13 August 2009

Death at the Prison

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[First filed: August 12, 2009 @ 14:06]

Early reports are coming though on the radio of a death at the Alexander Maconochie Centre.

Just as long as human rights were complied with along the way eh?

More details as they come to hand.

UPDATE 1: The ABC’s initial report is online:

    An ACT Government spokeswoman has confirmed a person has died at the Alexander Maconochie Centre at Hume.

    She said further details on the jail’s first death in custody are likely to be released later today.

UPDATE 2: Hearing it was a remandee, in his 40s, found dead in his cell this morning.

UPDATE 3: The Canberra Times is reporting that the dead man was the epileptic Andreas Bulig, 44. He was on remand following charges of “assault occasioning actual bodily harm, threatening a witness and breaching bail over a series of fights with his neighbours”.

Of some concern is this bit:

    Bulig had applied to the Supreme Court for bail on July 23, saying he lacked access to his epilepsy medicine at the Hume prison.

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“wat about lexi becs other girlfriend noone mentions her was she there she was hotttt but”

Another friend of (unidentified person) is often overlooked as being present (somewhere) …. (unidentified person) was very attractive.

I think she may have posted in the wrong thread. She might want to be in the Charnwood stabbing thread.

georgesgenitals1:37 pm 18 Jun 10

becxgal said :

wat about lexi becs other girlfriend noone mentions her was she there she was hotttt but

If you’re going to be the spokesperson for this group of crims, perhaps you could communicate in a language others will understand. English will do.

wat about lexi becs other girlfriend noone mentions her was she there she was hotttt but

OddAngryPost11:55 pm 17 Aug 09

Maybe if his human right to privacy was taken away and a camera allowed in the cells (bedsitters), Corrections may have been able to have observed the guy in peril and possibly even have saved his life…

Hang on… this Human Rights Act may have some positives in it after all

Housebound
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DarkLadyWolfMother3:05 pm 13 Aug 09

I was with you until the ‘Get a life’ portion Hugh, but at that point I have to say ‘speak for yourself’.

Agrees with sunshine

Hugh Lews said :

Why do so many of you know the names of people in prison, and talk about them like anyone cares?

Every time the prison comes up people start talking about the same guy like he’s a celebrity or something..

Get a life, normal people dont care about people in jail. Even if they die alone on the floor with their tongues hanging out of their mouths….

that’s disgraceful…no matter what they have done to get themselves deprived of the rights so many of us take for granted, they are still people and so called normal people WOULD care.

#33 Why do so many of you know the names of people in prison, and talk about them like anyone cares?

Every time the prison comes up people start talking about the same guy like he’s a celebrity or something..

Get a life, normal people don’t care about people in jail. Even if they die alone on the floor with their tongues hanging out of their mouths….

Obviously these people would have family and friends they weren’t born in Jail – Not the smartest comment in the world! Maybe one day you might be faced with a family friend or even yourself being locked up and then hopefully you will be reminded that these people are human like you.

Hugh Lews said :

Every time the prison comes up people start talking about the same guy like he’s a celebrity or something..

Agree with you on this point. Even when the story has nothing to do with the Massey’s, that surname always pops up.

canberratowie22:23 pm 13 Aug 09

Hugh Lews said :

Why do so many of you know the names of people in prison, and talk about them like anyone cares?

Every time the prison comes up people start talking about the same guy like he’s a celebrity or something..

Get a life, normal people dont care about people in jail. Even if they die alone on the floor with their tongues hanging out of their mouths….

+1

Why do so many of you know the names of people in prison, and talk about them like anyone cares?

Every time the prison comes up people start talking about the same guy like he’s a celebrity or something..

Get a life, normal people dont care about people in jail. Even if they die alone on the floor with their tongues hanging out of their mouths….

jessieduck said :

GUessing PBO knows more then you on this sunshine

Not unless there’s a long lost Massey brother who is actually law abiding. And if there was, I doubt he’d be employed as a guard at AMC when two of the brothers are there at the moment.

I can imagine that happening. From previous experience with a family member, it took them two weeks to access medication for him, that isnt good enough!!!!

housebound said :

Update: Today’s CT gives more information. Apparantly the man was an epileptic and claimed he had no access to his meds. Even if this was not the cause of death, it’s not a good look for the so-called human rights prison. For that matter, why did it take such a fantatsic initiative such a short time to have a death on its hands?

The average prisoner is middle aged, has a history of substance abuse, and smokes and drinks to excess. Often they are withdrawing from drugs, and generally their health is fairly poor. It is not really that unusual that there has been a death at AMC based on the types of people held there.

Also, there is a doctor on duty at the AMC every day of the week. I can’t imagine that someone would not be able to get access to their epilepsy medication!

neanderthalsis9:08 am 13 Aug 09

If it is true that the man had an underlying medical condition that was known to the prison staff yet had been denied access to the required meds, then heads should roll.

There needs to be some serious questions asked in the assembly about this one.

Update: Today’s CT gives more information. Apparantly the man was an epileptic and claimed he had no access to his meds. Even if this was not the cause of death, it’s not a good look for the so-called human rights prison. For that matter, why did it take such a fantatsic initiative such a short time to have a death on its hands?

However this person died, what a waste of life. I think its sad that someone’s life amounted to dying in Jail – RIP

It takes a bit of effort to get yourself on remand in the ACT. Previous convictions, current allegations (type and number) are taken into consideration. This is evident by the number of people let out on bail for murder.

Silentforce said :

I have a problem with those in our community and society who judge every member of a family by their surname- Moran, Massey etc…

Even if they are related, each family member has a right to their own path and decisions.

If a relative or group of relatives has a ‘reputation’, an individual family member regardless of their generation has a right to act and be assessed on their actions as an individual.

If a “Massey” was employed by ACT Corrective Services, I imagine that they would have reported it as a confilct of interest and it would have been dealt by the employer as such, given the long term media and public interest in the new Centre and the Massey case.

I couldn’t agree more. If one of the Massey brothers is, indeed, a prison guard, then he has obviously taken the path of having a steady public service job. Good on him. He probably gets enough crap about his family as it is.

PBO said :

paperboy said :

What chance it’s a Massey?

Unlikely, he and she (Rebecca Edwards/Massey) would be looked after by the other Massey brother who is a guard there.

Bollocks

I have a problem with those in our community and society who judge every member of a family by their surname- Moran, Massey etc…

Even if they are related, each family member has a right to their own path and decisions.

If a relative or group of relatives has a ‘reputation’, an individual family member regardless of their generation has a right to act and be assessed on their actions as an individual.

If a “Massey” was employed by ACT Corrective Services, I imagine that they would have reported it as a confilct of interest and it would have been dealt by the employer as such, given the long term media and public interest in the new Centre and the Massey case.

housebound said :

This is really sickening. 40 is not old, and he died alone in a prison cell.

I fail to see the problem if the deceased was a convicted prisoner rather than, say, someone on remand. It’s the risk you run when you commit a crime. Prison isn’t, or shouldn’t be, a holiday camp where you should expect 24/7 friendly company. It should be a punishment for failing to abide by societies rules.

That said, probably best to await the details before jumping to conclusions (e.g. anyone can die alone from natural causes (sad, but true) but it might be a different ballgame if this person died prematurely for some reason).

>and he died alone in a prison cell.

Or did he?

This is really sickening. 40 is not old, and he died alone in a prison cell.

Whatever. mobile job complete. 40 is old if you live the type of life lived by people who find themselves in prison.

Spideydog said :

Friska said :

Why is it that some people automatically jump to conspiracy conclusions.

Maybe he died because Eastman told him the TRUTH. ie. JFK shot Colin Winchester

Friska said :

Just watch the cover up with this.

Why is it that some people automatically jump to conspiracy conclusions.

This would be fully and comprehensively investigated by Police (independent from Corrections) and then examined by the coroner (the courts, independent from both the Police and Corrections)

Hells_Bells746:41 pm 12 Aug 09

Didn’t take long to haunt.

barking toad6:39 pm 12 Aug 09

Plasma screen probably burnt out half way though next top model

GUessing PBO knows more then you on this sunshine

2 massey brothers are there but neither one is a guard

I don’t have an issue with him being a guard, simply that he is guarding the same prison his siblings are in, so as you say,” a significant conflict of interest”

If he himself does not have a record then there is nothing to stop him working there, however there is a significant conflict of interest there though.

Are you kidding. PBO? A Massey brother is a guard there? Where is the screening of appropriate staff?

Just watch the cover up with this.

Of greater concern is how the phrase “arbitrarily deprived of life” gets interpretted by the ACT Human Rights Commission.

paperboy said :

What chance it’s a Massey?

Unlikely, he and she (Rebecca Edwards/Massey) would be looked after by the other Massey brother who is a guard there.

PBO said :

Just an old man dying in his sleep, nothing to see here.

40’s isn’t old

What chance it’s a Massey?

Death need not mean violent and/or untimely…

Clown Killer3:18 pm 12 Aug 09

everyone of us is going to die sooner or later, and you’ve got to do it someplace.

Just an old man dying in his sleep, nothing to see here.

RIP whoever it was

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