1 October 2022

Clubs still not willing to bear brunt of costs of capping poker machine bets, credit limits

| Lottie Twyford
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Canberra’s clubs continue to have an issue with how much it will cost them to introduce a central monitoring system for poker machines. Photo: File.

Canberra’s clubs continue to have issues with the government’s plan to introduce $5 bet and $100 load-up limits, arguing it will cost them too much and there is limited evidence to show it helps reduce harm.

In April, Minister for Gaming Shane Rattenbury revealed the government’s intentions to link up all the poker machines in the Territory with a central monitoring system (CMS).

All other jurisdictions, excluding Western Australia, have a CMS.

That system would allow the introduction of the bets and the load-up limits – harm reduction measures intended to slow down the rate at which a person can gamble.

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At the time, the government anticipated it would not be live until 2024 and would cost between $11 and $18 million.

Mr Rattenbury said it was expected the government and the clubs would both foot some of the bills, with the clubs expected to pay an ongoing fee.

While he anticipated pushback from the clubs, he hoped extensive consultation would help “avoid the traditional barney”.

Despite these efforts, clubs’ hackles were raised by what they perceived as unfair timing given the challenges of the pandemic and called on the government to focus its efforts on other, less-regulated forms of gambling such as online wagering.

They’ve also questioned the cost, estimating it to be somewhere in the vicinity of $70 million – much higher than the government’s proposal.

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After months of consultation, the government’s listening report shows that while clubs and other stakeholders were generally supportive of gambling harm reduction measures, most clubs had, as expected, voiced concerns about the introduction of a CMS and how much it would cost.

“Cost and financial impact was a primary consideration for club sector stakeholders who do not consider the proposal affordable,” the report read.

“[These] included both the initial and ongoing costs of a CMS, devaluation of existing [poker machines] and revenue implications.”

Clubs also raised concerns their existing poker machines and gaming-related assets would become obsolete.

They further expressed fears about the likely ongoing impact on their business caused by consumers jumping the border into NSW to gamble – as had occurred during lockdown – and the possibility of fewer games being available.

Questions about future cashless gaming were also raised.

Shane Rattenbury

Minister for Gaming Shane Rattenbury said the government will continue to consult with the community on its intention to cap bets and credit limits. Photo: Lottie Twyford.

ClubsACT CEO Craig Shannon said the clubs remained committed to working with the government on the next steps but they stood by their position that the costs of the system were too high.

“It’s the costs we are concerned with coupled with a lack of evidence for the harm minimisation benefits of the government’s position,” Mr Shannon said.

“Whatever the price is at the end of the day, the government is going to have to accept this will have an impact on the clubs’ revenue because we will spend money that is currently not being expended.”

Mr Shannon said the clubs will await the proposal’s next, more technical stages for a final figure.


ClubsACT CEO Craig Shannon said he hoped the government was “hearing” and not just “listening” in its report. Photo: Thomas Lucraft.

Last month, the government was forced to delay the introduction of the first tranche of legislation which would have stopped new poker machines from coming online in the Territory unless they had bet limits of $5.

Mr Rattenbury had said these laws would have stopped the problem from getting worse and the clubs from making what they may feel was a “lost investment” and purchasing machines that would then need to be replaced or updated when the full legislation comes into effect.

Mr Shannon told Region the clubs felt the government had tried to be disingenuous with that legislation.

“It’s our view that any timeframe for the introduction of legislation should flow out of the detailed consultation of all the issues by a working group,” he said.

“To have [it] sitting over our heads and being introduced in the absence of this consultation was a flaw in the government’s plan.”

Bet and credit limits were set out in the 2020 Labor-Greens Parliamentary Agreement.

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Hold strong against these bullies Shane Rattenbury!! ACTClubs, this little boys alliance has been described by Andrew Barr as a “wreckage” and a “joke”. Not to mention the humiliation they suffered at the 2016 election as they squandered all those thousands of dollars of members’ contributions in their failed attempt to unseat Labor and the Greens. Don’t worry though, Liberals Shadow Minister for Gaming and Racing Mark Parton has ClubsACT’s back! Mr Parton is a strong supporter of gambling and pokies in the ACT. He is also a strong supporter of their irresponsible behaviour in promoting gambling and poker machines. This Liberal party warrior, who blusters away in the background trying to be relevant. Always the humorist, he claims that Canberrans are more addicted to chocolate than gambling. But soldier on Shane, you have my wholehearted support.

There you go Mr Rattenbury, you have one supporter ?

Judging by last election results Gary Stuart I think he has more than that!

Imagine thinking that the Clubs are the “bullies” in this ideological war against them being run by the government. LOL.

Yes laughs galore Chewy14!. Not so amusing reflecting on the 2016 election results and ClubsACT failed but laughable attempt to unseat Labor and the Greens. All that campaigning by ClubsACT using members’ contributions to fund their campaign. All those old white men thinking they were relevant, arrogantly presuming that they were on a roll in unseating a sitting government. And too stupid and oblivious to the fact that most Canberrans supported the government in its poker reform endeavours.

Yes it is pretty funny to see your partisan rants.

You must have trouble standing up straight with that significantly shorter left leg.

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