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CIT bullying under investigation

By johnboy 28 May 2012 35

The Chief Minister’s Directorate has pushed out a media release confirming the ACT Commissioner for Public Administration, Andrew Kefford is investigating 39 cases of misconduct at the Canberra Institute of Technology.

In total, concerns have been expressed about the workplace experiences of 39 individuals:

— the circumstances of 34 individuals are being examined by my Office; and
— five entirely new matters are being pursued by CIT under the supervision of my office.

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loresev 7:03 pm 05 Mar 14

NO EVIDENCE OF BULLYING AT CIT?

Unbelievably, the ACT Governments Minister for Education Joy Burch finally answered Steve Doszpots questions regarding progress of the bullying investigation at CIT and claims that there are NO SUBSTANTIATED cases of bullying! This after 2 plus years of investigations, 10 investigators working under a former police investigator and a huge amount of tax payers money. Are we dismayed? YES. Are we surprised? NO … it smelt like it was going this way with the amount of evasive tactics used by the investigators office and finally their complete refusal to answer any more questions. A political solution has been found that makes a mockery of the whole investigation process. More on my blog http://loreseverasblog.blogspot.com.au/ Cheers, Lorese

loresev 10:45 am 23 Jan 14

The victims of bullying at CIT are still being kept in the dark and fed nothing but bullshit. I no longer have a scrap of confidence in Andrew Kefford’s investigation bringing real justice for the victims. A political solution has been found – one that saves face for higher management at CIT and for ACT Labor. I am saddened by this as I have been a labor (sometimes Green with prefs to Labor) voter all my voting life yet this happened on ACT Labor’s watch and they have not genuinely made moves to fix it. Not all is negative however, we victims may well remain the ‘fall guys’ for the process and I hope that real change will happen in the workplace albeit too late for our careers. See my blog for more details. http://loreseverasblog.blogspot.com.au/ Cheers, Lorese.

loresev 11:22 am 11 Jan 14

Tim33 said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Tim33 said :

I feel for the CIT victims. As a temp I cop bullying too but am trying not to be a victim, to ignore it and soldier on with work as best I can. It is almost impossible to do anything if you are casual or Temp.

This CIT inquiry has sounded like such a frustrating and long process and it will probably come to nothing.

I keep thinking that the only way to deal with workplace Bullies are the same way you did with schoolyard bullies as a kid, stand up to them and punch them in their stupid mouth after school. They are cowards and will never bully you again after that, It works. If only this applied to adult work life, how much better would work be? How much more respectful and harmonious. Imagine punching your stupid colleague bully (usually a supervisor or someone slightly higher in a position of power) in the head and watching them crumple to the ground. One can only dream.

yes, life would be much more respectful and harmonious if we punched people in the face O_o

Yes, my point exactly – bullies would be given what the deserve – wait… you are being sarcastic aren’t you? Apologies I didn’t realize.

Also … here is some advice about sticking up for yourself decently and safely in the workplace … I am a grown up, really I am! http://loreseverasblog.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/start-to-stand-up-for-yourself.html

loresev 11:20 am 11 Jan 14

Tim33 said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Tim33 said :

I feel for the CIT victims. As a temp I cop bullying too but am trying not to be a victim, to ignore it and soldier on with work as best I can. It is almost impossible to do anything if you are casual or Temp.

This CIT inquiry has sounded like such a frustrating and long process and it will probably come to nothing.

I keep thinking that the only way to deal with workplace Bullies are the same way you did with schoolyard bullies as a kid, stand up to them and punch them in their stupid mouth after school. They are cowards and will never bully you again after that, It works. If only this applied to adult work life, how much better would work be? How much more respectful and harmonious. Imagine punching your stupid colleague bully (usually a supervisor or someone slightly higher in a position of power) in the head and watching them crumple to the ground. One can only dream.

yes, life would be much more respectful and harmonious if we punched people in the face O_o

Yes, my point exactly – bullies would be given what the deserve – wait… you are being sarcastic aren’t you? Apologies I didn’t realize.

Just a reminder that I also said this …… “I have found a way to do it though, I do it verbally. I do it politely. I don’t abuse, but I do it straight to the face – It works. ” I was just being a bit immature about the punching in the face stuff … letting of steam is necessary against all the CIT angst.

loresev 11:15 am 11 Jan 14

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Tim33 said :

I feel for the CIT victims. As a temp I cop bullying too but am trying not to be a victim, to ignore it and soldier on with work as best I can. It is almost impossible to do anything if you are casual or Temp.

This CIT inquiry has sounded like such a frustrating and long process and it will probably come to nothing.

I keep thinking that the only way to deal with workplace Bullies are the same way you did with schoolyard bullies as a kid, stand up to them and punch them in their stupid mouth after school. They are cowards and will never bully you again after that, It works. If only this applied to adult work life, how much better would work be? How much more respectful and harmonious. Imagine punching your stupid colleague bully (usually a supervisor or someone slightly higher in a position of power) in the head and watching them crumple to the ground. One can only dream.

yes, life would be much more respectful and harmonious if we punched people in the face O_o

Eeekkk we were joking you know ….

Tim33 8:30 pm 10 Jan 14

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Tim33 said :

I feel for the CIT victims. As a temp I cop bullying too but am trying not to be a victim, to ignore it and soldier on with work as best I can. It is almost impossible to do anything if you are casual or Temp.

This CIT inquiry has sounded like such a frustrating and long process and it will probably come to nothing.

I keep thinking that the only way to deal with workplace Bullies are the same way you did with schoolyard bullies as a kid, stand up to them and punch them in their stupid mouth after school. They are cowards and will never bully you again after that, It works. If only this applied to adult work life, how much better would work be? How much more respectful and harmonious. Imagine punching your stupid colleague bully (usually a supervisor or someone slightly higher in a position of power) in the head and watching them crumple to the ground. One can only dream.

yes, life would be much more respectful and harmonious if we punched people in the face O_o

Yes, my point exactly – bullies would be given what the deserve – wait… you are being sarcastic aren’t you? Apologies I didn’t realize.

Tim33 said :

I feel for the CIT victims. As a temp I cop bullying too but am trying not to be a victim, to ignore it and soldier on with work as best I can. It is almost impossible to do anything if you are casual or Temp.

This CIT inquiry has sounded like such a frustrating and long process and it will probably come to nothing.

I keep thinking that the only way to deal with workplace Bullies are the same way you did with schoolyard bullies as a kid, stand up to them and punch them in their stupid mouth after school. They are cowards and will never bully you again after that, It works. If only this applied to adult work life, how much better would work be? How much more respectful and harmonious. Imagine punching your stupid colleague bully (usually a supervisor or someone slightly higher in a position of power) in the head and watching them crumple to the ground. One can only dream.

yes, life would be much more respectful and harmonious if we punched people in the face O_o

What is this? The Crazy Chester fan club? You’ve changed RiotAct, it’s like I hardly know you any more.

loresev 12:47 pm 10 Jan 14

Tim33 said :

I feel for the CIT victims. As a temp I cop bullying too but am trying not to be a victim, to ignore it and soldier on with work as best I can. It is almost impossible to do anything if you are casual or Temp.

This CIT inquiry has sounded like such a frustrating and long process and it will probably come to nothing.

I keep thinking that the only way to deal with workplace Bullies are the same way you did with schoolyard bullies as a kid, stand up to them and punch them in their stupid mouth after school. They are cowards and will never bully you again after that, It works. If only this applied to adult work life, how much better would work be? How much more respectful and harmonious. Imagine punching your stupid colleague bully (usually a supervisor or someone slightly higher in a position of power) in the head and watching them crumple to the ground. One can only dream.

Tim33 I have to agree with you that I’d love to be able to punch certain people in the head. I have found a way to do it though, I do it verbally. I do it politely. I don’t abuse, but I do it straight to the face – It works. More people need to know how to effectively stand up for themselves because you are quite right, in the end, only you can protect you.

loresev 12:42 pm 10 Jan 14

housebound said :

loresev: you’ve done well to keep going. Well done. It’s a pity that people have to fight so hard for public service managers to be held to account in this town.

thanks housebound – I lurch from hope to despair! Today there is more despair as we hear of more ‘friends of friends’ in high places muddying the waters of possible justice. Even if individual victims get no help and restitution – I have hope that at least bullies will think twice and realise they are running out of rocks to hide under. Cheers. L

housebound 9:56 am 10 Jan 14

loresev: you’ve done well to keep going. Well done. It’s a pity that people have to fight so hard for public service managers to be held to account in this town.

loresev 9:07 pm 09 Jan 14

Affirmative Action Man said :

After 30 years in the Public Service (including about 10 years of dealing with CIT) I reckon about 50% of bullying claims are genuine & 50% are lodged by bludgers who will not work or refuse take direction from Managers.

BTW Casual employment is here to stay because its almost impossible to sack inefficient employees in the public sector so if you don’t like being a casual find a new career.

Don’t know if it would be 50% who are not bullied but even if it is, that’s not to say genuine cases shouldn’t be dealt with. I know of a suicide for example. If we take 50% that is still around 36 genuine cases at CIT and these are only the ones who have come forward.

Yep, you are probably right about casual work – it is here to stay but the rights of casuals just need protecting. CIT really did treat me and other casuals like SHIT. Just to remind people that ‘casuals’ at CIT – on so-called ‘casual contracts’ could be there indefinitely … someone I know for 9 another for 12! Teachers on these are expected to act like any other teacher – they write courses, teach courses, mark their students work, go to all staff meetings, but when they upset someone they are OUT. The argument is that if CIT can find casual work … or working ‘full time’ on rolling semester ‘casual contracts’ for upwards of 12 years for someone, they can find a permanent job for that person.

Tim33 9:05 pm 09 Jan 14

I feel for the CIT victims. As a temp I cop bullying too but am trying not to be a victim, to ignore it and soldier on with work as best I can. It is almost impossible to do anything if you are casual or Temp.

This CIT inquiry has sounded like such a frustrating and long process and it will probably come to nothing.

I keep thinking that the only way to deal with workplace Bullies are the same way you did with schoolyard bullies as a kid, stand up to them and punch them in their stupid mouth after school. They are cowards and will never bully you again after that, It works. If only this applied to adult work life, how much better would work be? How much more respectful and harmonious. Imagine punching your stupid colleague bully (usually a supervisor or someone slightly higher in a position of power) in the head and watching them crumple to the ground. One can only dream.

Affirmative Action Man 5:37 pm 09 Jan 14

After 30 years in the Public Service (including about 10 years of dealing with CIT) I reckon about 50% of bullying claims are genuine & 50% are lodged by bludgers who will not work or refuse take direction from Managers.

BTW Casual employment is here to stay because its almost impossible to sack inefficient employees in the public sector so if you don’t like being a casual find a new career.

loresev said :

snip

Hooray!

She’s back!

It’s your birthday, it’s your birthday…etc ad nauseum.

loresev 3:36 pm 09 Jan 14

Its been a while since I visited and Riotact folks tend to visit my blog http://loreseverasblog.blogspot.com.au/ when I visit here so thought I’d briefly update you all on what’s happening at CIT. Well, not much as it turns out. The investigations are not over despite Andrew Kefford, Commissioner for Public Administration, sending out a ‘final report’. Even the report says the investigations are not over. There are mixed blessings. CIT claims they have instituted ‘state of the art’ anti bullying policies and procedures but the public and especially the victims have seen absolutely no evidence of this despite us asking – remembering that the CEO Kefford and others said over and over that the process would be both public and transparent. The good news ends here, if you believe the news. I sincerely hope that anyone at CIT will think twice about talking to someone else like a mangy dog … as the bullies did. I will be more than happy if CIT overhauls its Performance Management systems to allow the ‘underdog’ to report on how they have been managed – remembering that most or all people bullied were bullied by people just ahead of then – their managers. Oh, other good news is that managers MUST have some training in management! And about time. Still at issue at CIT are dodgy employment practices that ALLOWED unqualified people especially education managers, to be in charge of others. This is no secret – search Senate Estimates Committee ACT to see where Steve Doszpot has asked these same questions.

The BAD news, is that so far NO BULLY at CIT has been outed or disciplined or sacked or any such thing BUT, many victims have received letters stating that CIT does not agree they have been bullied and will take no further action! Both CIT and Kefford’s office are now treating us like pesky mozzies that just won’t go away! We are still keep in the dark and fed nothing but bullshit. My ‘matters’ have not come up and readers of my blog will be the first to know when they do. Based on the people who have received their letters who I KNOW to have been bullied … I will fare no better. We victims are now looking at court proceedings, the new Fairwork legislation, and certain pollies are looking to take the investigation in other directions. See my blog for details oh, and today I have some positive words on my blog about how to stand up for yourself. http://loreseverasblog.blogspot.com.au/

Heavs 9:06 am 31 May 13

Whatever did happen to Chester?

loresev 12:54 am 31 May 13

Mr Evil said :

I think Kefford’s hands are probably full at the moment dealing with a few neighbourhood planning issues in Gawler Cres, so I reckon it’ll be another year before anything comes of all this……

Yes! Unfortunate that his house is so hated. Plus he has gone over to the be head of another gov dept for a month or 6 weeks (Tams I believe) so I am guessing the ACT Gov are not in much of a hurry over CIT.

Lorese

Mr Evil 10:04 am 26 May 13

I think Kefford’s hands are probably full at the moment dealing with a few neighbourhood planning issues in Gawler Cres, so I reckon it’ll be another year before anything comes of all this……

loresev 10:44 pm 25 May 13

bundah said :

There are no shortage of vile,nasty so called humans who have no issue in resorting to bullying what ever their motivation and I believe that this is mainly because they believe they can get away with it. The really frustrating thing is that they’re absolutely right as has been proven time and time again.

Seriously it’s glaringly obvious that the gummint has a limp wristed, blasé approach to reigning in this type of vile behaviour. The buck stops with the Chief Minister and she’s been MIA as far as this ugly behaviour is concerned.

I am afraid you are quite right. They have been getting away with it at CIT for years and some will still get away with it through this process because of lack of evidence. Its hard to explain bullying when the bully makes sure no one else is in ear shot when they do it. Bullies can say things that are true and reasonable but how they say it makes a difference. I believe we will still see some disciplinary action at CIT however. Things have gotten too big for them to whitewash the lot. Some current staff are even slagging their work place off on Face Book for ‘accusing them of bullying then having to back off’. What an unholy mess.

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