CRK strikes again

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/clea-rose-killer-a-changed-man-20120829-2502l.html

yes but he’s a changed man now. *rolls eyes*

and now he has PTSD and depression….

What about the Rose family…?

I don’t know. I’ve met a few girls that sounded like Sez and I swear they had balls!! LOL

#140

+1

But gilrs like Sez can’t grow a pair.

Sez009 hate to say this but people like you REALLY p!ss me off!!! You call yourself this guy’s friend and then blow smoke up his @ss by justifying his criminal actions. You say you care about him and how a much of a decent bloke he is but do you ever say how much you think he’s screwing his life up by doing these criminal actions? Do you ever tell him how disappointed you are in him for not cleaning his life up? No instead, you’re the one focussing on his worst crime and using that as an excuse for his actions. “Oh poor CRK it’s ok I understand you had to commit all those crimes. I mean, what more can we expect after that horrible accident”. Here’s a parting thought. How about you grow a pair, be his REAL friend and tell him exactly what he is and how that is effecting everyone around him (let alone the community) and how he’s forfeiting his life by continuing this path. Maybe with less smoke up there something might get through to him.

shadow boxer said :

…I wonder if CRK would have benefited from a sentence that incorporated a stint in the army…

The problems with this idea are many, not the least of which being the army doesn’t want to be a baby sitting service for the dregs of society. The US military has the advantage (in this respect at least) of being *huge*, so can absorb a lot more of this kinda thing. Personally I wish we had options like this in Australia too, but I think instituting something similar to giving people the choice between jail or the marines is a little more complex then simply forcing the army to accept them.

Maybe we could make the police take them?

This thread makes me sad, there are no winners apart from a few blowhards making themselves feel good.

Hey sez, I wonder if CRK would have benefited from a sentence that incorporated a stint in the army, maybe three years when he turned 17 and they could have taught him a trade like truck driving or to be a mechanic.

In the States it used to be common for young men going off the rails to receive a stint in the Marines, didn’t alaways work but did sometimes.

Sure worked well, a few are out already!!!

farnarkler said :

Motleychick, sez099 is so good at digging a deep hole they’re being sent to Chile to help with the trapped miners.

Hahahaha nice call!

Motleychick, sez099 is so good at digging a deep hole they’re being sent to Chile to help with the trapped miners.

Pork Hunt said :

This has to stop soon, I’m out of popcorn. Georges, you got any left?

I sprayed it all over the computer reading about Tigger.

This has to stop soon, I’m out of popcorn. Georges, you got any left?

sez099 said :

butt at the end of the day he did the crime he did the time so get off his fucking back u low life CU#T!! Thats the thing that you just cant cut it!! you wonder why people get there back up when he did the time for what he did!

Hmm.
The comment about doing the time for the crime, and the implication that this returns someone back to a morally neutral position, I just do not agree with. Irrespective of the length of time served it doesn’t change the past.

CRK had a better opportunity than most to start afresh. Being a minor, the Child Protection Laws ensured his identity was kept on the low down. Continually re-offending has done him no favours.

It’s all up to him to step up and away from his past. If he wants be be left alone, not begin a perpetual shitbag is a good start. Good luck.

Some people missed the memo that using ‘txt speak’ automatically denotes you as a buttplug.

sez099 said :

tooks lol ur a funny man wat am i spelling wrong? pretty sure im done with school theres nothing wrong with the way i spell sometimes i shorten things so fucking what u cant change that!!

ur, wat, im, theres, u.

You’re done with school? Maybe you can help your friend get out of his life of crime and do something constructive with his life.

Jim Jones said :

sez099 said :

yes it did happen!! but he didnt have any help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so go fuk urself you lil pooh jabber

You’ve got to be a very special kind of stupid to not even be able to spell ‘poo’ properly.

That has to be the funniest thing I have read in a while. I’m still laughing.

BTW, sez – give up before you dig yourself a deeper hole. He made the choice to steal that car, and him being scared of getting in trouble because he was young is no excuse to not pull over when the police chased him. Oh and it’s not the fault of the police either – they have a job to do, and it’s to protect society from people like this man. They have done nothing wrong. There is no excuse for what he’s done, and I agree that there is not a lot of help for rehabilitating people who have been in prison to get back into society – but he should know right from wrong. If his parents are such lovely people, they should be supporting him, as should his friends. Nothing you say will make anyone side with him on this – he killed someone by his own choice. It was not accident. He may not have had the intent to kill, but he shouldn’t have stolen a car in the first place. Or run from the police after he stole that car. Everyone has the opportunity to make decisions in their life and everyone knows the difference between right and wrong. Most of us choose the law abiding one. He should have made that choice too and none of this would have happened.

There is plenty of help to people in the Judicial system in the prisons and when on parole. Ms Rose’s family offered help plenty of times. He has a ‘good’ family and ‘friends’ who are prepared to stick up for him. Lifeline and any other service.

Even call the Police – they have plenty of programs for kids at risk. ACT Police have a whole area designated to the prevention of crime – call them – they’ll help as it saves all the other coppers doing the paperwork on sending him to Court – yet again.

It all comes back to CRK.

Captain RAAF said :

Jim Jones said :

sez099 said :

yes it did happen!! but he didnt have any help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so go fuk urself you lil pooh jabber

You’ve got to be a very special kind of stupid to not even be able to spell ‘poo’ properly.

That’s it, I’m out for the duration, it’s going to take me ages to stitch my sides back together!

Not to mention the affect this will have on Tigger!

I suspect Tigger was the wild animal referred to above who will be doing my washing.

sez099 said :

But once again you think it was meant to be as easy for him as it was for you huh??
you keep forgetting he killed an innocent person he had no help in there nothing!!
no guide to get into society again he was just put back into the world with such a burden on his shoulders..

So society owes him for killing an innocent woman?

You’re a wasted talent, sez. You should go into law, or the Iraqi Information Ministry if they still had one.

Can we stop calling it an accident please. A deliberate action resulting in the death of another human is not an accident.

Someone out on parole for a couple of months and committing offences to get them thrown back in obviously isn’t learning too quick.

Sez – No threat – just if you hang around people who live the lifestyle sooner or later you’ll come unstuck. Sitting in the passenger seat of a car he is driving etc. Or stay around and put in some effort – you say he had no support and no numbers to call yet you appear to be a friend. What are you doing to keep him on the straight and narrow?

Epic fail on your part.

sez099 said :

yes it did happen!! but he didnt have any help!

Sez – please detail the help you think he should receive, that the crown might provide it this time around, since he is once again their guest.

Please also draw the connection for us between feeling remorse for an exceptionally unfortunate series of events that took place at the age of 14, and a strong of convictions for burglary, theft, and criminal damage – you seem to forgive these actions by reference to the event and its lasting impact on the offender?

sez099 said :

yes it did happen!! but he didnt have any help

He had plenty of help. Was he a good boy before he became CRK? No. He graduated from the school of bad boys with flying colours and got honours when he killed someone.
Prior to earning the CRK nickname, I’d put money down that he’d offended plenty of times before, been reprimanded by the cops several times, and given his family years of grief and tears.
And I’d bet more money down that his family tried and tried and tried to help him and slow him down his fast descent into notoriety.

Am I right? Or are you saying that when he murdered someone that was his first time he’d committed a crime?
Sorry, he had plenty of help, he just chose to ignore it.

sez099 said :

yes it did happen!! but he didnt have any help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sez – You’ve mentioned before that his parents are wonderful loving people. Surely they should have taken some responsibility in obtaining counselling and assistance for their son once he was released from jail and helped him get back on the right track by doing everything possible, within their means, to get him clean?

Why didn’t they help him? If they tried and he refused, then what makes you think he would have accepted help from any government appointed counselling?

Jim Jones said :

sez099 said :

yes it did happen!! but he didnt have any help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so go fuk urself you lil pooh jabber

You’ve got to be a very special kind of stupid to not even be able to spell ‘poo’ properly.

That’s it, I’m out for the duration, it’s going to take me ages to stitch my sides back together!

Not to mention the affect this will have on Tigger!

sez099 said :

yes it did happen!! but he didnt have any help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so go fuk urself you lil pooh jabber

LOL, if you dig yourself any deeper you wont be able to get out.

sez099 said :

yes it did happen!! but he didnt have any help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so go fuk urself you lil pooh jabber

Where was Clea Rose’s help?

sez099 said :

just move on with life an forget that he killed an innocent person..?

I sure hope he never forgets it. But take responsibility for your own actions and learn to be a better person. When he got out all it would have taken was to get a bit of government assistance, maybe a shelf-packing job (anyone can do that) then bills start to get paid, get a life and so on.

It’s what the rest of us manage to do (some with better opportunities than others)

sez099 said :

Sorta like throwing a wild animal (tiger) into your fucking laundry whats it going to do??

I’d throw in some soap and water and save on powering the washing machine.

sez099 said :

yes it did happen!! but he didnt have any help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so go fuk urself you lil pooh jabber

You’ve got to be a very special kind of stupid to not even be able to spell ‘poo’ properly.

yes it did happen!! but he didnt have any help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so go fuk urself you lil pooh jabber

Captain raaf, ok but in the same sense was he thinking straight was he sober?? had something else grabbed hold of his life?? not everyone thinks the same & i understand totally where you are coming from but yous never stop to even think twice about what im saying!

captain raaf said:Police dragged me to court, Dad gave me a flogging, promised I’d fly right and have been a good boy ever since. So yeah, I can see how an accident could have happened and I could have killed someone but the very first time I was caught I sorted my shit out.

But once again you think it was meant to be as easy for him as it was for you huh??
you keep forgetting he killed an innocent person he had no help in there nothing!!
no guide to get into society again he was just put back into the world with such a burden on his shoulders..
Sorta like throwing a wild animal (tiger) into your fucking laundry whats it going to do??
Just remember he has to live with what he did!

p1 said: But he had a clean break! He did the time he was sentenced. They he got out.

At that point he was a young man with every chance to get on with his life. His name wasn’t on record, so potential employers would no little about his history.

Yous just dont understand being 14years old an killing someone wouldnt exactly be the easiest thing to live with would it? specially when he never had any counselling no help nothing a kid put into do his time with no help.
So tell me would you come out with your head screwed on what do u think it was easy for him to walk out & just move on with life an forget that he killed an innocent person..? who are u trying to kid? That would be with you every step of your life. An even still theres plenty of places out there in the big wide world that will employ people with criminal history!

sez099 said :

Put yourself in his shoes for a second,

Ok, I’ll go first.

Foolishly, I have stolen a car (how the fuck that happened I don’t know, lets put it down to bad sushi and a Vietnam flashback), what the hell was I thinking!!!! Damn, that Police car, is it following me?….shit, it is, better pull over and give myself up, I’m in enough trouble as it is. WOW, that was easy!

Get slap on the wrist, move on to a normal life……as near a perfect outcome as you could get, except that sushi place won’t be seeing any more of my money.

But Noooo, CRK chose the cowards option, I’m in a lot of trouble, I’m going to run and when he did that he washed his hands of every other person around him, he was in it purely for himself because he could have stopped, but he was young and yeah he didn’t set out to kill someone but to demonstrate that the ‘accident’ wasn’t a one off event, he then set out on a life of petty crime. Whoa there, stop the bus!!! Why has he continued to break the law? because he feels guilt at what he did, the life he took? Funny way of showing it. Why not demonstrate real remorse? Why not educate other kids, help the schools, help society better itself by really acting and addressing what happened and why and trying to decrease the chance some othe poor kid does the same thing?

You say no-one ever gave him a chance? What happened to getting off his arse and giving society a chance to accept him back? What did he do to put us at ease? No really, what DID HE DO?

Piss off to Queensland and pick fruit for a couple of years, get your life in order, change your name even because all we hear from your girlfriend/mates here are excuses, excuses for behaviour that law abiding people cannot and will not ever accept.

There is always a way out, you just have to be man enough to make the first step.

footnote:
I broke into my Primary School several times as a juvenile, ran amok, tore up golf courses, high speed car chases with the Police (never, ever in high density areas as my several runs up the Hume setting land speed records will atest), all before I was 20…got caught once, Police dragged me to court, Dad gave me a flogging, promised I’d fly right and have been a good boy ever since. So yeah, I can see how an accident could have happened and I could have killed someone but the very first time I was caught I sorted my shit out. What did your mate do?

Anyone can make a mistake….once. It’s what YOU do afterwords that matters!

tooks lol ur a funny man wat am i spelling wrong? pretty sure im done with school theres nothing wrong with the way i spell sometimes i shorten things so fucking what u cant change that!!

sez099 said :

Well yous are preetty interested in his life must make him feel a bit popular LOLL!! BAHAAHAAA

No one is as interested in his life as you are, apparently. Shouldn’t you be in school right now, learning how to spell at least at a primary school level?

sez099 said :

And then u go and do the time for what he did & even still he cant get a clean break the way all you people make him feel is like he deserves to be in there for the rest of his life you don’t make it any easier for him to turn his life around!!

But he had a clean break! He did the time he was sentenced. They he got out.

At that point he was a young man with every chance to get on with his life. His name wasn’t on record, so potential employers would no little about his history.

Well yous are preetty interested in his life must make him feel a bit popular LOLL!! BAHAAHAAA

p1 said:If the young man responsible for the death of Clea Rose did not get reported in the media I would not spend a second thinking about him or his past behaviour. If he was not caught committing crimes he would not be in the public eye any more.

As was discussed, the history of his situation has pluses and minuses for him. While the media keeps mentioning his connection to CR (which continues to enrage the public) it has the advantage of preventing them from directly naming him.

So what is causing him to act the way he does? Are his family still supporting him? Is he committing crimes to support a drug habit, to eat, or because he is so mentally unwell he thinks it is somehow right?

By having the court imposed restriction on his name being connected to CR (because he was a kid) he is at an massive advantage over most other people getting out of gaol. If he throws away that advantage then he is a cock.

Thats exactly rite, therefore you are only on his back because he is known for the biggest mistake of his life! thats why i don’t know why you all cant just drop it and leave him alone let him live a life without seeing what you write about him!
Yeah & i think thats wrong to cause she has gone up above & yet they bring her up when something is said about him! NO he doesn’t take drugs thankyou! maybe its because no one will give him a break & he needs help & the fact that he hears an sees what people say like about him deserving a bullet an a rope & crap as i said before i don’t know why you don’t go an focus on something worth it like child molesters & crap that shit is on purpose.. Put yourself in his shoes for a second, how would it affect you if u accidentally killed someone at the age of 14 years old? And then u go and do the time for what he did & even still he cant get a clean break the way all you people make him feel is like he deserves to be in there for the rest of his life you don’t make it any easier for him to turn his life around!!
An maybe a big part of is the fact that they haven’t given him no help since his been in there so his had nothing to get it off his chest!!
But as i say again you only know half of the truth the media tells you watt you want to hear! if you met him at a bar n didnt no any different you would think fuck his a nice decent bloke & then if you knew you would think twice! you all don’t no him soo how about stay the fuck off this crap n get on with your own fuckin lives instead of trying to live his!

This thread is getting sadder by the post. On one side we have the Chinese-human-rights-single-bullet approach and on the other we have the my-mate’s-a-good-bloke defence.

Maybe we should all just ignore CRK so at least he doesn;t get the gratification of media coverage for his dastardly deeds.

geez sorry lol

If the young man responsible for the death of Clea Rose did not get reported in the media I would not spend a second thinking about him or his past behaviour. If he was not caught committing crimes he would not be in the public eye any more.

As was discussed, the history of his situation has pluses and minuses for him. While the media keeps mentioning his connection to CR (which continues to enrage the public) it has the advantage of preventing them from directly naming him.

So what is causing him to act the way he does? Are his family still supporting him? Is he committing crimes to support a drug habit, to eat, or because he is so mentally unwell he thinks it is somehow right?

By having the court imposed restriction on his name being connected to CR (because he was a kid) he is at an massive advantage over most other people getting out of gaol. If he throws away that advantage then he is a cock.

sez099 said :

Tooks said:It is time like toothless, banjo playing albinos like CRK just “disappear”. You all be next.

Tooks, his not toothless, he deff is not a banjo player , umm & not an albino sorry more fits ur description!

Geez you’ve made a mess of your quotes. If you are going to quote me, at least quote what I said. Have another look and you’ll see I never made that comment.

farq said :

I don’t care about punishment (it’s pointless), I’d like to see him rehabilitated so he can lead a normal life.

It’s not pointless to the victims of crime.

Yes, it would be great to see him rehabilitated, but he has to want to be rehabilitated too.

Postalgeek said:I’d say [a] girlfriend if anything…
That just proves how wrong “yous” all really are no im not his girlfriend.

Fine.

Sister
Cousin
De Facto
All of the above.

Take your pick.

HAHHAHHAAHAHAHHAAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
LOL HOW WRONG YOU REALLY ARE JERK OFF!

Captain RAAF said:CRK is a man now and if he truly was remorseful he is now capable of sorting his life out and starting again, yes he can actually get his life back on track. He can walk out of prison and get a “””””JOB”””” even if it’s just as a shitty labourer and he can build himself up from scratch.

Show’s how much u really fuckin know hahaha keep tellin urself wat u think u know!!

Captain RAAF said: Oh great, now the entire CRK family of supporters is coming out of the woodwork!

CRK won’t ever rehabilitate, what he learns in jail will only make him realise that he has no place in society and isn’t welcome, so he’ll just resort to what he knows best and that is criminal activity so best to put a bullet in him now and save the taxpayer, and his future victims, a lot of money and heartache.

If my son was a habitual pisshead, criminal, stole a car and killed an innocent person and still couldn’t snap out of his ‘lifestyle’ then I’d give him $10,000 and a 10 minute head start and tell him he doesn’t want to let me catch up to him and he better go as far as Argentina before he stops for a rest, so that’s what I would do with my son, as for CRK, well he’d just get the 10 minutes start.

A lot of the blame must fall on the parents, they screwed up, they either didn’t read the signs or didn’t care so they too need a beating and that father should be neutered so he can’t contaminate the gene pool any further and the mother should take herself to a convent and say 3 million hail Mary’s until her arms fall off or whatever the religious whacko’s think will do the trick.

Theres plenty more of us where we’ve come from!
He will rehabilitate, he does have a fuckin place in society whether u like it or not and he clearly is welcome!! You all really have to see past what he accidentally did!
Thats so wrong & heartless about the bullet crap an u wonder y he cant move on maybe cos everytime he comes out he see’s all this shit!! His got as much right as you have to be in this world!
His not a pisshead, an il correct u there, accidentally killed an innocent person!
You can dribble that shit all you like because till your in a position like that you don’t know what it would be like.. You cant disown you own kid cause of mistakes.. His parents didn’t fucking screw up they did as much as they could you don’t know half of the story your just another low life with nothing better to do so you come on here to bring a young guy an his family down! And you should take ur ass across the other side of the world an do us a favour & don’t return cos ppl like u make me sick!

Waiting for godot said :Austen Tayshus has just announced a series of performances at Casino Canberra. Is sez099 the warm up act?

Waiting for god it: You got it in 1!!

Pork Hunt said:I can’t believe God ever shovelled guts into an oxygen thief like we have just seen…

Pork Hunt: Keep your 2cents worth out of it! your 1 that shouldn’t hae been brought into this world 2 say such a thing as u have..

Georgesgenitals said: So what is he doing to get his act together? From the criminal record he has it looks like a BIG FAT NOTHING!

georgesgenitals: You don’t know what he did when he got out to try to turn his life around you don’t know shit!

Tooks said:It is time like toothless, banjo playing albinos like CRK just “disappear”. You all be next.

Tooks, his not toothless, he deff is not a banjo player , umm & not an albino sorry more fits ur description! “you all be next”” watt r u referring to??

He was a kid FFS ofcourse he knew he was doing the wrong thing so his going to run.. He didn’t go out that day to kill anybody intentionally it was a accident u stupid human get it through your head! people like you are a waste of space & fresh air.

Chris820 said: I remember last year when he was released on humanitarian bail from the Hume Hilton, to visit a sick grandparent. And he ended up doing the Harry. lol what a dropkick.

Yeah maybe he was silly for running away but he was scared!! the problem here is no one can stop and think for a second how it would feel to be him??

Sez099 said: it was not his fault that he hit clea rose soo get that out of ur head thats the ovbious bit here!!

Chris820 said: It was his fault he was high, his fault he was drunk, his fault he had stolen the car, his fault he was driving unlicensed, his fault he was fleeing from police, his fault he was driving at speed through the streets of civic.?Plus a guilty plea to a conviction of culpable driving causing death…?What’s the obvious bit here?
Ok the obvious bit here is that he was doing the wrong thing!! butt at the end of the day he did the crime he did the time so get off his fucking back u low life CU#T!! Thats the thing that you just cant cut it!! you wonder why people get there back up when he did the time for what he did!
How do u think Clea rose’s parents would feel if they got on here & seen all this crap? they found it within there hearts to forgive him, they think the cops are as much to blame as him!!
Special G said:
“If you are one of his buddies then best thing for you is to run as far away as possible.”
What are you trying to get at?? Is that like some sort of threat?? Cause if so don’t beat around the bush buddy?

Farq said:Hate the crime, not the criminal guys.
sez099, you obviously care about the young man in question but I have to ask:
What can the people of Canberra do to protect ourselves from his reckless actions?
While his recent crimes have been without violence, he obviously does not think about the negative impact on other people.
You must worry that one day his actions might accidentally result in another person being hurt or killed. He has trouble now living with the guilt over killing someone, how bad will he feel if it happens again?
I don’t care about punishment (it’s pointless), I’d like to see him rehabilitated so he can lead a normal life.
But… If he is beyond help, at some point society has to be protected from him and he needs to be protected from himself.
Well maybe give him a go & realise what he did 6years ago was an accident & he done his time for that. Sometimes people that are emotionally & physically traumatised don’t have time to think about the consequences of what you do at the time. Another thing also is that he could think that he deserves to be in jail for the rest of his life for what he accidentally did 6years ago because other people cant give him a break an continue to write nasty stuff like bullets & ropes!!
He wouldn’t hurt anyone. Thankyou for that line “I don’t care about punishment (it’s pointless), I’d like to see him rehabilitated so he can lead a normal life.”
Thanks but his done his punishment & everyone still goes on with his past hows he ever meant to live a bit of a normal life with things like this? I’d like to see him lead a normal life to & it can happen he just needs a bit of ago & he needs to be rehabilitated the jail system has no rehabilitation like he needs! he came back into the society with no numbers to call no help nothing!! His not beyond help.
Ko. said: Is Sez he one with the stolen credit card?
KO- loll if thats watt u want to think then go ahead!! the problem is that you guys believe every little detail the media puts out there & half of its lucky to be true!
So tell me something all u fuckin haters,
So if you were driving drunk & had our best mate in the car n u killed him what does that make you?? hmm?
To all the disgusting people that are saying he deserves a bullet or to go neck himself, SOO what 2 WRONGS make a RIGHT now do they??
Didn’t your parents ever teach you that 2 wrongs don’t make a right!! you are a bunch of low lives give the poor guy a break!!

farq said :

Hate the crime, not the criminal guys.

sez099, you obviously care about the young man in question but I have to ask:

What can the people of Canberra do to protect ourselves from his reckless actions?

While his recent crimes have been without violence, he obviously does not think about the negative impact on other people.

You must worry that one day his actions might accidentally result in another person being hurt or killed. He has trouble now living with the guilt over killing someone, how bad will he feel if it happens again?

I don’t care about punishment (it’s pointless), I’d like to see him rehabilitated so he can lead a normal life.

But… If he is beyond help, at some point society has to be protected from him and he needs to be protected from himself.

Solid farq. Unlike a lot of the Alan Jones-inspired BS being sprouted by some people here.

sez099 said :

Postalgeek said:I’d say [a] girlfriend if anything…
That just proves how wrong “yous” all really are no im not his girlfriend.

Fine.

Sister
Cousin
De Facto
All of the above.

Take your pick.

yoyo12 said :

haha that would be right, because sez is defending this boy and his family you automatically think sez had something to do with a crime, grow up just because you don’t like the response everyone has a right to an opinion, doesn’t mean sez is a criminal!

He’s not a boy.

Crime generally isn’t high on the list as a path to redemption. Go tell him to train to save lives.

Oh great, now the entire CRK family of supporters is coming out of the woodwork!

CRK won’t ever rehabilitate, what he learns in jail will only make him realise that he has no place in society and isn’t welcome, so he’ll just resort to what he knows best and that is criminal activity so best to put a bullet in him now and save the taxpayer, and his future victims, a lot of money and heartache.

If my son was a habitual pisshead, criminal, stole a car and killed an innocent person and still couldn’t snap out of his ‘lifestyle’ then I’d give him $10,000 and a 10 minute head start and tell him he doesn’t want to let me catch up to him and he better go as far as Argentina before he stops for a rest, so that’s what I would do with my son, as for CRK, well he’d just get the 10 minutes start.

A lot of the blame must fall on the parents, they screwed up, they either didn’t read the signs or didn’t care so they too need a beating and that father should be neutered so he can’t contaminate the gene pool any further and the mother should take herself to a convent and say 3 million hail Mary’s until her arms fall off or whatever the religious whacko’s think will do the trick.

CRK is a man now and if he truly was remorseful he is now capable of sorting his life out and starting again, yes he can actually get his life back on track. He can walk out of prison and get a job, even if it’s just as a shitty labourer and he can build himself up from scratch. So how about you SEZ and you, Yo-Yo speaking to him and asking him if he wants to sort his life out and I’ll bet you anything you like he’ll say “Yeah, I wanna go straight!” and i’ll triple that bet if he actually makes an effort when he gets out of the slammer because he’s a bloody coward and prefers the easy life of crime, like all the grubs out there!

Ko. said :

Sez is a girls name.

why does is matter if “sez” is a girls or boys name? stop tying to put sez down because you have nothing better to say to her response.

Ko. said :

Is Sez the one with the stolen credit card?

haha that would be right, because sez is defending this boy and his family you automatically think sez had something to do with a crime, grow up just because you don’t like the response everyone has a right to an opinion, doesn’t mean sez is a criminal!

Growling Ferret said :

Seems this shitbag was also the lad behind the wheel of the car involved in the recent Kingston police chase…

How many chances?

Don’t know where you’re getting your facts from but this one is 100% untrue.

farnarkler said :

Is it really so wrong to want people like this executed? The amount of money this individual has and will cost the taxpayer vs one .22 calibre bullet surely makes a good argument.

@farnarkler
Wow, I must say that is so so sad that you seem to think this would help you sleep at night…. even though you’ve still got hundreds of thieves on the streets un heard of, it’s sad and pathetic. I am so glad for the parents I have, at least i know if i made a massive mistake like this boy they wouldn’t be loading up the shotgun to make the world a “better place” I feel sorry for your children. Executing someone doesn’t make the world a better place it just goes to show that you have no respect for human life! what this kid has done was an accident, and yes fair enough now he has offended again. I think they need to have
a look at the jail system, what systems do we have to help rehabilitate criminals back into society? Programs to begin in jail before they are released to help them rejoin society? Yes the blame lands in the hands of the criminals but what has been done to help them find the right path, yes we have jails but obviously they are not working so well. What chance has a criminal got when they get out to a world that doesn’t want to accept them, a world that thinks a .22 calibre bullet will solve all our problems pffft! next time you get a speeding fine or a parking ticket i hope you think about shooting yourself in the head because you have done the wrong thing and disgraced our society farnarkler!!

Oh come on, this is someone’s little boy you are talking about here. So you will need a couple more bullets. Parents did a fine job raising him.

@Wraith
Are you kidding me?! seriously! how dare you say that, it aggravates me so much! what gives you the right to judge this boy’s family like that! You have literally NO IDEA what his parents are like or how he was brought up! What are parents expected to do? chain their children up so they don’t do the wrong thing? jump off your high horse and come back to the real world, these kind of comments make me embarrassed to think of the people we have in our society it disgusts me!

Is Sez the one with the stolen credit card?

On Sez is his bitch. Same thing really when you go to the slammer.

Ko. said :

Sez is a girls name.

Probably Sarah, or a variant thereof.

Sez is a girls name.

sez099 said :

Maybe his continuing crime because he feels guilty for what his done or cant live with the fact of what his done?? do yous eva stop 2 think about why he reacts in this manor?

So this person continues to commit crimes that hurt other defenceless Canberrans to assuage his feelings of guilt over killing Clea Rose.

Which manor does he react in? Where is this manor in Canberra? His parents must be very wealthy for him to be reacting in this secret manor.

This sez bloke has even got me agreeing with what farq says.

Special G said :

This thread is making me chuckle.

It CRKs me up…

farq said :

I don’t care about punishment (it’s pointless), I’d like to see him rehabilitated so he can lead a normal life.

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Anyone that thinks people like the Pottster can be rehabilitated are farqen kidding themselves and responsible for our pathetic attitude towards sentencing on these miscreants.

Lock em up or send em to hell, either way they have no place in society!

This thread is making me chuckle.

Hate the crime, not the criminal guys.

sez099, you obviously care about the young man in question but I have to ask:

What can the people of Canberra do to protect ourselves from his reckless actions?

While his recent crimes have been without violence, he obviously does not think about the negative impact on other people.

You must worry that one day his actions might accidentally result in another person being hurt or killed. He has trouble now living with the guilt over killing someone, how bad will he feel if it happens again?

I don’t care about punishment (it’s pointless), I’d like to see him rehabilitated so he can lead a normal life.

But… If he is beyond help, at some point society has to be protected from him and he needs to be protected from himself.

Sez099 try this:

Choose to steal a car
Choose to run from the Police (instead of stop) Damn those Police for being on the street looking for stolen cars.
Choose to drive through the bus interchange at high speed
Choose to keep committing offences
Choose to be one of lifes biggest losers (note the spelling)

If you are one of his buddies then best thing for you is to run as far away as possible.

I remember last year when he was released on humanitarian bail from the Hume Hilton, to visit a sick grandparent. And he ended up doing the Harry. lol what a dropkick.

sez099 said :

it was not his fault that he hit clea rose soo get that out of ur head thats the ovbious bit here!!

It was his fault he was high, his fault he was drunk, his fault he had stolen the car, his fault he was driving unlicensed, his fault he was fleeing from police, his fault he was driving at speed through the streets of civic.
Plus a guilty plea to a conviction of culpable driving causing death…
What’s the obvious bit here?

Pandy said :

Dear sezz099,

Of course it was no accident. So says the coroner:

http://www.courts.act.gov.au/magistrates/dec/Rose.pdf

Law abiding reasonable people do not drive through a busy pedestrian zone at speeds to knock a person 23 metres through the air and then refuse to stop, just becasue they were afraid of the cops.

It is time like toothless, banjo playing albinos like CRK just “disappear”. You all be next.

CRK must’ve been using the Simpson’s defence:

Bart: All right. But on my way, I’m going to be doing this…
[windmills his arms]
Bart Simpson: If you get hit, it’s your own fault.
Lisa: Okay, then I’m going to start kicking air, like this…
[kicks up her foot]
Lisa: And if any part of you should fill that air…
[kicks up her other foot]
Lisa: It’s *your* own fault.

CRK: I’m gonna be driving through a pedestrian area in a stolen car. If you get hit, it’s your ooown fault.

sez099 said :

I didnt intentionally mean it like that look out of what im saying im meaning, Theres no explanation for him doing what his doing now but what i am saying is that maybe because of what he has to live with is why he acts the way he does!! Its not something you can just fuckin forget. Its like when your angry or hurt you say things you dont mean but you stil say them!

So what is he doing to get his act together? From the criminal record he has it looks like a BIG FAT NOTHING!

Dear sezz099,

Of course it was no accident. So says the coroner:

http://www.courts.act.gov.au/magistrates/dec/Rose.pdf

Law abiding reasonable people do not drive through a busy pedestrian zone at speeds to knock a person 23 metres through the air and then refuse to stop, just becasue they were afraid of the cops.

It is time like toothless, banjo playing albinos like CRK just “disappear”. You all be next.

I can’t believe God ever shovelled guts into an oxygen thief like we have just seen…

Austen Tayshus has just announced a series of performances at Casino Canberra. Is sez099 the warm up act?

By the way if this was any other person doing this you all would not be sitting there dribbling your shit its only that the stupid media wont give him a break and they keep puttin “”CRK””.. Him killing clea rose was not on fuckin purpose but look at all the fuckin child molesters & child abusers and stuff out there that is on purpose they are dirty BASTARDS soo why dont you all go find them & bring them down cause that sort of stuff is on purpose!!

MArvin 78: i can say YOUS all i want cause yous aint shitt to me!!

Tooks said: ofcourse it wasnt his fault it was evryone elese:
Tooks i never said it wasnt his fault and i didnt say it was evry1 elses thanku!!

If u read up above i said it was an accident it wasnt intentionally and yes it was his fault he got behind the wheel in the first place but it was not his fault that he hit clea rose soo get that out of ur head thats the ovbious bit here!!

Pommy bastard:His parents are not to blame either sometimes you have no control over what your kids do. You try to lead them in the right direction & hope for the best but as i said its not something you have control over 24-7!! any normal person can tell you this!
His parents are absoluetly lovely people so dont you dare go bringing them down!

muttsybignuts said:BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA….best laugh I’ve had all day. No, I’m sure this is why he still steals other peoples hard earned stuff, to ease his guilt”..

I didnt intentionally mean it like that look out of what im saying im meaning, Theres no explanation for him doing what his doing now but what i am saying is that maybe because of what he has to live with is why he acts the way he does!! Its not something you can just fuckin forget. Its like when your angry or hurt you say things you dont mean but you stil say them!

(Rabble Rouser)Said: Something about the way you write wants me to ask:

Were you the one who accidentely killed Clea Rose?

Well thats pretty lame, how would i be the 1who accidentely killed her? His in jail if u remember u fuckin looser!!

Postalgeek said:I’d say [a] girlfriend if anything…
That just proves how wrong “yous” all really are no im not his girlfriend.

georgesgenitals said:Boyfriend perhaps?

No georgey!! unlike ur sign in name he dont swing that way so your unfortunate there

Pommy Bastard said:Flame of the month?

I disagree with the idea that a bullet should be used as a cheap way of saving society from more costs, heartache and destruction from this P.O.S.

A length of rope would be much cheaper.

Pommy bastard you need 2go back to ur own country an read up about your shit over there.
Thats pretty low to say that rope would be cheaper! You wouldnt even know half of the truth..

P1 said:I’d say Stormboy’s post is hoping that CRK will get some real time for the crimes committed recently. Implying that the time served for activities relating to CRKilling was a little light on..

Well for 1 he was a minor 2 it was half the coppers faults aswell 3it was an accident!!!!

when yous all seen the thing about him accidentley killing clea rose,Did it say he killed her accidentley or on purpose?? ask yourselves that question!!

KO (troublemaker) Said you would lol!!
You are a heartless prick you can not sit there and say you would be fine it affects you evryday for the rest of ur life you low life looser go neck yaself!!

“I’d like to plead guilty, and undertake 504 new offenses in mitigation of my guilt. Society is to blame, as are my parents, and whoever owned the stolen car I was driving. Sua culpa”

“Maybe his continuing crime because he feels guilty for what his done or cant live with the fact of what his done??”

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA….best laugh I’ve had all day. No, I’m sure this is why he still steals other peoples hard earned stuff, to ease his guilt.

Um… “YOUS” is not a word.

+1 on the length of rope.

Pommy bastard said :

A length of rope would be much cheaper.

Bigger initial investment, but cheaper in the long run.

+1 FOTW

Best flame I’ve read for a long time.

Of course it wasn’t his fault – it was everyone elses.

Ko. said :

sez099 said :

if you were fuckin a teenager & u hit a beautiful innocent person

I lol’d.

Keep your eyes on the road and not the teenager you are fucking in the car, for gods sake people, how many times do I have to tell youse!

If sez099 was their Lawyer I dare say we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

sez099 first things first; go back to school and this time concentrate on English.

Everyone has choice over their actions unless they’re mentally ill. Anyone can choose to hang out with a bunch of losers, to commit crime and to generally be a burden to society. On the other hand, anyone can choose to get out of the gutter, make use of government provided assistance and become a decent member of society.

It’s so unfortunate that he will be put away in what appears to be a drug filled holiday camp.

… no pun intended.

Ko. said :

sez099 said :

if you were fuckin a teenager …

I lol’d.

At my age the police would be after me!

sez099 said :

if you were fuckin a teenager & u hit a beautiful innocent person

I lol’d.

sez099 said :

sez099 said :

Yeah what his done is wrong but the whole CKR situation is totally not all his fault

“””Georgesgenitals””: Oh, and this is total crap.

So wat are u tryin to tell me, he hit her intentionally?
It was not totally all his fault he was getting chased by coppers an being so young and knowing that what he was doing was the wrong thing off coarse his going to run!! It wasn’t all his fault.. Y do u think they stopped chasing people ever since then? hmmm?
Look outside the square you all fuckin live in for once an realise his sorry for what he did he did the time & you’s dont fucking no him from a bar of soap..

p1 said: I don’t know this kid personally, but have it on good authority that he has committed several property offences over an extended period of time, clearly demonstrating that he has absolutely no respect whatsoever for other people.

Even if we were to chalk up the whole CRKilling thing to youthful indiscretion, by not shaping up and flying right he has shown total disrespect to her memory. By continuing to commit crimes he has shown that the incident in question was not a one off poor decision, but part of a pattern.

p1: Have u ever stopped to think about how it would affect you mentally & physically for the fuckin rest of your life, if you were fuckin a teenager & u hit a beautiful innocent person over 1 bad choice you made which you didnt think would happen??
NOO yous havent!!
Maybe his continuing crime because he feels guilty for what his done or cant live with the fact of what his done?? do yous eva stop 2 think about why he reacts in this manor? He will learn & realise & until then i think yous should give up with the fucking lame comments such as the bullet crap!! And p1 i couldnt give a shit what you say about him having no respect for anyone cause i know damn wel he does you all just have to remember the word, KARMA!!!!!!!

Flame of the month?

I disagree with the idea that a bullet should be used as a cheap way of saving society from more costs, heartache and destruction from this P.O.S.

A length of rope would be much cheaper.

Postalgeek said :

Reply

sez099 said :

Stormboy Said: know it’s silly to think it but, lets hope he gets some real time for the latest round of indiscretions

How hasnt he done his time for his previous crimes?

I’d say Stormboy’s post is hoping that CRK will get some real time for the crimes committed recently. Implying that the time served for activities relating to CRKilling was a little light on.

Karma is what happens when one of his mates steals a car and runs into him Mully style.

Sez099 – you funny Ha ha.

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sez099 said :

sez099 said :

Yeah what his done is wrong but the whole CKR situation is totally not all his fault

“””Georgesgenitals””: Oh, and this is total crap.

So wat are u tryin to tell me, he hit her intentionally?
It was not totally all his fault he was getting chased by coppers an being so young and knowing that what he was doing was the wrong thing off coarse his going to run!! It wasn’t all his fault.. Y do u think they stopped chasing people ever since then? hmmm?
Look outside the square you all fuckin live in for once an realise his sorry for what he did he did the time & you’s dont fucking no him from a bar of soap..

p1 said: I don’t know this kid personally, but have it on good authority that he has committed several property offences over an extended period of time, clearly demonstrating that he has absolutely no respect whatsoever for other people.

Even if we were to chalk up the whole CRKilling thing to youthful indiscretion, by not shaping up and flying right he has shown total disrespect to her memory. By continuing to commit crimes he has shown that the incident in question was not a one off poor decision, but part of a pattern.

p1: Have u ever stopped to think about how it would affect you mentally & physically for the fuckin rest of your life, if you were fuckin a teenager & u hit a beautiful innocent person over 1 bad choice you made which you didnt think would happen??
NOO yous havent!!
Maybe his continuing crime because he feels guilty for what his done or cant live with the fact of what his done?? do yous eva stop 2 think about why he reacts in this manor? He will learn & realise & until then i think yous should give up with the fucking lame comments such as the bullet crap!! And p1 i couldnt give a shit what you say about him having no respect for anyone cause i know damn wel he does you all just have to remember the word, KARMA!!!!!!!

I love stream of consciousness posts

sez099 said :

sez099 said :

Yeah what his done is wrong but the whole CKR situation is totally not all his fault

“””Georgesgenitals””: Oh, and this is total crap.

So wat are u tryin to tell me, he hit her intentionally?
It was not totally all his fault he was getting chased by coppers an being so young and knowing that what he was doing was the wrong thing off coarse his going to run!! It wasn’t all his fault.. Y do u think they stopped chasing people ever since then? hmmm?
Look outside the square you all fuckin live in for once an realise his sorry for what he did he did the time & you’s dont fucking no him from a bar of soap..

p1 said: I don’t know this kid personally, but have it on good authority that he has committed several property offences over an extended period of time, clearly demonstrating that he has absolutely no respect whatsoever for other people.

Even if we were to chalk up the whole CRKilling thing to youthful indiscretion, by not shaping up and flying right he has shown total disrespect to her memory. By continuing to commit crimes he has shown that the incident in question was not a one off poor decision, but part of a pattern.

p1: Have u ever stopped to think about how it would affect you mentally & physically for the fuckin rest of your life, if you were fuckin a teenager & u hit a beautiful innocent person over 1 bad choice you made which you didnt think would happen??
NOO yous havent!!
Maybe his continuing crime because he feels guilty for what his done or cant live with the fact of what his done?? do yous eva stop 2 think about why he reacts in this manor? He will learn & realise & until then i think yous should give up with the fucking lame comments such as the bullet crap!! And p1 i couldnt give a shit what you say about him having no respect for anyone cause i know damn wel he does you all just have to remember the word, KARMA!!!!!!!

Something about the way you write wants me to ask:

Were you the one who accidentely killed Clea Rose?

Stormboy Said: know it’s silly to think it but, lets hope he gets some real time for the latest round of indiscretions

How hasnt he done his time for his previous crimes?

sez099 said :

Maybe his continuing crime because he feels guilty for what his done or cant live with the fact of what his done??

I actually think you might be onto something with this particular thread. Undoubtedly the situation of the CR incident will haunt him for a long time. However, sad as it may be that the ACT juvenile justice system was unable to make him a good little citizen, he lives in the same world as the rest of us, and the majority of the population do not commit repeated property offences, so he will have to accept the consequences of his actions.

And no, I don’t really think his crimes warrant capital punishment, but I do think a good long stretch would keep him away from us for a while.

I know it’s silly to think it but, lets hope he gets some real time for the latest round of indiscretions

Captain RAAF*Said: pauses to give this guy a break……………….ok, that’s long enough, can we execute this pile of shit now?

hmmm forgot 2 laugh… Get over it & go stick your 2cents worth else where!

sez099 said :

Yeah what his done is wrong but the whole CKR situation is totally not all his fault

“””Georgesgenitals””: Oh, and this is total crap.

So wat are u tryin to tell me, he hit her intentionally?
It was not totally all his fault he was getting chased by coppers an being so young and knowing that what he was doing was the wrong thing off coarse his going to run!! It wasn’t all his fault.. Y do u think they stopped chasing people ever since then? hmmm?
Look outside the square you all fuckin live in for once an realise his sorry for what he did he did the time & you’s dont fucking no him from a bar of soap..

p1 said: I don’t know this kid personally, but have it on good authority that he has committed several property offences over an extended period of time, clearly demonstrating that he has absolutely no respect whatsoever for other people.

Even if we were to chalk up the whole CRKilling thing to youthful indiscretion, by not shaping up and flying right he has shown total disrespect to her memory. By continuing to commit crimes he has shown that the incident in question was not a one off poor decision, but part of a pattern.

p1: Have u ever stopped to think about how it would affect you mentally & physically for the fuckin rest of your life, if you were fuckin a teenager & u hit a beautiful innocent person over 1 bad choice you made which you didnt think would happen??
NOO yous havent!!
Maybe his continuing crime because he feels guilty for what his done or cant live with the fact of what his done?? do yous eva stop 2 think about why he reacts in this manor? He will learn & realise & until then i think yous should give up with the fucking lame comments such as the bullet crap!! And p1 i couldnt give a shit what you say about him having no respect for anyone cause i know damn wel he does you all just have to remember the word, KARMA!!!!!!!

sez099 said :

#Thumper said:
This kid, according to some teacher friends, has been a social misfit with no respect for anyone or anything since an early age.

Thumper that is a load of crap i know this kid personally & he is a very respectfull person. You would be suprised at how polite & respectful he is so dont judge a book by its cover…..quote]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

sez099 said :

totally not all his fault he had no intensions of hitting Clea & killing her

What an odd (and unusually specific) piece of apologism…

sez099 said :

Thumper that is a load of crap i know this kid personally & he is a very respectfull person. You would be suprised at how polite & respectful he is so dont judge a book by its cover…..

I don’t know this kid personally, but have it on good authority that he has committed several property offences over an extended period of time, clearly demonstrating that he has absolutely no respect whatsoever for other people.

Even if we were to chalk up the whole CRKilling thing to youthful indiscretion, by not shaping up and flying right he has shown total disrespect to her memory. By continuing to commit crimes he has shown that the incident in question was not a one off poor decision, but part of a pattern.

farnarkler said :

The amount of money this individual has and will cost the taxpayer vs one .22 calibre bullet surely makes a good argument.

I’d be willing to chip in a few dollars so we can buy a larger calibre.

p1 said :

54-11 said :

Where’s Mully when we need him.

+1

Maybe a second award? The Pottsy!

C’mon Johnboy, you know you want to!

Sez099: I think he got a break, and he has continued to blow the chance, again and again.

BTW: rehab is clearly doing the trick…

sez099 said :

Yeah what his done is wrong but the whole CKR situation is totally not all his fault

Oh, and this is total crap.

/buys popcorn, settles back…

sez099 said :

So give the guy a break & think before you speak..

*pauses to give this guy a break……………….ok, that’s long enough, can we execute this pile of shit now?

#Thumper said:
This kid, according to some teacher friends, has been a social misfit with no respect for anyone or anything since an early age.

Thumper that is a load of crap i know this kid personally & he is a very respectfull person. You would be suprised at how polite & respectful he is so dont judge a book by its cover…..

Arnarkler said :

Is it really so wrong to want people like this executed? The amount of money this individual has and will cost the taxpayer vs one .22 calibre bullet surely makes a good argument.

That is absolutely wrong, everybody makes mistakes & it takes some people longer to realise there actions! I would hold your breath if i was you Because if you have kids or when you have kids you will realise then what its really like to have teenage kids, not all kids turn out the way you want them to.. you can only do so much to try to lead them in the right direction but you can not sit there an say that someone else’s kid deserves a bullet, karma could turn around an bite you in all the right places!! Yeah what his done is wrong but the whole CKR situation is totally not all his fault he had no intensions of hitting Clea & killing her its only that he got behind the wheel got chased & has freaked out as any teenager would & then its unfortunately happened that he was in the wrong place at the wrong time & has hit Clea yes he did the crime & he payed the time an he lives with what his done everyday! The only reason all you’s hear about what he done is because of what he did when he was a teenager theres f!@#$%^ burglaries everyday & crime is commited everyday but not everyone hears about that! He hangs around the wrong crowd which gets him into trouble & he lives with what he has done everyday!

So give the guy a break & think before you speak..

Aha, I had a feeling the “prominent local website” referred to this morning on 2CN was RA.

zek said :

Me no fry said :

Just wondering, does the user name you’ve chosen have any significance pertinent to the matter being discussed?

No, I’ve never been an inmate.

Didn’t mean to imply you are, or ever have been! I was speculating that perhaps you thought a trip to the gulag was overdue for CRK.

Me no fry said :

Just wondering, does the user name you’ve chosen have any significance pertinent to the matter being discussed?

No, I’ve never been an inmate.

Wraith said :

farnarkler said :

Is it really so wrong to want people like this executed? The amount of money this individual has and will cost the taxpayer vs one .22 calibre bullet surely makes a good argument.

Oh come on, this is someone’s little boy you are talking about here. So you will need a couple more bullets. Parents did a fine job raising him.

I laughed at this, I admit, but don’t be so quick to judge. I remember reading in the CT years ago a story written by one of its journalists, about his boy’s descent into criminal behaviour, drug use and imprisonment, while all the time his parents were desperately trying everything they could think of to help.

As for the boy, though, I think it should be obvious he’s used up all of his “last chances” and it’s now time for a serious spell in prison. It probably won’t help him, but at this stage that’s not really the point.

Something else I read that struck a chord with me, was in a book by Theodore Dalrymple – to paraphrase, he said that he was always amazed that some people thought that if the world was a fairer place there would be less people in prison – he thought that if the world was a fairer place there would be more people in prison.

This child stole my car to commit some burglaries a few weeks before the Clea Rose incident.

The police were well aware of his activities at that stage, the unusual thing is they actually assured me he comes from quite a respectable family who were distraught at his bahaviour and would actually report him to the police if they found out he was doing the wrong thing.

It’s not always the parents to blame

farnarkler said :

Is it really so wrong to want people like this executed? The amount of money this individual has and will cost the taxpayer vs one .22 calibre bullet surely makes a good argument.

Oh come on, this is someone’s little boy you are talking about here. So you will need a couple more bullets. Parents did a fine job raising him.

I know this is a serious matter, but I lost it when I read “Dr Allnutt, a psychologist”…couldn’t read the rest of it without a slight smile…

Is it really so wrong to want people like this executed? The amount of money this individual has and will cost the taxpayer vs one .22 calibre bullet surely makes a good argument.

The firing squad would be a suitable punishment for this individual. It is highly unlikely that he will ever be anything more than a low life scumbag impacting negatively on the community.

zek said :

To quote hk0reduck:

*cough*

http://www.courts.act.gov.au/supreme/sentences/potts.htm

Thanks for posting that.

zek said :

To quote hk0reduck:

*cough*

http://www.courts.act.gov.au/supreme/sentences/potts.htm

Thanks!

Just wondering, does the user name you’ve chosen have any significance pertinent to the matter being discussed?

Thanks for that zek.

I was starting to wonder how a hypothetical situation would have played out.
Imagine that this young bloke somehow turned his life around and ran for political office.
Would he have been known as “CRK” because we dare not speak his name?
What if he then became the leader of the opposion in the Assembly?
Phantom could have been an appropriate moniker…

Come on all you lawyer types out there, can we name him now in the light of what zek posted?

Ray @ #16

The media are in a legal bind caused by the law in the ACT.

These laws are intended to protect children. Even sh*tbag criminal minors who go on to be sh*tbag criminal adults.

The edifice falls down when an underage sh*tbag continues to offend into adulthood despite all the nurturing performed by our justice system. In this case the media has only two options.

The media can report the unnamed person as such, giving hints such as being “Clea Rose’s killer”, or alternatively the media can treat the sh*tbag as a cleanskin [at 18+] who so happens to have performed many other offences, but with no mention of the fact they killed Clea.

Do you think you are entitled to more info? How about you ask Stanhope to explain why his laws don’t allow the media to report the truth in cases where judicial leniency has clearly failed?

To quote from the CT:

“Under ACT child protection laws, media outlets risk three years in jail or fines of up to $33,000 if they publish the killer’s name”

This was when CRK had turned 18 and was on the run.

WHY?

So why does “cough” get protection now when he is 20?

Any bush lawyers care to elucidate?

To quote hk0reduck:

*cough*

http://www.courts.act.gov.au/supreme/sentences/potts.htm

I can feel a Mully award coming on…

54-11 said :

Where’s Mully when we need him.

+1

As opposed to monthly sentencing…

Ray Polglaze said :

I don’t think it is fair or respectful to be referring to the “Clea Rose Killer” so many years on.

I think that Clea Rose’s name should be kept for her amd the memory of her.

It seems to perpetuate the crime to give her name to the offender.

It would be better if the adult alleged offender was referred to by his name.

I think that is the least respect we could show Clea Rose and her family.

Ray – I think there is plenty of respect for Clea Rose – it was her family who jumped up and down, supported CRK and blamed the Police for the whole incident. CRK keeps coming up and goes to show how wrong they were and where the blame lies. Also to shine a light on the ACT Court system which seems to perpetuate the behaviour with week sentencing.

Time to ask Mossad for a favour. They’re very good at removing problems

Where’s Mully when we need him.

Skidbladnir said :

If he desperately wants a criminal reputation _independent of being CRK_, I say let him have one.

He’s way ahead of you.

$20 says that any charges against him will be dismissed because the police didn’t fill out the paperwork properly again.

I don’t think it is fair or respectful to be referring to the “Clea Rose Killer” so many years on.

I think that Clea Rose’s name should be kept for her amd the memory of her.

It seems to perpetuate the crime to give her name to the offender.

It would be better if the adult alleged offender was referred to by his name.

I think that is the least respect we could show Clea Rose and her family.

The teenager responsible for the hit-and-run death of Canberra University student Clea Rose has been charged with burglary just a month after being released on parole.
The 20-year-old was arrested yesterday with his 19-year-old girlfriend after she attempted to use a stolen credit card at the North Lyneham shops.

So, contrary to the report, the teenager that was charged wasn’t responsible for anybody’s death, but in a seperate action, they arrested and charged the person responsible for Clea Rose’s death, who was travelling in the same car as the teenager.

georgesgenitals said :

Surely the name will be on public record for the numerous other crimes he has committed?

Sure, but so long as the media keep outing him as CRK in every story piece he appears in, the media also can’t give his name.
If he desperately wants a criminal reputation _independent of being CRK_, I say let him have one.

Skidbladnir said :

Seriously media people, just mention him by his name a few times on seperate crimes, then go back making veiled insinuations.
You’re meant to good at that kind of thing.

If our local press started mentioning him by his name, and not the fact he killed Clea, he’d no longer have the protective aegis that the notoriety\enforced anonymity of his previous crime provides.

PS: The teenager responsible…The 20-year-old was arrested yesterday
Teenager?

Surely the name will be on public record for the numerous other crimes he has committed?

Skidbladnir said :

PS: The teenager responsible…The 20-year-old was arrested yesterday
Teenager?

Teenager when he hit CR… makes sense to me…

screaming banshee said :

You’ve got it all wrong WMC, you’re supposed to do that when people spell it the american way!

I think you’ll find they’re both French.

Seriously media people, just mention him by his name a few times on seperate crimes, then go back making veiled insinuations.
You’re meant to good at that kind of thing.

If our local press started mentioning him by his name, and not the fact he killed Clea, he’d no longer have the protective aegis that the notoriety\enforced anonymity of his previous crime provides.

PS: The teenager responsible…The 20-year-old was arrested yesterday
Teenager?

la mente torbida said :

Sometimes you have to pull the plug….I’m happy for my taxes to pay for this person to spend a long time in gaol.

Pulling the plug is the wrong option.

Puting in the plug.

Up the amperage to the max.

It is okay to spell it jail. It is a commonly accepted variation here. You won’t be sent there for doing it.

Seems this shitbag was also the lad behind the wheel of the car involved in the recent Kingston police chase…

How many chances?

You’ve got it all wrong WMC, you’re supposed to do that when people spell it the american way!

So not twenty bucks, same as in town?

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

What’s a gaol?

Dunno – never been to one.

This individual is clearly beyond rehabilitation, time to go away.

What’s a gaol?

Time to go to gaol. For a long, long while.

Sometimes you have to pull the plug….I’m happy for my taxes to pay for this person to spend a long time in gaol.