :

I know the people involved. The unborn baby didn’t survive, she was 8 month pregnant.

Any truth to the rumour that her partner(?), the driver apparently responsible for the accident tested positive to drugs after the accident?

Monomyth said :

Sammy – ‘possibly abdominal injuries’ is not the same as ‘death of a foetus.’ So #1 is still correct, as no one has died.

I know the people involved. The unborn baby didn’t survive, she was 8 month pregnant.

Did the Fords die at the scene, or were they euthanased afterwards?

searcher3489 said :

maybe next time you should clarify your headline byincluding that you are in fact mourning the useless Ford Falcons…and Sammy there has been no suggestion or any indication that the pregnant woman has lost her baby and you shouldnt preclude the investigation. you guys need to shape up seriously especially if im gonna pay $15 a month for this

You cannot be serious..u must be either thick or have issues picking up context in a sentence…The Fords died!!

Monomyth said :

Sammy – ‘possibly abdominal injuries’ is not the same as ‘death of a foetus.’ So #1 is still correct, as no one has died.

The 2 Fords did… which is so obviously what is meant by the headline.

Spiral said :

I hear that she is no longer pregnant.

That is a very sad development indeed.

Sammy – ‘possibly abdominal injuries’ is not the same as ‘death of a foetus.’ So #1 is still correct, as no one has died.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd3:55 pm 17 Jan 13

Jim Jones said :

searcher3489 said :

maybe next time you should clarify your headline byincluding that you are in fact mourning the useless Ford Falcons…and Sammy there has been no suggestion or any indication that the pregnant woman has lost her baby and you shouldnt preclude the investigation. you guys need to shape up seriously especially if im gonna pay $15 a month for this

I’ll give you $15 to shut up. How does that sound?

Il chuck in $50

I hear that she is no longer pregnant.

Damn – and here’s me without popcorn. Anyway – carry on.

Canberra Times is reporting the woman was/is pregnant and that he condition is critical. Another dead-head driving like a maniac, too invincible to give a toss about his passenger, her baby and another road user.

thebrownstreak693:18 pm 17 Jan 13

Jim Jones said :

searcher3489 said :

maybe next time you should clarify your headline byincluding that you are in fact mourning the useless Ford Falcons…and Sammy there has been no suggestion or any indication that the pregnant woman has lost her baby and you shouldnt preclude the investigation. you guys need to shape up seriously especially if im gonna pay $15 a month for this

I’ll give you $15 to shut up. How does that sound?

And an extra $5 to jump on one leg and bark like a dog.

searcher3489 said :

maybe next time you should clarify your headline byincluding that you are in fact mourning the useless Ford Falcons…and Sammy there has been no suggestion or any indication that the pregnant woman has lost her baby and you shouldnt preclude the investigation. you guys need to shape up seriously especially if im gonna pay $15 a month for this

I’ll give you $15 to shut up. How does that sound?

searcher34891:58 pm 17 Jan 13

maybe next time you should clarify your headline byincluding that you are in fact mourning the useless Ford Falcons…and Sammy there has been no suggestion or any indication that the pregnant woman has lost her baby and you shouldnt preclude the investigation. you guys need to shape up seriously especially if im gonna pay $15 a month for this

Thank you for feedback

He’s not dead, he’s pining for the fords

searcher3489 said :

no one has died

From the ESA last night, in relation to this incident: “A pregnant female patient was treated for head, lower leg and possible abdominal injuries with paramedics transporting her to The Canberra Hospital in a serious but stable condition.”

The death of an unborn child counts as grievous bodily harm.

I was referring to the fords

searcher348912:22 pm 17 Jan 13

A massacre is an incident where some group is killed by another

1) no one has died

2) grevious bodily harm does not mean killed

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