23 April 2012

Chisholm man pinged going 164 down the Monaro Highway

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A 37-year-old Chisholm man was caught exceeding the speed limit by 64km/h on the Monaro Highway in Symonston, Friday night (April, 20).

Around 7.20pm, Traffic Operations were conducting laser targeting when they observed a Nissan Skyline sedan travelling at high speed. The vehicle was detected to be going 164km/hr in a 100km/hr zone.

The driver was stopped by police and issued with a Traffic Infringement Notice (TIN) for the amount of $1811 and will lose six demerit points.

Officer-in-Charge of Traffic, Sergeant Rod Anderson urges the community to think about the consequences of risky driving behaviour.

“Risky driving behaviour such as speeding—low or high range—can have serious consequences for individuals such as loss of life, permanent injury or disability, loss of income, loss of license and monetary penalties.

“I urge people to consider these factors before speeding, for themselves and others who may also be affected,” Sergeant Anderson said.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

In NSW I think the rule is 45+km/h over the limit or faster than 130km/h is automatic license suspension.

I believe in NSW if you are 30km/h or > (but less than 45km/h) you get a 3 month suspension of your license and 45km/h or > is a 6 month suspenison of license.

p1 said :

Postalgeek said :

KB1971 said :

I will cop a flaming for this but I dont have as much of a problem with this as I do with those dicks in the Audi & whatever else it was that were caught in the 60 zone on Belco Way last month….

….So I’m inclined to disagree with you on that one.

I understand what KB1971 was getting at. While 60 over the limit is certainly speeding (we all know speeding is only one step below nude parachute-less skydiving in riskiness) if you place this on a continuum of risky road behaviour, it’s well down the list after racing audis on Belco way.

Indeed. If you were to pick a straighter, less populated stretch of road with decent visibility, you’d be hard pressed to find it. On a Friday night there would be nobody else around there.

Postalgeek said :

KB1971 said :

I will cop a flaming for this but I dont have as much of a problem with this as I do with those dicks in the Audi & whatever else it was that were caught in the 60 zone on Belco Way last month….

….So I’m inclined to disagree with you on that one.

I understand what KB1971 was getting at. While 60 over the limit is certainly speeding (we all know speeding is only one step below nude parachute-less skydiving in riskiness) if you place this on a continuum of risky road behaviour, it’s well down the list after racing audis on Belco way.

KB1971 said :

I will cop a flaming for this but I dont have as much of a problem with this as I do with those dicks in the Audi & whatever else it was that were caught in the 60 zone on Belco Way last month.

That part of the Monaro Highway is relatively un-populated and the likelyhood of someone innocent like a pedestrian being run over is less.

Not condoning the acition, just saying there is less risk than some of the stuff I see people do in built up areas.

Blind rises, cyclists, concealed driveways, kangaroos causing them to swerve. A cyclist was hit along that stretch only a few months ago. And I see cars to and from the AMC regularly ignore the red lights.

So I’m inclined to disagree with you on that one.

I will cop a flaming for this but I dont have as much of a problem with this as I do with those dicks in the Audi & whatever else it was that were caught in the 60 zone on Belco Way last month.

That part of the Monaro Highway is relatively un-populated and the likelyhood of someone innocent like a pedestrian being run over is less.

Not condoning the acition, just saying there is less risk than some of the stuff I see people do in built up areas.

Woody Mann-Caruso8:50 pm 25 Apr 12

Get a dictionary, look up the words “mistake” and “accident”. They are not the same thing and you’d do well to remember that.

I was quoting you. You said ‘mistake’. You even put quote marks around it. You didn’t use the word ‘accident’, and neither did I.

Somebody definitely has a problem with remembering, but it’s not me. It’s you. It’s one of many, many problems, isn’t it?

164km/h? Must have been stuck in third.

Same offense in NSW is instant revoking of your licence (if a NSW licence, or removal of your right to drive in NSW if you are the holder of an interstate licence), a Field CAN (court attendance notice) and a similar fine. When you then front up in court, you will likely be given a 3 to 6 monh suspension and *another* grand or two fine (depending on the mood of the judge).

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

think about the consequences of risky driving behaviour.

What consequences?

64km/h over the limit? $1811.
Being a legend to your d***head mates and keeping your license so you can do it again? Priceless.

Personally, I think that’s appropriate for the vast majority of drivers.

Because the ‘vast majority of drivers’ do 164 in a 100 zone ‘by mistake’, just once, when the police happen to be looking.

Get a dictionary, look up the words “mistake” and “accident”. They are not the same thing and you’d do well to remember that.

There are far too many foundation-less assumptions in your comment to bother addressing.

urchin said :

people like this get other people killed.

Driving that fast on a public is crazy. Driving at speeds that vary from that of other traffic increases risk factors. I think most of us can agree of these things.

The problem is that there are quite a few people (lots, even), who speed regularly, and never get caught or have an accident. For these people, being constantly told to slow down has been tuned out, as there are no apparent consequences.

How do we fix this? Dunno. It’s not right or legal, but like other things in society arguments can be made that the real risk is still pretty low (lots of people speed every day with no consequences). Others believe speed limits are to be obeyed or death is imminent. I don’t really agree with either end, but sit somewhere in the middle. I think the real answer is probably more complex and has many other factors.

a couple of weeks in jail and loss of license would be an appropriate response for endangering the lives of everyone else who happened to be on the road at that time. irresponsible in the extreme. and at 37 years old he doesn’t even have the stupidity of youth to excuse him. people like this get other people killed.

Woody Mann-Caruso10:36 am 25 Apr 12

think about the consequences of risky driving behaviour.

What consequences?

64km/h over the limit? $1811.
Being a legend to your d***head mates and keeping your license so you can do it again? Priceless.

Personally, I think that’s appropriate for the vast majority of drivers.

Because the ‘vast majority of drivers’ do 164 in a 100 zone ‘by mistake’, just once, when the police happen to be looking.

Mental Health Worker8:09 am 25 Apr 12

This has to be the most intensively speed-camera-ed section of highway in the ACT – one at Hume and one a few km further north at the Hindmarsh Drive flyover. So clearly they work brilliantly if this bloke accelerated up to 164 in between them.

It also makes it an odd (but clearly sensible and profitable) place for police to set up a speed trap.

MHW

Cheap said :

You don’t LOSE demerit points do you? you gain them

Who cares, it both means the same thing. It’s an ongoing argument that is moot.

You don’t LOSE demerit points do you? you gain them

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

In NSW I think the rule is 45+km/h over the limit or faster than 130km/h is automatic license suspension.

Does ACT have anything like that?

Nope. Most states don’t have automatic license suspensions for speeding offenses – I think only NSW and QLD do.

I think automatic suspensions are not really a great idea. Our system allows one “mistake” like this. A second similar incident would see the license suspended. Personally, I think that’s appropriate for the vast majority of drivers. Of course you get your 1 in 10000 or so who behave like this regularly, but harsher penalties aren’t going to deter them as they are usually the type to drive without a licence, or rego, etc (like “top bloke” and Jack Daniels swilling moron, Mully).

VYBerlinaV8_is_back1:25 pm 23 Apr 12

In NSW I think the rule is 45+km/h over the limit or faster than 130km/h is automatic license suspension.

Does ACT have anything like that?

They should have waited til he hit the 80 zone 🙂 Really though how is that kind of behaviour not a loss of license automatically?

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