13 July 2016

Club asks man in fedora to leave

| mjconley
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An acquaintance of my wife’s and I went to dinner on Friday, 6th May, to a local club, located in Tuggeranong district. Wearing a fedora he went to order their meals and was asked to remove his hat. He asked why and also told the security guard that there were people wearing hoodies with their hoods up all around in the eating area. After he questioned the guard another two security personnel joined the first. He was refused service and with his wife left. Oh yeah, he is of African descent.

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HenryBG said :

Is your African friend going to club for the first time in Aussie land.. good learning experience for him, he wont leave next time if he is asked to remove his hat/fedora.

Lucky he didn’t come to Australia 50 years ago as he probably wouldn’t have got past the front door.

JC said :

Genie said :

madelini said :

What’s their policy on codpieces?

Choice of grilled or battered. Best served with chips.

Thought you were a Ten Pound Pom! 😉

I have connections there.

Is your African friend going to club for the first time in Aussie land.. good learning experience for him, he wont leave next time if he is asked to remove his hat/fedora.

Genie said :

madelini said :

What’s their policy on codpieces?

Choice of grilled or battered. Best served with chips.

Thought you were a Ten Pound Pom! 😉

Maya123 said :

Used to be hat on in club, shout the bar.

That’s the rule I remember.

Sound like shouting the bar was never offered as an option to our African friend. Maybe that’s the racist bit.

I have also seen people asked to remove hats at clubs in Tuggeranong. And those people weren’t African.

They also complied without a fuss and were allowed to remain.

Sounds like instead of jumping on the racism wagon you and your mates should simply learn some manners.

Well done to the club in Tuggeranong for enforcing hatiquette, regardless of race or Michael Jackson impersonators. Perhaps standards are slipping in other parts of Canberra.
Having regard to manners and cultural awareness, whatever the rules that apply or don’t apply in one’s country of origin, in Australia and in many other countries, it is rude and a sign of a bad upbringing to keep your hat on when in someone’s home, a restaurant, a club, an office, a cinema etc.
It is not racism to ask a person of African descent to follow the same rules that apply to everyone else. When in Rome….
http://wmbriggs.com/post/2743/

madelini said :

What’s their policy on codpieces?

Choice of grilled or battered. Best served with chips.

Used to be hat on in club, shout the bar.

What’s their policy on codpieces?

First off, maybe don’t look for racist or prejudiced in everything, there is way too much of that in the corporate media these days, trying to keep the hatred going in society to keep people distracted from real issues, such as global corporates that pay no tax.

Most clubs, especially RSL, have no hat policy. How that relates to hoodies I don’t know, you can call and ask them. Just like no thongs, tank tops, shorts etc, all establishments can deny entry as long as they don’t discriminate.

Hats Off! Hat Etiquette for Everyone
http://emilypost.com/advice/hats-off-hat-etiquette-for-everyone/

I wholeheartedly agree that hoodies should be removed when inside. It’s not as if it’s cold or windy in the club.
The only possible pourpose it can serve is to hide your identity from staff / cameras.

Traditionally it was considered bad manners for men to wear a hat inside and they would take it of when entering a building. Strangely it was considered okay for women to wear a hat inside though…although I don’t know if that included large sun hats. Despite that I tend to remove my hat though when entering a building (maybe not a snug winter woolly hat if it’s also cold inside), but others, especially those with brims. I feel weird and rude going inside with a hat, especially brimmed hats, on.

It is bad manners to wear a hat indoors. What does nationality have to do with anything?

Holden Caulfield10:37 am 09 May 16

So was he asked to remove his hat, or was he asked to leave?

Based on your account the man was asked to remove his hat and because he didn’t want to he then chose to leave the club.

Oh yeah, cool story bro.

Goes to club.
Breaches club rule.
Is apprised of said rule and asked to comply.
Declines to comply, starts argument.
Leaves.
RACISM!!!!!!!

Their club, their rules.

Deal with it.

It’s a pretty normal rule in clubs. As a 20-something Caucasian woman I used to wear hats all the time when I went out, and would always be asked to remove it or leave in Clubs. (No matter how much I tried to explain it was part of my outfit!).

I was unaware a Fedora was part of African culture unlike a hijab is part of Islamic culture.
I am sure anyone wearing a hat would have been treated the same way if that is the club dress rule.
As much as I would also find club patrons wearing hoodies with the hood raised objectional I would have complained in the normal way as your friend should have.
Perhaps the club rules should be changed to include a ban on the hood part of hoodies bearing in mind that hoodies are relatively new to Australian culture and the Bogans that wear them.

I have also been asked to remove a baseball cap in a Tuggeranong club. It was explained to me that hoodies up are ok – but not hats on. It was apparently the “rule”. I dunno if it was right or not, but it was easier to remove said baseball cap than have an argument.

Oh yeah…….I’m Caucasian…….

According to hat etiquette it is rude for men to wear hats:

. In someone’s home
. At mealtimes, at the table
. While being introduced, indoors or out (unless it’s frigid!)
. In a house of worship, unless a hat or head covering is required
. Indoors at work, especially in an office (unless required for the job)
. In public buildings such as a school, library, courthouse, or town hall
. In restaurants and coffee shops
. At a movie or any indoor performance
. When the national anthem is played

http://emilypost.com/advice/hats-off-hat-etiquette-for-everyone/

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