7 January 2008

Death in Kingston - UPDATED

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[First filed: December 05, 2006 @ 08:48]

Thanks to Smokey2 for the heads-up.

The Australian informs us that an “incident” at Kingston’s Fraser Court last night has seen one man dead and another hospitalised.

Anyone know anything more?

UPDATED: LG has pointed out that the SMH has an AAP report describing the incident as an alleged murder “near a housing commission complex in inner suburban Kingston about 9.50pm”.

FURTHER UPDATE: The CT reports that “ACT Public Tenants Association president Ian Edward Hirst, who has publicly raised concerns about anti-social behaviour at the complex, was charged with murder yesterday”

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georgesgenitals9:07 am 05 May 11

KCL said :

FC said :

I think these types of deaths are occuring becuase too many dero f*cks are having too many dero kids and these dero kids are growing up to be loser drug f*cked dero adult crims!!

can’t agree more

Eugenics – you know it makes sense.

FC said :

I think these types of deaths are occuring becuase too many dero f*cks are having too many dero kids and these dero kids are growing up to be loser drug f*cked dero adult crims!!

can’t agree more

el – noted – I thought u were talking about my comments.

Damn internet.

And I bet the offender will feel total remorse for what has happened………

VG, with the number of unsolved murders in Canberra, maybe the AFP need some help from RiotACT anyway? 🙂

If only there were vacancies for all the detectives in this place

Self-defence? So it’s justified that all people living in Kingston are junkies etc, well wouldn’t that mean the accused is also a junkie???? Does he need to be murdered as well because it seems that it’s justified to murder junkies???? Please do not judge people before you know the whole story and circumstances. We are not being judgemental. Try to remember it may be one of your own family members one day.

Would be the emotional rant I was talking about, Danman.

BTW, I won my last fight by 50 metres…

Emotional rant – who? what?

Bonfire – reminds me of a frenzal Rhomb song

“Im not a coward I’ve got sence – when it comes to self defence – I’d rather leave the scene that fight – but you can try and you just might – you can try and you just might – you can succeed to make me bleed”

Words I have had to live by in the past.

if someone attacks me i will use self defence. depending on the nature of the attack upon me, he amount of force used to defend myself will also vary.

people who have no training will go adrenalin crazy in a fight. often emotions such as anger or fear can affect them. this is why simple fights can get out of hand and severe injury and death can result.

every person should learn to defend themselves. i recommend judo to start with and then another martial art such as tae kwon do or any of the different karates.

but remember the best defense in a street fight is to run away.

Yes, given the accused also ended up in hospital with injuries, self-defence would seem a likely legal defence.

I never said it was justified, either, but don’t let that get in the way of your emotional ranting.

Absent Diane1:09 pm 07 Dec 06

yes it is completely absurd to speculate anything ’til details are known..

Even if he was – he still has a family – and no doubt that family has some fond memories of the deceased.

Still there is no such thing as absolution in death – as sad as death may be.

for the record – I knew someone who lived in fraser court – a 28 year old aboriginal girl who had a very promising career in the then ATSIC and a very nice textiles company – making indigenous artwork kimonos for national gallery.

So in this case – its 2 stereotypes we are breaking.

I think specualte after the facts are known.

Not ALL people that live in Kingston are junkies, but MOST people that live in Fraser Court are.
Its bad that someone got killed, but its easy to think, “who cares” or “one less drain on society” when a junkie gets kills.
The guy may not have been a junkie, but odds are that he was.

victimsfamily11:47 am 07 Dec 06

Self-defence? So it’s justified that all people living in Kingston are junkies etc, well wouldn’t that mean the accused is also a junkie???? Does he need to be murdered as well because it seems that it’s justified to murder junkies???? Please do not judge people before you know the whole story and circumstances. We are not being judgemental. Try to remember it may be one of your own family members one day.

I’d hazard a guess (again purely speculative) there was a fight of some sort, seeing as how he ended up in hospital as well.

Self-defence?

Yes, the wife and I were hypothesising last night that perhaps he got a little over-exuberant while discussing something with a fellow tenant. Anyone know where the incident took place? The TV footage seemed to be focussing on a stairwell.

Maybe he can use the battered wife syndrome as his defence. Shit had happened to him so many times that in the end he snapped and killed the perpetrator.

Absent Diane4:51 pm 06 Dec 06

Reflux kills??

I once had a dream that ants were made from the same enzymes as memories.. whatever the fuck that means.

Pretty sad story really. I’d speculate that he’d just had enough of fearful living in a dangerous shithole and finally snapped.

RELFEX KILLS

i just got an image in my mind – reflex kills – and saw random reams of paper hittin gpeople from a great height and killing them.

Almost as bad as when I had a dream about pushing a trolley catching coathangers that were falling from the sky…

True story that.

LOL RELFEX KILLS

sorry, everyone, it’s mid afternoon.

once a smacked-out junkie walked in front of my car on Northborne. i wish i didn’t have good relfex skills 🙁

sounds good woody.
I’m sure we’d be doing the world a favour anyways.

Woody: I guess the baby bonus is like the abortion antidote. I’m sure it makes Abbott happy.

Woody Mann-Caruso12:46 pm 06 Dec 06

I’ll do you a deal FC – you come murder my junkie / criminal / loser neighbours in their sleep, I’ll do the same for you, and we tell the police we were both at the Wig and Pen when it happened.

Woody Mann-Caruso12:43 pm 06 Dec 06

Heh – I knew about Levitt’s thoughts on abortion, but hadn’t considered the effect the baby bonus might have on crime in the future. Here’s to the Great Crime Wave of 2020!

he probably got sick and tired of dealing with the junkie losers.
I am not saying its right, but I have to say that I sometimes wonder if I will snap at my junkie/loser/criminal neighbours and run them over in the car, (I know that I wouldn’t though – as I am NORMAL and I understand that thats not the way to deal with things)

Absent Diane, you are right on the money there. Harvard economist Steven Levitt linked the legalisation of abortion in the United States in the mid-1970’s, with the plummeting crime-rate in the US in the late 1980’s. Fewer unwanted births equals fewer bogan children growing up to be criminals.

Absent Diane11:24 am 06 Dec 06

how long has baby bonus been around>? perhaps wait 12 or so years and it will be a lot worse!!

I think these types of deaths are occuring becuase too many dero f*cks are having too many dero kids and these dero kids are growing up to be loser drug f*cked dero adult crims!!

Two deaths occurring very close together (both time-wise and geographically) may give you that impression – but I’d be interested to see the stats before jumping to that conclusion.

I was on the scene just after a girl jumped off some flats in Braddon committing suicide a couple of years ago. Pretty dramatic but that wasn’t in the press. All very sad

Toastie – Ice has been around for eons – its just the media latching onto it because most of our precursors are coming from ofshore now. (Thats intel talk for pallets of pseudoephidrine being imported from SE Asia.)

Drugs and drug related violence/deaths go hand in hand – its just unfortunate that we have had 2 so close to eachother.

Perhaps its a bit of a Darwinian selection thing going on…

word on the street is that crimes like these are happening more because of the increase of Ice in Canberra.

It does seem to me that there has been an increase in these types of crimes.
but maybe I just pay more attention to it now than I did when I was younger..

Absent Diane12:03 pm 05 Dec 06

is it just me or is this type of crime in canberra way on the up. wonder if there are stats on the levels of crime increase in cities against population growth… tell me.

thats 2 deaths is as many weeks.
Good to know the Housing complexes are safe places.

Sammy – No names released yet but 106.3 is reporting the same.

Woody Mann-Caruso11:02 am 05 Dec 06

That’s not the incident. This is The Incident.

ABC News are reporting that someone has been charged with murder over the ‘incident’.

Wasn’t this where that body was found in the laneway a few weeks back?

All open sources are claiming an “Incident”
I suggest scant people know – as they have not made a police media release yet.

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