Cosgrove heading to Yarralumla?

I think Cosgrove is a pretty good bet. If Labor/Greens alliance were in, my top contenders would be 1. Michael Kirby, 2. Deborah Mailman, 3. Anyone from wikileaks

Pork Hunt said :

johnnycash said :

Well if Gen Cosgrove gets the nod he’ll be the first fat bastard GG for ages…

That reminds me of the time someone tried to name their racehorse (gee gee) Sirjohnker but the authoritahs wouldn’t have it…

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/cheeky-name-sees-racehorse-banned/story-e6frf7jo-1111116488272

johnnycash said :

Well if Gen Cosgrove gets the nod he’ll be the first fat bastard GG for ages…

That reminds me of the time someone tried to name their racehorse (gee gee) Sirjohnker but the authoritahs wouldn’t have it…

Well if Gen Cosgrove gets the nod he’ll be the first fat bastard GG for ages…

sepi said :

CraigT said :

IrishPete said :

I haven’t seen Mr Cosgrove’s CV, and Wikipedia is fairly silent on his post-military activities, so perhaps he does fit these criteria.

IP

So you know nothing about Cosgrove, his professionalism, nor his success in East Timor but that won’t stop you having an ignorant opinion about his suitability to replace the current GG who has never done anything except to have the good sense to be born a woman and put herself forward for a consequent reward.

“the current GG who has never done anything except to have the good sense to be born a woman and put herself forward for a consequent reward”

What does this even mean? do all women get a go at being the GG? was a female GG a foregone conclusion in 1950? Because we have had One female GG it is now really unfair and stacked against men?

I thought she got the gig simply because she was a good mate of Rudd’s from Queensland.

CraigT said :

IrishPete said :

I haven’t seen Mr Cosgrove’s CV, and Wikipedia is fairly silent on his post-military activities, so perhaps he does fit these criteria.

IP

So you know nothing about Cosgrove, his professionalism, nor his success in East Timor but that won’t stop you having an ignorant opinion about his suitability to replace the current GG who has never done anything except to have the good sense to be born a woman and put herself forward for a consequent reward.

“the current GG who has never done anything except to have the good sense to be born a woman and put herself forward for a consequent reward”

What does this even mean? do all women get a go at being the GG? was a female GG a foregone conclusion in 1950? Because we have had One female GG it is now really unfair and stacked against men?

Antagonist said :

CraigT said :

… the current GG who has never done anything except to have the good sense to be born a woman and put herself forward for a consequent reward.

She had the good sense to be born a woman? As in she made a *sensible choice* to be born a woman? I guess you are going to tell us people choose to be born gay, lesbian, bi and intersex too ???

If she was able to arrange her own gender pre-birth then she’s bloody near miraculous and I’m surprised we haven’t made her supreme leader for life.

CraigT said :

… the current GG who has never done anything except to have the good sense to be born a woman and put herself forward for a consequent reward.

She had the good sense to be born a woman? As in she made a *sensible choice* to be born a woman? I guess you are going to tell us people choose to be born gay, lesbian, bi and intersex too ???

IrishPete said :

I haven’t seen Mr Cosgrove’s CV, and Wikipedia is fairly silent on his post-military activities, so perhaps he does fit these criteria.

IP

So you know nothing about Cosgrove, his professionalism, nor his success in East Timor but that won’t stop you having an ignorant opinion about his suitability to replace the current GG who has never done anything except to have the good sense to be born a woman and put herself forward for a consequent reward.

2604 said :

CraigT said :

2604 said :

Cosgrove would be OK given that it’s just a ceremonial position. Anyone who’s familiar with the Kafkaesque bureaucracy of the ADF would understand why no career military person should ever be assigned a position which requires actual leadership or organisational skills.
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No idea what you are on about.

Look up “East Timor”.

You mean that operation where the modern and well-equipped Australian army helped to overcome a bunch of rag-tag, impoverished, pro-Jakarta militias, with US and UN support and the agreement (or at least acquiescence) of the Indonesians?

That’s a bit like saying the captain of ManU deserves praise because his team won an exhibition game against the South Tuggeranong U19s.

…without hardly anybody getting shot, without any craven non-action as happened when the UK/US conducted a similar operation in Bosnia, and without any long-lasting damage to international relations.

As a military exercise, it was exceedingly professional and Cosgrove gained enormous credit from it.

CraigT said :

2604 said :

Cosgrove would be OK given that it’s just a ceremonial position. Anyone who’s familiar with the Kafkaesque bureaucracy of the ADF would understand why no career military person should ever be assigned a position which requires actual leadership or organisational skills.
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No idea what you are on about.

Look up “East Timor”.

You mean that operation where the modern and well-equipped Australian army helped to overcome a bunch of rag-tag, impoverished, pro-Jakarta militias, with US and UN support and the agreement (or at least acquiescence) of the Indonesians?

That’s a bit like saying the captain of ManU deserves praise because his team won an exhibition game against the South Tuggeranong U19s.

LSWCHP said :

IrishPete said :

East Timor, or Timor L’Este, a small country to the north of Australia which Australia is screwing for oil and gas revenue, and whose invasion by Indonesia in the 1970s Australia ignored by hiding under the table. What’s the relevance? Oh Australia belatedly found some kahunas and helped East Timor towards independence, well the two-thirds of the population who had survived the occupation. Yep, another proud moment in Australia’s history.

IP

I think the word you’re actually looking for there is cojones. “Kahuna”, as in “Big Kahuna” is a Hawaiian word meaning “boss, expert” etc, whereas “cojones” is Spanish slang meaning “long, wobbly, floppy, dangly, male round bits”.

Unless you actually meant that Australia found some experts who helped Timor towards independence?

Anyway, here endeth the multilingual pedantry for today. 🙂

I checked it with Google before using it, as I wasn’t sure if it should be spelt with a C or K and the urbandictionary.com confirmed the meaning and the K spelling. But it probably is an American corruption of the Spanish cojones. You pendejo for pointing out my failings.

IP

IrishPete said :

East Timor, or Timor L’Este, a small country to the north of Australia which Australia is screwing for oil and gas revenue, and whose invasion by Indonesia in the 1970s Australia ignored by hiding under the table. What’s the relevance? Oh Australia belatedly found some kahunas and helped East Timor towards independence, well the two-thirds of the population who had survived the occupation. Yep, another proud moment in Australia’s history.

IP

I think the word you’re actually looking for there is cojones. “Kahuna”, as in “Big Kahuna” is a Hawaiian word meaning “boss, expert” etc, whereas “cojones” is Spanish slang meaning “long, wobbly, floppy, dangly, male round bits”.

Unless you actually meant that Australia found some experts who helped Timor towards independence?

Anyway, here endeth the multilingual pedantry for today. 🙂

Antagonist said :

Masquara said :

Quentin Bryce is very strong on women’s issues including reproductive rights – does anyone know Peter Cosgrove’s attitude on such?

Irrelevant. The GG’s role is primarily ceremonial as the Queen’s representative, so who gives a flying toss what his position is on women’s issues? If he were an elected politician, then his attitude *might* be relevant. Go and burn your bra somewhere else.

+ another for Billy Birmingham.

I think Bryce’s Boyer lecture was a bit of a game changer there.

Masquara said :

Quentin Bryce is very strong on women’s issues including reproductive rights – does anyone know Peter Cosgrove’s attitude on such?

Irrelevant. The GG’s role is primarily ceremonial as the Queen’s representative, so who gives a flying toss what his position is on women’s issues? If he were an elected politician, then his attitude *might* be relevant. Go and burn your bra somewhere else.

+ another for Billy Birmingham.

Quentin Bryce is very strong on women’s issues including reproductive rights – does anyone know Peter Cosgrove’s attitude on such?

Reading Jack Waterford’s column on this topic in the Canberra Times, I’ve fallen off my horse and had a change of heart. (It wasn’t so much anything Jack said, it just prompted some different direction in my own thinking.)

I have absolutely no objection to a former military officer being Governor General. I’m just not comfortable with someone whose only professional experience is in the military. There are plenty of ex-military who have subsequently gained valuable and relevant experience, or went into the military after such a career.

I haven’t seen Mr Cosgrove’s CV, and Wikipedia is fairly silent on his post-military activities, so perhaps he does fit these criteria.

IP

Blen_Carmichael said :

IrishPete said :

CraigT said :

2604 said :

Cosgrove would be OK given that it’s just a ceremonial position. Anyone who’s familiar with the Kafkaesque bureaucracy of the ADF would understand why no career military person should ever be assigned a position which requires actual leadership or organisational skills.
.

No idea what you are on about.

Look up “East Timor”.

East Timor, or Timor L’Este, a small country to the north of Australia which Australia is screwing for oil and gas revenue, and whose invasion by Indonesia in the 1970s Australia ignored by hiding under the table. What’s the relevance? Oh Australia belatedly found some kahunas and helped East Timor towards independence, well the two-thirds of the population who had survived the occupation. Yep, another proud moment in Australia’s history.

IP

Oh dearie, dearie, here we go again. Having read numerous missives over the years from Irate Pete, I mean Irish Pete, I have – with a heavy heart – come to the conclusion that he doesn’t appear to have anything complimentary to say about Australia. Actually he doesn’t appear to have anything complimentary to say about anyone or anything, apart from his own abilities – whether real or imagined. Must be a bummer of an existence living with a permanent chip on one’s shoulder.

Lots positive to say. Unlike most people I chose and choose to live here and have Australian citizenship, it isn’t an accident of birth.

IP

gazket said :

Billy Birmingham for Governor-General .

And we all thought you were a halfwit… Best nomination ever.

IrishPete said :

CraigT said :

2604 said :

Cosgrove would be OK given that it’s just a ceremonial position. Anyone who’s familiar with the Kafkaesque bureaucracy of the ADF would understand why no career military person should ever be assigned a position which requires actual leadership or organisational skills.
.

No idea what you are on about.

Look up “East Timor”.

East Timor, or Timor L’Este, a small country to the north of Australia which Australia is screwing for oil and gas revenue, and whose invasion by Indonesia in the 1970s Australia ignored by hiding under the table. What’s the relevance? Oh Australia belatedly found some kahunas and helped East Timor towards independence, well the two-thirds of the population who had survived the occupation. Yep, another proud moment in Australia’s history.

IP

Oh dearie, dearie, here we go again. Having read numerous missives over the years from Irate Pete, I mean Irish Pete, I have – with a heavy heart – come to the conclusion that he doesn’t appear to have anything complimentary to say about Australia. Actually he doesn’t appear to have anything complimentary to say about anyone or anything, apart from his own abilities – whether real or imagined. Must be a bummer of an existence living with a permanent chip on one’s shoulder.