Container deposits? we're in favour but not doing anything on our own.

schmeah said :

No, as I said she is head of the food and grocers lobby group in the ACT who are the chief players behind the deposit scheme being shafted .. don’t know how you interpreted my comment as her being CM .. ?

No she is the head of a National body, probably based in the ACT to get easy access to federal politicians. Not sure if she still is, after becoming CEO of BeyondBlue recently. However, the amazing ability of executives to hold down multiple jobs with full salaries may mean she has 2+ jobs.

IP

schmeah said :

.. don’t know how you interpreted my comment as her being CM .. ?

Long memory combined with poor reading comprehension?

schmeah said :

Recycling, complete no brainer.

Why are we even discussing this?

because the likes of Kate Carnell and her mighty position at the food and grocery council keep spreading lies about how a deposit scheme would financially ruin distributors and store owners and possibly result in the end-times. It’s a real shame we don’t have a scheme.

I remember clubbing in Europe 10 years ago now and povos such as myself would go around and pick up abandoned glass bottles to take them back to the bar for a refund (about 80 cents) which we would then put towards more buying more beer. This would be repeated in the wider world outside of course, by the homeless or others looking for spare bus change.

Kate Carnell is still CM?

News to me…

No, as I said she is head of the food and grocers lobby group in the ACT who are the chief players behind the deposit scheme being shafted .. don’t know how you interpreted my comment as her being CM .. ?

Realistically doing anything on this out of step with NSW would be disastrous.

So I’m guessing you didn’t read the block of text you pasted above this statement where it says:
Its fate now depends on all State and Territory Governments supporting a change to the law.?

schmeah said :

Recycling, complete no brainer.

Why are we even discussing this?

because the likes of Kate Carnell and her mighty position at the food and grocery council keep spreading lies about how a deposit scheme would financially ruin distributors and store owners and possibly result in the end-times. It’s a real shame we don’t have a scheme.

I remember clubbing in Europe 10 years ago now and povos such as myself would go around and pick up abandoned glass bottles to take them back to the bar for a refund (about 80 cents) which we would then put towards more buying more beer. This would be repeated in the wider world outside of course, by the homeless or others looking for spare bus change.

Kate Carnell is still CM?

News to me…

Not CM, she’s head of a rent-seeking lobby group.

In Kenya Bars and restraunts cahrged you about $1 for coke in a glass bottle if you were consuming it on the premises. It was $4 if you weren’t because they recycle the bottles. Even the little trailer stalls that were on our campsite had recycling for glassand plastic next to it.

I still think recycling bins should be emtied weekly

Recycling, complete no brainer.

Why are we even discussing this?

because the likes of Kate Carnell and her mighty position at the food and grocery council keep spreading lies about how a deposit scheme would financially ruin distributors and store owners and possibly result in the end-times. It’s a real shame we don’t have a scheme.

I remember clubbing in Europe 10 years ago now and povos such as myself would go around and pick up abandoned glass bottles to take them back to the bar for a refund (about 80 cents) which we would then put towards more buying more beer. This would be repeated in the wider world outside of course, by the homeless or others looking for spare bus change.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

I’m shocked. Irish Pete I 100% agree. Force these companies to take some of the responsibility for what comes out of their factories. On the other side start issuing huge fines to peeps who litter and do not recycle properly. Government also needs to put in place more facilities. The amount of garbage bins to recycle bins in public places is disgusting.

Also anyone who thinks recycling is a waste of time is a grade A POS.

Its just not glass either, have a look at all the packaging in the supermarket. These convenient meals that come in non recyclable foam containers, individually packed tiems that could be sold in more bulk & my favourite, bubble packed items.

Why does a battery have to be packed in something that has both cardboard and plastic?

We have a waste problem, hitting the consumer is not the full answer. We need to get the manufacturers thinking about it too.

Watson said :

Solidarity said :

Only things worth recycling are metals, things like glass and plastic take more energy to recycle then it does to make new ones.

This isn’t just about recycling though. It’s also about reducing litter. Surely shattered beer bottles must be at the top of the list of most common items to be dumped in public places. Probably second, after MacDonald’s wrappers.

#1….Cigarette butts

I’m shocked. Irish Pete I 100% agree. Force these companies to take some of the responsibility for what comes out of their factories. On the other side start issuing huge fines to peeps who litter and do not recycle properly. Government also needs to put in place more facilities. The amount of garbage bins to recycle bins in public places is disgusting.

Also anyone who thinks recycling is a waste of time is a grade A POS.