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Community Consultation on what to do with clever kids

By Barcham - 26 August 2013 36

Joy Burch announced that the ACT Government will begin community consultation soon on their review of the 2008 ACT’s policy for gifted and talented students.

The review policy is designed to educate schools and families as to the best way to supporting the gifted and talented.

“We want to ensure that it continues to meet the needs of ACT gifted and talented public school students into the future,” Ms Burch said.

“Parent representatives, students, teachers and the Canberra community will be consulted to ensure their views are considered as part of this review to ensure the policy continues to meet the needs of gifted and talented students in our Government schools.”

In ACT public schools the principal is responsible for determining how the needs of the gifted and talented students are met in their school.

“I have received feedback from parent groups seeking to enhance the learning experience and outcomes for all gifted and talented students in the ACT, so I look forward to their contribution.”

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Community Consultation on what to do with clever kids
Robertson 12:41 pm 27 Aug 13

At a teacher’s urging, I enrolled my daughter in a few of these “gifted and talented” things, and then they had a weekend-long camp to which parents were invited.

Well, it turns out that “gifted and talented” is actually a big group of children who have been brought up by incompetent parents without any discipline and who have a wide range of behavioural disorders as a result. Their parents are in denial about their children’s poor behaviour and pretend their little monsters are “gifted”.

Needless to say, my daughter hasn’t been back.

neanderthalsis 10:45 am 27 Aug 13

Dare I suggest that parents with truly gifted children should take their offspring and send them to a school that actually has a decent extended learning program. This would probably mean private education, which unfortunately in the Peoples Socialist Republic of Canberra is seen as an elitist breeding ground for Young Liberals.

housebound 7:18 am 27 Aug 13

Start by implementing a curriculum with some flexibility – so the bored bright kids don’t have to sit around bored waiting (sometimes for days or even weeks) for the class to finally ‘get it’. Better streaming would help too.

It is really hard to motivate a kid to go to school when he/she knows that’ what is waiting for him (or her).

But Joy Burch is running it – so don’t get your hopes up.

poetix 7:38 pm 26 Aug 13

Barcham said :

poetix said :

Barcham said :

The super intelligent should be blended into a nutrient rich brain-paste which we could then feed to the pregnant in order to pre-smarten their children.

That way instead of having a few clever kids now we raise the general IQ of the next generation. If we keep this practice up for several generations eventually even the dumb future kids will be as smart as our super intelligent kids today.

I just saved the future.

Easy for you to make such suggestions…You’re not going to be part of the brain pesto, are you? Being not so young, and not so neurally blessed.

I think you’ll find that due to the tragic brilliance of my idea, I’ll unfortunately be the first into the mind-blender.

I go for the betterment of all.

Or the (peanut) butterment?

miz 7:21 pm 26 Aug 13

The easiest way to extend children is not to be so rigid about age/class levels, and not make them feel like the ‘odd one out’.

Parents tend to notice particular abilities in their children at a young age and are able to seek psych (IQ) tests to confirm, though these tests are admittedly expensive. However, once you have the test result you have ‘evidence’ to show the Ed Dept and can push for appropriate learning. They reckon most class teachers fail to identify most G&T children, so don’t rely on that method to identify your child.

A lot of smart children feel ‘held back’ by the system, which caters for everyone else except them. They are frequently bored. Because they find everything easy for years, they can suddenly hit a wall because they have forgotten ‘how to learn’ and don’t know how to deal with ‘not knowing the answer’. They may also intentionally ‘level out’ to conform and make friends. Eg, deciding to read the crap most of the girls are reading (eg Nancy Drew) instead of reading what they are Really interested in.

Good to see some attention being paid to this area.

Sleaz274 6:58 pm 26 Aug 13

bd84 said :

I would have thought policies to improve the outcomes for dumb kids would be a higher priority…

Unfortunately it is by a massive ratio. If we poured as much effort and extra work into our top 10% as we do our bottom 10% we might actually cultivate the next generation of leaders and thinkers something this country appears rather bereft of late.

As dtc said we have A graders playing F grade and then we wonder why they get bored, cynical and become classic under achievers. My father constantly bemoaned the fact that 90% of his time as a principal went to the trouble making 5% of students and I’m sure most teachers feel the same.

Barcham 6:44 pm 26 Aug 13

poetix said :

Barcham said :

The super intelligent should be blended into a nutrient rich brain-paste which we could then feed to the pregnant in order to pre-smarten their children.

That way instead of having a few clever kids now we raise the general IQ of the next generation. If we keep this practice up for several generations eventually even the dumb future kids will be as smart as our super intelligent kids today.

I just saved the future.

Easy for you to make such suggestions…You’re not going to be part of the brain pesto, are you? Being not so young, and not so neurally blessed.

I think you’ll find that due to the tragic brilliance of my idea, I’ll unfortunately be the first into the mind-blender.

I go for the betterment of all.

Pork Hunt 5:45 pm 26 Aug 13

Their sperm and eggs should be extracted and used for anti bogan research…

bundah 5:37 pm 26 Aug 13

Barcham said :

The super intelligent should be blended into a nutrient rich brain-paste which we could then feed to the pregnant in order to pre-smarten their children.

I just saved the future.

Well at least you’ll be safe from the blender 🙂

fabforty 5:24 pm 26 Aug 13

OK.. are we talking about truly gifted and talented kids here, or simply those whose parents think they are ?

milkman 5:17 pm 26 Aug 13

Barcham said :

The super intelligent should be blended into a nutrient rich brain-paste which we could then feed to the pregnant in order to pre-smarten their children.

That way instead of having a few clever kids now we raise the general IQ of the next generation. If we keep this practice up for several generations eventually even the dumb future kids will be as smart as our super intelligent kids today.

I just saved the future.

Eugenics is a better solution.

dtc 5:13 pm 26 Aug 13

bd84 said :

I would have thought policies to improve the outcomes for dumb kids would be a higher priority…

I think you will find three models in most primary schools

1. all the resources go to the ‘dumb kids’ and the intelligent ones can just deal with being bored
2. claiming they have a gifted and talented program, which means 1 hr per fortnight of extension math
3. a belief that all kids should be taught the same regardless of the fact that kids clearly are not the same (one way or the other).

The problem is that its totally up to the principal, and when they change very few years the school can have a completely different policy to the one you thought you were ‘signing up to’.

I know it sounds wanky and people are always suspicious of ‘gifted’ children, but they do exist. Its like putting a really good, say, cricketer into a grade F side and then wondering why s/he feels bored and isnt improving.

poetix 5:10 pm 26 Aug 13

Barcham said :

The super intelligent should be blended into a nutrient rich brain-paste which we could then feed to the pregnant in order to pre-smarten their children.

That way instead of having a few clever kids now we raise the general IQ of the next generation. If we keep this practice up for several generations eventually even the dumb future kids will be as smart as our super intelligent kids today.

I just saved the future.

Easy for you to make such suggestions…You’re not going to be part of the brain pesto, are you? Being not so young, and not so neurally blessed.

Barcham 4:55 pm 26 Aug 13

The super intelligent should be blended into a nutrient rich brain-paste which we could then feed to the pregnant in order to pre-smarten their children.

That way instead of having a few clever kids now we raise the general IQ of the next generation. If we keep this practice up for several generations eventually even the dumb future kids will be as smart as our super intelligent kids today.

I just saved the future.

bd84 4:48 pm 26 Aug 13

I would have thought policies to improve the outcomes for dumb kids would be a higher priority…

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