11 June 2009

Clea Rose Killer on the Run

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The Canberra times is reporting that one of our finest young reprobates is on the run after absconding from his fathers house whilst on Humanitarian Leave.

From the Times:

    The youth who hit and killed pedestrian Clea Rose in Civic four years ago while driving a stolen car is once again on the run from the law after absconding while on humanitarian bail from prison. The now 18-year-old has been at large for nearly two weeks after a Supreme Court judge released him from the Alexander Maconochie Centre into the care of his father to visit the youth’s grandfather who was said to be seriously ill in Calvary Hospital.

He climbed out of the window of his fathers house and did a runner apparently.

We don’t know his name, we don’t know what he looks like, so us folk of the general public can’t help the police with this one.

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be inhumane not to…

They’ll probably let him out again on the weekend so he can watch the rugby at Bruce Stadium!

He’s back in the pokey, sent back by Higgins.

a friend’s green subaru wagon [ycb 04c] was nicked on wednesday evening, just in case anyone sees it, and it may have been this scrote. i’d charge him with it anyway when he’s caught and let him prove otherwise.

I feel sad for the Rose family.

I also feel sad for the people this little turd is almost certainly terrorising tonight. With no income and no way of supporting himself he has almost certainly stolen stuff from people already. It has been two weeks. Was your car stolen two weeks ago? Was your house broken into in the last two weeks?

Someone is harbouring this criminal. If it isn’t his family/friends/associates throwing money at him, how on earth could he have survived the last two weeks.

sepi said :

It must be so awful for his family if they are not a typical criminal type family.

I don’t actually remember many bleeding hearts wanting to go soft on this kid.

Anyway – there is some slim hope that now he is 18 they will be a bit tougher on him.
Maybe.

What, and send him to AMC ?? He won’t even be sent to bed without dinner !!

It must be so awful for his family if they are not a typical criminal type family.

I don’t actually remember many bleeding hearts wanting to go soft on this kid.

Anyway – there is some slim hope that now he is 18 they will be a bit tougher on him.
Maybe.

Hasn’t this guy had enough chances! Maybe now is the time for him to do some SERIOUS time!

I’ve one better.

Once he’s caught, sterilise and labotomise the little turd.

When he committed the crime of killing Clea Rose three years ago the bleeding hearts screamed ‘rehabilitate’.

Been there, done that and now look what’s happened.

Remorseful? I highly doubt it. He should lose his right to walk amongst the law abiding citizens of this country for the term of his natural life.

I am sick of soft sentencesand the BS ‘justice’ system in Canberra. It’s about time the judiciary woke up to themselves.

one hopes when he’s running from the police this time, he does the world a favour and kills himself instead of another innocent person.

P Taker said :

I think the decision of sentencing should be made by police, they would be both ,angry over seeing the horrible crime scene, and probably pissed off that they have to chase his ass all over again. I am sure they would issue a very suitable sentence for the crime and not be lenient.

Sentencing is rightly kept separate and independent from Police. In saying that, the sentences handed out in alot of cases is disappointing to say the least and clearly not in line with what the community expects.

A problem here is also that this very selfish person has now possibly made it harder for his fellow prisoners and also future prisoners to get leave for a seriously ill relative. Magistrates/Judges may now be less inclined to allow such leave because of selfish behaviour like his.

Die Lefty Scum said :

Three strikes doesn’t work and only fills up prisons with petty offenders serving life sentences. Its popular with renegade politicians who like to win cheap votes with pathetically simplistic “get tough on crime” campaigns.

Are you saying that people need more than three chances to sort their shit out ?? I do get your point to a certain degree, so how about this:

3 strikes for “serious offences” – suitable jail time
3 strikes for “less serious offences” – hefty community service or something to that effect
Everything else – mandatory labotomy

Ok the last one was a bit over the top, but I like the first two …..

I didn’t actually say how this lesson would be presented. There are a number of viedo presentations that were produced in the mid 90’s

Woody Mann-Caruso7:23 pm 11 Jun 09

“STOP! POLICE! Look out, he’s got a gun!”
*BLAM BLAM BLAM*
“Nope, it was just a phone.”
“Never mind, mate. Here, have some counselling.”
“Thanks. Make it a pint.”

Problem solved.

“Surely there is someone on Riot who knows who this guys is or looks like?”

Unfortunately I do. He’s the same age as my son and he played in the same sports team when they were much younger (under 9s – under 14s). He’s always been the same. He was constantly being pulled aside for bad sportsmanship and sidelined for foul play and hurting other children.

I’ve met his siblings and they are very nice, normal (if that’s the right word) people – so I never thought his upbringing was a factor relating to his outrageous behaviour. When our family heard about Clea Rose we felt physically sick (not only because our son is the same age and we know the culprit and we also have a daughter the same age/situation who could easily have been in the same place/same time scenario) but because watching this kid over the years was like watching a train smash in slow motion – he was constantly out of control and heading for nothing but disaster (unfortunately it wasn’t his own) .

He doesn’t deserve special ‘humanitarian’ treatment. He’s obviously used his grandfather’s illness as an excuse to escape and this is just another example of his self-centred, malicious personality.

As far as rehabilitation goes – forget it.

problem is, he would probably take out some innocents as well.

ahappychappy4:36 pm 11 Jun 09

farnarkler said :

Another big round of applause to the cretins at the head of the judiciary system.

A just dessert would be if the escapee stole another car and killed a close relative of the supreme court judge who let him have humanitarian bail.

Please, please let it happen so this judge gets to feel the pain that Clea Rose’s parents feel.

Hmmmmmm, I somehow don’t think that is a just dessert…
Try and remember that Humanitarian bail is just that… Humane. I’d say that 90% of the people who are granted Humanitarian bail would take it as a treasured priviledge, and do so gratefully.

Unfortunately, people like this little shit are the people that ruin these things for everyone.

Maybe a just dessert is he steals another car, wraps it around a pole and takes himself out? It’s not just to the family of this little shit, but boy it’d save the taxpayers and community the trouble.

SheepGroper said :

+ 1.

I thought the point of being jailed was the deprivation of liberty, so if someone special was ill or died you automatically miss out.

Human Rights legislation and soft Courts….

farnarkler said :

Another big round of applause to the cretins at the head of the judiciary system.

A just dessert would be if the escapee stole another car and killed a close relative of the supreme court judge who let him have humanitarian bail.

Please, please let it happen so this judge gets to feel the pain that Clea Rose’s parents feel.

See why this was a thoughtless post?

@Astrojax:
I remember.

the humanitarian leave in itself isn’t the problem. i’m entirely comfortable with the concept that we should treat human beings equally when it comes to major emotional trauma, such as death and serious illness in the immediate family… if it is honoured and a prisoner is allowed to duly mourn and grieve, then that’s o; and one would hope this prisoner would see and appreciate the humanity the community has shown through this gesture.

what the problem is can be defined by the selfish pig-ignorant scrotes that abuse the humanity shown to them with such disdain.

clearly this one has no contrition for what he has done. remember, he’s a country member, so appropriate forced atonement in store for when he is re-celled; let’s hope it is soon (can’t imagine he’s the intellect to stay away for long)

Clown Killer3:14 pm 11 Jun 09

What a stupid thing to say.

Muttsybignuts2:59 pm 11 Jun 09

While I think the judge is a dickhead, I don’t wish his family or anyone else’s dead! I have no problem if this little scab burgles the judges’ home though.

Deadmandrinking2:22 pm 11 Jun 09

TP 3000 said :

I want to know what this guy looks like, so when he is walking through City Interchange, I can show him (first hand) what pain is felt when you are a prick & kill innocent people.

This lesson would also help society.

(Who said learning something wouldn’t help society)

I would be at the forefront of wanting to see you arrested, charged, given a hefty fine and possible community service for that. Go dress up like batman and post pictures on the internet like every other freak who hasn’t grown up.

Another big round of applause to the cretins at the head of the judiciary system.

A just dessert would be if the escapee stole another car and killed a close relative of the supreme court judge who let him have humanitarian bail.

Please, please let it happen so this judge gets to feel the pain that Clea Rose’s parents feel.

I want to know what this guy looks like, so when he is walking through City Interchange, I can show him (first hand) what pain is felt when you are a prick & kill innocent people.

This lesson would also help society.

(Who said learning something wouldn’t help society)

Deadmandrinking1:46 pm 11 Jun 09

It’s sad, but he probably does need to go to jail for a bit.

I’m just pleased he’ll be sent to a humanitarian facility. Hopefully, he’ll be more receptive to rehabilitation in there.

Poor old Clea’s family. The last thing they need to hear is that this tool-beater is walking the streets and in all likelihood stealing cars whilst drunk/high again.

I think the decision of sentencing should be made by police, they would be both ,angry over seeing the horrible crime scene, and probably pissed off that they have to chase his ass all over again. I am sure they would issue a very suitable sentence for the crime and not be lenient.

Surely there is someone on Riot who knows who this guys is or looks like?

Mike Crowther1:20 pm 11 Jun 09

‘The Brad’: Escaping/absconding wins you brownie points and status within the criminal culture. (That’s the one the designers of this prison totally failed to accept exists).
It doesn’t matter if the outside is worse, it’s the approval of the underclass that these people crave, not lollies and conjugal visits.

The message has been well and truly sent to this individual that if you only get a pissy few months for killing a young girl, then nothing else you ever do will register. If we are lucky, he will now be over the border (where at least some on the bench have managed to grow some balls.raising hell). When caught he will be sentenced properly and then transferred back here for more misplaced compassion.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

Never quite got this “go to jail, but we’ll let you out for the special moments in your life” thing. Kinda defeats the purpose of going to jail, which is that you don’t get any special moments. I could understand if you were in on a misdemeanour or not paying a fine, but for killing somebody?

many crims don’t get to say goodbye to loved ones who die whilst they are incarcerated. Sames as the families of the victims that they have killed in cold blood, be it with a knife, gun or motor vehicle. No special treatment for a criminal. Treat them with the same courtesy that they afforded their victims.

+ 1.

I thought the point of being jailed was the deprivation of liberty, so if someone special was ill or died you automatically miss out.

Woody Mann-Caruso1:09 pm 11 Jun 09

Never quite got this “go to jail, but we’ll let you out for the special moments in your life” thing. Kinda defeats the purpose of going to jail, which is that you don’t get any special moments. I could understand if you were in on a misdemeanour or not paying a fine, but for killing somebody?

Don’t drag dogs and two year olds into it Brad. A single celled germ has more brains.

S4anta said :

sepi said :

Why is his name still a secret, considering he is over 18?

If it is because the crime was committed as a child, fine, but release his name for hte crime of absconding from custody.

He could be named for the new set of charges but there could be no reference to the clea rose incident in any news story. That’s the law.

sepi said :

Why is his name still a secret, considering he is over 18?

If it is because the crime was committed as a child, fine, but release his name for hte crime of absconding from custody.

I tihnk it so JB, Jazz et al. cant run the ‘give us this twerp’s scrotum for a free lifetime membership’ on RiotACT.

I suspect this guy is a few beers short of a full keg.
Only a moron would do a runner from a semi-comfortable prison, making it much much worse for himself in the long run. Idiots like this think of the immediate, rather than 5 minutes into the future and consequences of their actions.

About as much brains as a dog, or a 2 year old child.

barking toad12:38 pm 11 Jun 09

If our mate Tezza is responsible as Mike suggests (#10) then it again highlights the ineptness of the judiciary – at least in his case. Unfortunately it is well known in legal circles but they can’t get rid of him.

Human rights leave is another hippie concept foisted on us by the socialist mayor.

Why is his name still a secret, considering he is over 18?

If it is because the crime was committed as a child, fine, but release his name for hte crime of absconding from custody.

Die Lefty Scum12:33 pm 11 Jun 09

I hope my last post answers your question peterh.

Die Lefty Scum12:33 pm 11 Jun 09

Three strikes doesn’t work and only fills up prisons with petty offenders serving life sentences. Its popular with renegade politicians who like to win cheap votes with pathetically simplistic “get tough on crime” campaigns. If we want to blindly follow other countries justice models then the U.S is the last place we should be emulating.

The douchebag who killed Clea Rose is galaxies away from being a petty offender. If only his name & photo could be published so that we could hunt him down to be hanged, drawn & quartered.

FWIW, I’m a big fan of the 3 strikes you’re out policy.

I am against the idea of three strikes and you are out, or any other sort of mandatory sentencing. However, if you get a sentence, then infringe upon it in any way (like escaping, or not turning up to periodic detention, breaking bail conditions, etc) then you should automatically default to doing the total time (plus anything new for extra offences committed) at maximum security.

the guy that did the runner, or the justice, Die lefty Scum?

Die Lefty Scum12:08 pm 11 Jun 09

That guy needs to hurry up and die.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy11:58 am 11 Jun 09

Surely with all these second(?) chances and considerations he must be fully rehabilitated by now.

There comes a time when gaol is no longer about rehabilitation; it is about putting a barrier between chronic offenders and the rest of society. I’d say this guy is getting pretty close to that point.

FWIW, I’m a big fan of the 3 strikes you’re out policy.

Mike Crowther11:26 am 11 Jun 09

This isn’t new. Last year old mate Higgins released a convicted armed robber to visit his dying grandfather. (Only in that instance his junkie girlfriend was the ‘responsible person’entrusted to bring him back.) He did a runner and was picked up across the border after committing further offences and creating more traumatised victims. Higgins was apparently swayed by the argument that as the crim was Aboriginal he needed to carry out his ‘sorry time’ away from those nasty screws. (Turns out the bloke is actually Macedonian but that’s probably beside the point now). Anyway, in NSW crooks in such situations can go under armed escort to funerals, hospitals and compassionate home visits with an escape only once in a blue moon. (and, even rarer, the occasional shooting).

The next Clea Rose that this thing kills will be the responsibility of who? Ah yes, not some over-lactating judge, but the police who will be chasing him. How silly of me.

You don’t need to escape from the jail.. you just get some stupid judge to let you out to visit some sick family member you don’t give a stuff about anyway…. but then again… under ACT law, it is his human right.

Anyone care for a wager on what the poor dear’s defence will be for this one? Perhaps a previously undocumented psychological condition – “Chronic Escapism” has a nice ring to it.

Criminals and remorse go together like oil and water, or chalk and cheese, in this city

neanderthalsis10:42 am 11 Jun 09

If he is now 18 and has committed new crimes, surely the police can release a name and mugshot. Might speed his recapture if the public knows what he looks like.

Lets hope he doesn’t steal a car.

The not-so-artful dodger.

Damn,
I thought this was going to be the first escape story from our new prison.

Well, he’s obviously well rehabilitated then………..

I think he should be given another chance, after all, he’s only had about 30 so far.

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