12 June 2009

CRK back behind bars

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The ABC reports that the young man known only as “Clea Rose’s Killer” (or CRK for mine) is back behind bars after the police hunted him down.

    He has been in jail awaiting sentencing for a spate of fresh crimes including theft, burglary, receiving stolen goods and property damage.

    Two weeks ago he was released on bail to visit his ailing grandfather in Calvary Hospital but he absconded.

    Police recaptured him last night.

Having strained even the legendary mercy of Chief Justice Higgins he has been ordered back to the Hume Hilton.

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Jethro said :

Duffbowl said :

HenryBG said :

There is far too much here identifying CRK’s real name, which is still AFAIK subject to a suppression order.

IOW, you’re going to be in the poo if you don’t clean a bit of this up.

Which is a bit ridiculous, seeing as he has outed himself as CRK on Facebook. Then again, ridiculous could be used to describe the justice system in Canberra.

I’m fairly sure the page was a mock page. The bit down the bottom was far too cogent.

I’m with HenryBG on this. The law may be an ass, but it is still the law.

Yeah, if that’s really his Facebook page, then I’m a monkey’s uncle.

Duffbowl said :

HenryBG said :

There is far too much here identifying CRK’s real name, which is still AFAIK subject to a suppression order.

IOW, you’re going to be in the poo if you don’t clean a bit of this up.

Which is a bit ridiculous, seeing as he has outed himself as CRK on Facebook. Then again, ridiculous could be used to describe the justice system in Canberra.

I’m fairly sure the page was a mock page. The bit down the bottom was far too cogent.

I’m with HenryBG on this. The law may be an ass, but it is still the law.

Sorry ColourfulSydneyRacingIdentity, I was trying to quote you using the quote thingy and it didn’t work. I am still a newbie here and working it out.

sigh. Even though hes asking for forgiveness, his Facebook isn’t really helping. Sounds like he really needs to work on himself and who he hangs out with.

downindowner10:15 am 12 Oct 12

Interesting talk here about the background of the worst inmates in American gaols. Bit of a trend there apparently.
http://www.ted.com/talks/david_r_dow_lessons_from_death_row_inmates.html

HenryBG said :

There is far too much here identifying CRK’s real name, which is still AFAIK subject to a suppression order.

IOW, you’re going to be in the poo if you don’t clean a bit of this up.

Which is a bit ridiculous, seeing as he has outed himself as CRK on Facebook. Then again, ridiculous could be used to describe the justice system in Canberra.

colourful sydney racing identity9:32 am 12 Oct 12

bundah said :

Pandy said :

http://www.facebook.com/bradley.potts.925?ref=ts&fref=ts

I have nothing to hide now. I throw myself down to the mercy of public opinion and ask for one-more-chance.

Brad

Just one more chance Bradley?

‘Favorite Quotations It was’nt me. I didn’t do it.’

There is far too much here identifying CRK’s real name, which is still AFAIK subject to a suppression order.

IOW, you’re going to be in the poo if you don’t clean a bit of this up.

Pandy said :

http://www.facebook.com/bradley.potts.925?ref=ts&fref=ts

I have nothing to hide now. I throw myself down to the mercy of public opinion and ask for one-more-chance.

Brad

Just one more chance Bradley?

Apparently he pleaded as mitigating circumstances that he was suffering depression because of the media attention following CR’s death …. but the beak reminded him that his name had been suppressed and he was a juvenile at the time!

Can CRK please have the MULLY regardless of the numbers?

LSWCHP said :

I had a gentle, kind and sorta wacky mate back in the early 1980s. He was a Vietnam veteran and he was a public servant and he was gay and he never hurt anybody but he was one of the first victims of HIV/AIDS in this country. When he died in his early 40s his remaining hair was white and he had no teeth left and he looked about 90 and I could barely recognise him. He was a great bloke and he suffered an awful awful fate that he surely didn’t deserve.

This’ll make me sound like 53 different kinds of bastard, but if that could happen to my friend who did nothing to deserve it, then I can only wish that the same fate befalls Mr CRK who I think may well deserve it.

That would depend on CRK having the enormously silly idea to take it up the arse.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd8:37 pm 11 Oct 12

LSWCHP said :

I had a gentle, kind and sorta wacky mate back in the early 1980s. He was a Vietnam veteran and he was a public servant and he was gay and he never hurt anybody but he was one of the first victims of HIV/AIDS in this country. When he died in his early 40s his remaining hair was white and he had no teeth left and he looked about 90 and I could barely recognise him. He was a great bloke and he suffered an awful awful fate that he surely didn’t deserve.

This’ll make me sound like 53 different kinds of bastard, but if that could happen to my friend who did nothing to deserve it, then I can only wish that the same fate befalls Mr CRK who I think may well deserve it.

Life’s not fair. Too many times decent peeps abe bad stuff happen while scum live life with no problems.

I had a gentle, kind and sorta wacky mate back in the early 1980s. He was a Vietnam veteran and he was a public servant and he was gay and he never hurt anybody but he was one of the first victims of HIV/AIDS in this country. When he died in his early 40s his remaining hair was white and he had no teeth left and he looked about 90 and I could barely recognise him. He was a great bloke and he suffered an awful awful fate that he surely didn’t deserve.

This’ll make me sound like 53 different kinds of bastard, but if that could happen to my friend who did nothing to deserve it, then I can only wish that the same fate befalls Mr CRK who I think may well deserve it.

I wonder if the day will ever come where he’d really badly like to change his spots?

Martlark said :

…. The court also heard he began consuming alcohol at the age of nine, and began smoking cannabis at 10, something Justice Burns described as a “tragedy”…

Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/clea-roses-killer-jailed-for-thefts-20121011-27eo3.html#ixzz28xBZCHPA

Others may describe that as “unsurprising”.

Others may describe him as a total Potts-head!

For killing Clea Rose, he would have been locked up in Bimberi, not AMC. Even when he turned 18, he almost certainly would have served out his sentence in Bimberi. From what I can tell, he hasn’t been locked up in AMC before.

But rehabilitation in the adult corrections system is unlikely to work for this idiot. Given the length and content of the criminal history known to the community, the die was cast long before he turned 18. He won’t choose to reform, and will continue to be a plague on the community.

Mr Gillespie said :

When can we reveal this bastard’s name without fear of retribution? He’s no longer a juvenile and therefore no longer entitled to anonymity.

It shows up in the google auto complete field if you search for “Clea Rose”.

Chopper said :

Mr Evil, wake up its not a holiday home its a 21st century jail.. not a 1800’s ball and chain jail. Jail is a lot different now to say 50 years ago and this is what happens when EVERYONE presses their RIGHT to do things. Its not a hotel thats for sure have you been in there? or was BRC a hotel as well? I guess next you will say Golburn is as well and Bathurst..

But i bet you had a better chance at life than most the people in jail. We simply cant kill people or lock them up in segro for the whole time they are in jail. I mean i know for a fact that a lot of the people including some well known canberra criminals were sexually abused as kids, not given a proper education and not housed in a safe environment.. does that mean they are bad people? no – simply that they do not know any better. I cant see matt massey’s son becoming a QC can you? but is that his fault? no he does not know any better and this has been going on for most criminals throughout there entire family tree..

excuses excuses. There are plenty of people who have had a shity upbringing and don’t become career criminals.

Because theses low life’s get a slap on the wrist they think they can do anything they like when they like and get away with no consequences . Sure these people should get 1 or 2 chances at turning their life around but to continue to cotton wool them is absurd. I say after a couple of blown chances they should have to learn a lesson the hard way .

CRK can’t seem keep his nose clean for 3 months. I’m sure decent people are missing out on help because of scumbags like this guy sucking money out of the system and draining it dry..

Mr Gillespie3:24 pm 11 Oct 12

When can we reveal this bastard’s name without fear of retribution? He’s no longer a juvenile and therefore no longer entitled to anonymity.

He will be eligible for parole in Jan 2015 so we might see him back up to his old tricks in no time!

Conan of Cooma2:27 pm 11 Oct 12

Chopper said :

Mr Evil, wake up its not a holiday home its a 21st century jail.. not a 1800’s ball and chain jail. Jail is a lot different now to say 50 years ago and this is what happens when EVERYONE presses their RIGHT to do things. Its not a hotel thats for sure have you been in there? or was BRC a hotel as well? I guess next you will say Golburn is as well and Bathurst..

But i bet you had a better chance at life than most the people in jail. We simply cant kill people or lock them up in segro for the whole time they are in jail. I mean i know for a fact that a lot of the people including some well known canberra criminals were sexually abused as kids, not given a proper education and not housed in a safe environment.. does that mean they are bad people? no – simply that they do not know any better. I cant see matt massey’s son becoming a QC can you? but is that his fault? no he does not know any better and this has been going on for most criminals throughout there entire family tree..

All I got from your spiel is that you, too, are a weakling. Many people have had shittier lives than me, most have had better, but in no way does that account for behaving like a total cunt later in life. It doesn’t justify it, it doesn’t excuse it, it doesn’t provision for it in any way… Whatsoever.

If you are too weak to escape the rut, it’s your own fault. Being in the rut may not have been your decision, but escaping is.

Some interesting comments here from two people who apparently know “Brad”, the scumbag.

http://jorian.com.au/creative/2010/12/the-moron-who-killed-clea-rose-at-it-again/

carnardly said :

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/clea-roses-killer-jailed-for-thefts-20121011-27eo3.html

5 years.

Wasn’t that more than he got for killing Clea?

…. The court also heard he began consuming alcohol at the age of nine, and began smoking cannabis at 10, something Justice Burns described as a “tragedy”…

Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/clea-roses-killer-jailed-for-thefts-20121011-27eo3.html#ixzz28xBZCHPA

Others may describe that as “unsurprising”.

colourful sydney racing identity1:19 pm 11 Oct 12

My normal, lefty, humanitarian principles have teomprarily left me. Rot in jail.

nyssa76 said :

Whatever the case….unless you’re a judge or a jury, it’s not really your right to decide a person’s fate

Really? Wasn’t Clea Rose’s fate ‘decided’ for her by that little toe-rag?

Enough of the PC BS.

Everyone is responsible for their own actions. It’s about time he took ownership of his behaviour/actions and acted like a man.

+1

His past may have been difficult, but his present and his future are now his choice, and he chooses to continue to break the law.

He deserves whatever is coming to him. Karma’s a bitch.

I think the suppression of juvenile criminals identity is fine when its petty crime and for maybe a couple of chances. Kids make mistakes and should get the benefit of some doubt. However, when they become habitual offenders, or commit serious big boy type crimes, I think their right to identity protection is lost.

nyssa76 said :

Everyone is responsible for their own actions. It’s about time he took ownership of his behaviour/actions and acted like a man.

Todays society is missing that. It is a society of blamers ….. “It wasn’t my fault, it was blah blah” Alot of people will point the finger when it is their fault and not accept responsibility for THEIR actions. You even see it when major things happen, ie forces of nature, and still people have this thing of wanting someone to blame, when there is no one to blame at all.

These people that get caught breaking the law and they happen to have had a horrible upbringing, need to sit back and look at themselves and their actions, then say “what do I have to do to CHANGE” Ignorance and bad upbringing does not sit well with me as an excuse.

Whatever the case….unless you’re a judge or a jury, it’s not really your right to decide a person’s fate

Really? Wasn’t Clea Rose’s fate ‘decided’ for her by that little toe-rag?

Enough of the PC BS.

Everyone is responsible for their own actions. It’s about time he took ownership of his behaviour/actions and acted like a man.

This guy should never ever be known as the CRK by name, there is a law in place for minors for a reason….think about what that reason might be!!

Some people have great parents and turn out to be terrible people and some people have terrible parents and turn out to be great people. Think of the choices you made as a child and think about what magistrates see in their time and why they make the decisions they do before you judge the magistrate or the child (who is still a child).

Could be that this kid is a serial killer waiting to happen, could be that this kid will do some more bad things before his life is over or it could be that this kid will wake up and realise that things he did as child were so bad that he spends the rest of his life regretting them. Whatever the case….unless you’re a judge or a jury, it’s not really your right to decide a person’s fate!

Sadly this person is going to be forever tied up in the legal system. Poor judgement made by the Rose family who thought they could change him!!!! Will people learn?

Clown Killer10:48 pm 12 Jun 09

we can only hope.

I assume that when CRK is convicted for crimes committed as an adult the suppression of his identity will cease, people can put two and two together and figure out that some named individual = CRK, and then we can vilify the prick by name.

BerraBoy68 said :

Clown Killer said :

We all make choices in our lives. Some good. Some not so good. Some that we will really regret. I will concede that a crap upbringing as a child isn’t by any measure a great start in life, but like I said we all make choices.

I my mind. there’s nothing wrong in making a mistake – even a seriously bad one – as lomng as you’re preparted to live with the consequences and to learn from that mistake (which in my book means not making the same mistake twice).

I think that CRK has had his chances. He’s made his choices. Let him live with the outcome – without the do-gooders intervening to ‘give him one more go’.

Agreed CK – how can we learn if we don’t make mistakes? However, as VY said also, you have to want to learn from these mistakes and take positive messages from the lessons that are presented to you.

CRK may well learn in the future and choose a different path. He’s certainly if he continues down the path he’s currently on without stopping to recognise the off ramps that are presented to him. Sadly, I suspect some poor innocent Canberran is currently going about their life quite happily without the knowledge that they are going to be CRK’s next victim.

He’s certainly (insert * screwed*) if he continues down the path he’s currently on without stopping to recognise the off ramps that are presented to him.

Clown Killer said :

We all make choices in our lives. Some good. Some not so good. Some that we will really regret. I will concede that a crap upbringing as a child isn’t by any measure a great start in life, but like I said we all make choices.

I my mind. there’s nothing wrong in making a mistake – even a seriously bad one – as lomng as you’re preparted to live with the consequences and to learn from that mistake (which in my book means not making the same mistake twice).

I think that CRK has had his chances. He’s made his choices. Let him live with the outcome – without the do-gooders intervening to ‘give him one more go’.

Agreed CK – how can we learn if we don’t make mistakes? However, as VY said also, you have to want to learn from these mistakes and take positive messages from the lessons that are presented to you.

CRK may well learn in the future and choose a different path. He’s certainly if he continues down the path he’s currently on without stopping to recognise the off ramps that are presented to him. Sadly, I suspect some poor innocent Canberran is currently going about their life quite happily without the knowledge that they are going to be CRK’s next victim.

Clown Killer8:42 pm 12 Jun 09

Sorry – sticky keys or slow internet or somthing.

Clown Killer8:41 pm 12 Jun 09

We all make choices in our lives. Some good. Some not so good. Some that we will really regret. I will concede that a crap upbringing as a child isn’t by any measure a great start in life, but like I said we all make choices.

I my mind. there’s nothing wrong in making a mistake – even a seriously bad one – as lomng as you’re preparted to live with the consequences and to learn from that mistake (which in my book means not making the same mistake twice).

I think that CRK has had his chances. He’s made his choices. Let him live with the outcome – without the do-gooders intervening to ‘give him one more go’.

Alright everyone, chill on the personal abuse and Chopper’s off to mod.

Felix the Cat8:21 pm 12 Jun 09

I wonder if the people like Chopper and Justice Higgins would still have the same warmth in their heart if a family member or friend was robbed/assulted/killed by people like CRK?

Chopper, as a person who had a shitty childhood (which I rarely discuss in detail), let me tell you that you are full of it.

Every has a choice in life.

Not every abused person becomes a criminal and not every criminal is an abused person.

I’m sick of the “they had a bad home life” mantra. Grow the F&^K up.

(But i bet you had a better chance at life than most the people in jail. We simply cant kill people or lock them up in segro for the whole time they are in jail. I mean i know for a fact that a lot of the people including some well known canberra criminals were sexually abused as kids, not given a proper education and not housed in a safe environment.. does that mean they are bad people? no – simply that they do not know any better. I cant see matt massey’s son becoming a QC can you? but is that his fault? no he does not know any better and this has been going on for most criminals throughout there entire family tree..)

Blow it out your Ass Chopper you and CRK should cop a good flogging, you for calling yourself chopper, and CRK because he needs to understand there is consequences for his stupidity for theres is no excuse for taking another persons LIFE.

Chopper said :

does that mean they are bad people?

Possibly and this case, yes. The only difference is that they may have better excuse in court.

Unfortunatly, i don’t prescribe to the hollywood misconception that they can be reformed, for the most part. I just finished reading a book called “Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us” . The author belives that most of these types of people are fundamentally broken. They have no empathy or remorse, except for themselves.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

But i bet you had a better chance at life than most the people in jail. We simply cant kill people or lock them up in segro for the whole time they are in jail. I mean i know for a fact that a lot of the people including some well known canberra criminals were sexually abused as kids, not given a proper education and not housed in a safe environment.. does that mean they are bad people? no – simply that they do not know any better. I cant see matt massey’s son becoming a QC can you? but is that his fault? no he does not know any better and this has been going on for most criminals throughout there entire family tree..

Of course lots of criminals have shitty histories, and these no doubt contribute to their sorry state. BUT, there are a lot of people who have also had shitty upbringings, and manage to turn out OK, without continually breaking the law. We should definitely be helping these people, but these crims need to want to change too.

It’s not that these people don’t know better, most of them just don’t care.

Good comments, VY.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy4:26 pm 12 Jun 09

But i bet you had a better chance at life than most the people in jail. We simply cant kill people or lock them up in segro for the whole time they are in jail. I mean i know for a fact that a lot of the people including some well known canberra criminals were sexually abused as kids, not given a proper education and not housed in a safe environment.. does that mean they are bad people? no – simply that they do not know any better. I cant see matt massey’s son becoming a QC can you? but is that his fault? no he does not know any better and this has been going on for most criminals throughout there entire family tree..

Of course lots of criminals have shitty histories, and these no doubt contribute to their sorry state. BUT, there are a lot of people who have also had shitty upbringings, and manage to turn out OK, without continually breaking the law. We should definitely be helping these people, but these crims need to want to change too.

It’s not that these people don’t know better, most of them just don’t care.

Gungahlin Al4:13 pm 12 Jun 09

Clearly he’s rehabilitating nicely…

Mr Evil, wake up its not a holiday home its a 21st century jail.. not a 1800’s ball and chain jail. Jail is a lot different now to say 50 years ago and this is what happens when EVERYONE presses their RIGHT to do things. Its not a hotel thats for sure have you been in there? or was BRC a hotel as well? I guess next you will say Golburn is as well and Bathurst..

But i bet you had a better chance at life than most the people in jail. We simply cant kill people or lock them up in segro for the whole time they are in jail. I mean i know for a fact that a lot of the people including some well known canberra criminals were sexually abused as kids, not given a proper education and not housed in a safe environment.. does that mean they are bad people? no – simply that they do not know any better. I cant see matt massey’s son becoming a QC can you? but is that his fault? no he does not know any better and this has been going on for most criminals throughout there entire family tree..

Case #: CR07/00157
SURNAME, First Names: ZZZ: Name Suppressed
Date: 12/06/2009
Time: 10:00

I hope they’ve fixed the heating at the Hume UN Approved Holiday Home for Naughty Boys so that CRK doesn’t get the snuffles.

He has just won the memorial S4anta award for oxygen thievery.

So, how many people did CJ Higgins sent to the Hume Hilton today, and what are their names and ages?

Oh come on,
can’t we just give the poor guy another chance?

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