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Cotter Dam expanders boned

By johnboy - 6 March 2012 64

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The ABC brings word that ACTEW have told the 100 odd day workers on the Cotter Dam Expansion their services are no longer required. On top of that 120 permanents aren’t getting paid past Thursday:

ACTEW believes it could be three months before the clean up is finished and construction work restarts at the site.

The Cotter Dam expansion project was due to be finished in August, but is now expected to be completed by the end of the year.

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Cotter Dam expanders boned
Smoothoperator 9:45 pm 06 Mar 12

I have been working at ECD now for neally 3 years, the bullshit goes far deeper than
Any of us could have expected actew as part of the alliance have made some completely
Outrageous discussions in regards to this. Just you wait till I get hold of a desktop computer
As I’m not typing that much on a phone, I’m just one of a tight group of heavy plant operators
Who’s main role is placing the actual
Concrete, it’s taken along time lots of practice and focus to achieve
Big numbers and quality and this is how they treat us
Imagine if we all didn’t go back it would take months and months to even train people to achieve safety quality and productivity of the current crews,
Cheers talk soon

I-filed 9:34 pm 06 Mar 12

Soooo, MarkS would have dedicated quite some of his own work time to this project, yes? Why doesn’t he take a cut in HIS hours?

Tony 9:32 pm 06 Mar 12

So who’s going to clean up the mess? maybe these contractors could? just a thought

Hopefully they dont fire 200 people, hire 200 other people for cleanup once completed have to rehire 200 people to continue damn building.

The rehiring could take months, or this this the plan I wonder? The project is was going to run late anyway, now they can blame the rains and the fact they had t spend months to rehire staff.

Total shame

dungfungus 9:29 pm 06 Mar 12

thatsnotme said :

I agree that is sucks royally that workers will be losing their jobs because of this, but really, what’s the alternative? Blow out the (already blown out) budget by even more by paying contract staff who can’t do their jobs?

I’m sure many of those complaining about this would be the same people giving it to ACTEW and the government about the budget blowing out even further, so they’re damned if they do, and damned if they don’t. I’m sure there would be plenty of other day laborers who have lost money on construction sites around Canberra recently too – the difference is they’re lucky enough to be on a site that will dry out quickly (once it stops bloody raining at least!), and isn’t covered in mud and debris.

Fingers crossed that those now without work, can find it elsewhere quickly.

Knowing little about the construction industry though, I’m curious… What does the fact that they’ve been forced to let these workers go mean once the project can resume? Will the dam project end up with a workforce of new people lacking experience on the project? Or would the current workers be expecting to shift back to the dam once work there is happening again?

“so they’re damned if they do, and damned if they don’t…..”
Best pun of the week.

Ian 9:22 pm 06 Mar 12

What would people expect as an alternative to laying these people off? Have ACTEW burn $1m a week to have them sitting on their arses for a couple of months?

thatsnotme 9:09 pm 06 Mar 12

I agree that is sucks royally that workers will be losing their jobs because of this, but really, what’s the alternative? Blow out the (already blown out) budget by even more by paying contract staff who can’t do their jobs?

I’m sure many of those complaining about this would be the same people giving it to ACTEW and the government about the budget blowing out even further, so they’re damned if they do, and damned if they don’t. I’m sure there would be plenty of other day laborers who have lost money on construction sites around Canberra recently too – the difference is they’re lucky enough to be on a site that will dry out quickly (once it stops bloody raining at least!), and isn’t covered in mud and debris.

Fingers crossed that those now without work, can find it elsewhere quickly.

Knowing little about the construction industry though, I’m curious… What does the fact that they’ve been forced to let these workers go mean once the project can resume? Will the dam project end up with a workforce of new people lacking experience on the project? Or would the current workers be expecting to shift back to the dam once work there is happening again?

2604 8:45 pm 06 Mar 12

HenryBG said :

Is this “Workchoices” in action?

Yeah, and with any luck John Howard won’t get re-elected as Prime Minister so this new Rudd guy can repeal the Work Choices legislation and get industrial relations back to their 1970s heyday.

poetix 8:18 pm 06 Mar 12

People should remember this before they bang on about problems with their public service jobs. (Or their husband’s public service job, in some cases…)

dungfungus 6:19 pm 06 Mar 12

HenryBG said :

Is this “Workchoices” in action?

Hopefully that’s another 220 people educated on why they shouldn’ be voting for Gary Humphries next year.

You are about 4 years behind the times HenryBG. I am glad you mentioned “people educated” because there are also “educated people”. The later group understand how the building business operates. Would you rather have ACT ratepayers underwrite their wages for 3 months? There will be no problem for them anyhow as we have the world’s best treasurer running the economy the envy of the rest of the world with the lowest unemployment rate. The fact that we still have the highest interest rates is surely an oversight.

knuckles 5:20 pm 06 Mar 12

Henry82 said :

That’s the game you play as a contractor. As for the “permanents” i don’t know what their contract says, so we won’t know.

Exactly,
Contractors have to make hay while the sun shines. Apparently they have been making plenty of hay up until now with employment costs stated at 150 to 200 K per day.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/jobs-to-be-cut-back-as-cotter-dam-work-stops-20120304-1ubep.html

HenryBG 4:59 pm 06 Mar 12

Henry82 said :

That’s the game you play as a contractor. As for the “permanents” i don’t know what their contract says, so we won’t know.

Oh, I see – so there will be fewer people in hard hats and steel-capped boots dining at Ottomans in the coming months?

p1 4:57 pm 06 Mar 12

As much as it sucks for people in that position, contractors are contractors in the knowledge that they are always only a rainy week away from unemployment.

I wonder what the legality is of diving for sunken scaffolding in the Murrumbidgee and selling it back to ACTEW? Do marine laws of salvage apply in rivers?

Henry82 4:52 pm 06 Mar 12

That’s the game you play as a contractor. As for the “permanents” i don’t know what their contract says, so we won’t know.

HenryBG 4:47 pm 06 Mar 12

Is this “Workchoices” in action?

Hopefully that’s another 220 people educated on why they shouldn’ be voting for Gary Humphries next year.

harvyk1 4:23 pm 06 Mar 12

Ok, I understand how they can let people go if their services are really not required, but not paying employees past a certain day because your project didn’t go to plan… Me thinks Fair Work Australia might have something to say about this in the coming days or weeks.

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