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Dickson chainsaw wielding bandit on a spree

By johnboy - 28 March 2013 56

ACT Policing has arrested a 34-year-old Dickson man after he entered a commercial premises on Cowlishaw Street, Greenway brandishing a running chainsaw.

Around 3.40pm this afternoon (March 28), police attended Flax House after receiving numerous Triple Zero (000) reports that a man entered the premise armed with a running chainsaw and caused extensive damage.

Due to public safety concerns, Flax House was evacuated while police responded to the incident.
A short time later, Tuggeranong General Duties officers took the man into custody. The man has been conveyed to the ACT Watch House where he will be charged with burglary-related offences.

Anyone who may have witnessed the incident and hasn’t already spoken to police, or has information which may assist police is urged to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or via www.act.crimestoppers.com.au.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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IrishPete 9:12 pm 31 Mar 13

He’s posting on Facebook from a psychiatric ward? Oh dear…

IP

Flossie 8:01 pm 31 Mar 13

We’re was the CATT team??? This was a perfect opportunity to suggest a warm bath and a cup of tea as something to assist a person in great distress. Could have made all the difference.

Mental health services in this town are disgustingly inadequate.

LumpySpacePrincess 2:42 pm 31 Mar 13

IrishPete said :

Apparently the Magistrate thought, or someone else in court convinced the Magistrate, this gent required a mental health assessment – http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/mental-check-after-attack-with-chainsaw-20130330-2h0p9.html – if the hospital decides otherwise he’ll be returned to police, the watchhouse and court, and probably thence to AMC. Depending on how quickly the hospital returns him to police, he could end up in AMC before returning to court.

Incidentally, an acquaintance of mine has a major grudge against a well-known hardware store because they sold his wife hose and tape which she then used to run from her car exhaust into the boot (hatchback) and kill herself. As noted by others, hardware stores’ checkouts are not staffed by experienced mental health workers.

IP

AMC?
He has a long history of mental instability. If you look him up on Facebook you can see he left a public post just minutes before the incident that sounds quite threatening.

If someone wants to hurt themselves or others there are a myriad of tools they can use. It’s not possible to restrict people from accessing everything and anything that could be used to cause physical harm. He needed medical intervention well before this happened.

IrishPete 9:42 am 31 Mar 13

Apparently the Magistrate thought, or someone else in court convinced the Magistrate, this gent required a mental health assessment – http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/mental-check-after-attack-with-chainsaw-20130330-2h0p9.html – if the hospital decides otherwise he’ll be returned to police, the watchhouse and court, and probably thence to AMC. Depending on how quickly the hospital returns him to police, he could end up in AMC before returning to court.

Incidentally, an acquaintance of mine has a major grudge against a well-known hardware store because they sold his wife hose and tape which she then used to run from her car exhaust into the boot (hatchback) and kill herself. As noted by others, hardware stores’ checkouts are not staffed by experienced mental health workers.

IP

AsparagusSyndrome 4:09 pm 30 Mar 13

Roundhead89 said :

Damn! Someone got in before me with the NRA reference. It’s the quick and the dead here, if you’ll pardon the expression 😉

Sorry to cut in on you like that … so to speak

Roundhead89 3:44 pm 30 Mar 13

Damn! Someone got in before me with the NRA reference. It’s the quick and the dead here, if you’ll pardon the expression 😉

Roundhead89 3:42 pm 30 Mar 13

ScienceRules said :

goggles13 said :

how does an ex-employee get past security with a chainsaw?

Clearly we must equip all security personnel with TWO chainsaws. It’s the only rational response.

Are you from the National Rifle Association?

AsparagusSyndrome 3:04 pm 30 Mar 13

ScienceRules said :

goggles13 said :

how does an ex-employee get past security with a chainsaw?

Clearly we must equip all security personnel with TWO chainsaws. It’s the only rational response.

I agree. And we should start the National Chainsaw Association, and advocate that every adult should have the right to own a chainsaw and carry it in public. Oh, wait, we already can do that.

OK… then… carry on as you were.

BimboGeek 10:35 am 30 Mar 13

It comes down to the difference between “insanity” which is a legal term of diminished responsibility and “mental illness” which is a medical term of suffering.

I don’t like it because anyone who commits a crime must have some problem to deal with and neatly dividing the minority off for mental health parole while sending most for punishment doesn’t help anyone to find a law abiding place in society.

They may just be unhappy or they may be hearing voices. They may have a vomit worthy paraphilia. So fix the problem.

Yeah maybe sane people wield chainsaws. But healthy people don’t.

IrishPete 9:25 am 30 Mar 13

So many giggles in this thread, which is a bit guilt-inducing given the subject matter, and the fear the people in workplace must have gone experienced.

But why is he obviously mentally ill? I have a bit of experience in this field, and sane people sometimes wield chainsaws too. His mother says he is mentally ill, but mothers will often say that, unwilling to accept that their offspring is just bad. (Of course we have our prior knowledge of the ACT Mental Health system to draw on, which pushes the scales in one particular direction.)

I note he was taken off to face court, not hospital for psychiatric assessment, but we shouldn’t even infer too much from that, as the police aren’t expert mental heath triage workers.

So not knowing the circumstances of this case, I can’t say which is true, so I’m going to keep an open mind for now.

IP

BimboGeek 1:12 am 30 Mar 13

How can anyone be shocked and horrified to learn that unrestricted hardware is sold without restriction? I mean, one might not feel comfortable supplying a chainsaw to someone who seems “odd” but one is not a trained and licensed psychiatrist. Can you imagine the headlines if a shop asked a man buying an axe to prove that he wasn’t planning on using it in battle?

Walker 11:34 pm 29 Mar 13

Pork Hunt said :

gooterz said :

bundah said :

We now have news that the mother of chainsaw man has apologised to those affected and mentioned that her son has been mentally ill for quite sometime.She said that they approached mental health on a number of occasions and apparently they failed to act.

Yet another one that has slipped through the cracks!

Why does mentally I’ll persons have access to a chainsaw?

Anyone know which place this was? There’s a real estate agent and used to be a coffee shop on one side. Or was it the upstairs place?

If he used to work there he can’t be that mentally ill?

People can go to a hardware store and buy all manner of items such as rope, cutting tools, power tools, chainsaws and digging tools (they come in handy for body disposal purposes).
I once saw a mentally ill person buying an axe and to my shock and horror, no checks were made.
This made me follow them home so that I knew where they lived incase the axe was meant for me.
When in line at Bunnings, I often look at other people in an effort to identify the nutters.

http://www.who.int/whr/2001/media_centre/press_release/en/

Hardware stores also supply mirrors.

steveu 5:30 pm 29 Mar 13

bigfeet said :

So it is a very serious offence. And probably the most appropriate offence.

There is no doubt that the person is suffering a mental illness, and presumably at the height of an episode – so how would the courts see that in terms of judgement (and if so, sentencing?) Asking the question thats all.

Ozi 5:22 pm 29 Mar 13

Pork Hunt said :

People can go to a hardware store and buy all manner of items such as rope, cutting tools, power tools, chainsaws and digging tools (they come in handy for body disposal purposes).
I once saw a mentally ill person buying an axe and to my shock and horror, no checks were made.
This made me follow them home so that I knew where they lived incase the axe was meant for me.
When in line at Bunnings, I often look at other people in an effort to identify the nutters.

http://www.who.int/whr/2001/media_centre/press_release/en/

Yeah, following him home would have definitely made him less paranoid. Well played. Poor bloke probably just wanted to cut down a tree.

I think we need another amendment to our laws (lets call it the second amendment) which allows everyone to carry a chainsaw for personal protection, and maybe allow licences to be issued for “covert carry” chainsaws. Only then will society be safe.

bigfeet 5:17 pm 29 Mar 13

LumpySpacePrincess said :

Surely he will be charged with more than burglary related offences, he threatened people with a deadly weapon FFS!

Actually this is exactly what burglary is…. Entering a premises as a trespasser with intent to cause harm to anyone in the building…(S311(1)(b) ACT Criminal Code)

And the fact that he was armed makes it aggravated burglary (Sect 312 ACT Criminal Code)…which carries a maximum penalty of 20 years.

So it is a very serious offence. And probably the most appropriate offence.

Pork Hunt 4:20 pm 29 Mar 13

gooterz said :

bundah said :

We now have news that the mother of chainsaw man has apologised to those affected and mentioned that her son has been mentally ill for quite sometime.She said that they approached mental health on a number of occasions and apparently they failed to act.

Yet another one that has slipped through the cracks!

Why does mentally I’ll persons have access to a chainsaw?

Anyone know which place this was? There’s a real estate agent and used to be a coffee shop on one side. Or was it the upstairs place?

If he used to work there he can’t be that mentally ill?

People can go to a hardware store and buy all manner of items such as rope, cutting tools, power tools, chainsaws and digging tools (they come in handy for body disposal purposes).
I once saw a mentally ill person buying an axe and to my shock and horror, no checks were made.
This made me follow them home so that I knew where they lived incase the axe was meant for me.
When in line at Bunnings, I often look at other people in an effort to identify the nutters.

http://www.who.int/whr/2001/media_centre/press_release/en/

Ko. 4:04 pm 29 Mar 13

gooterz said :

bundah said :

We now have news that the mother of chainsaw man has apologised to those affected and mentioned that her son has been mentally ill for quite sometime.She said that they approached mental health on a number of occasions and apparently they failed to act.

Yet another one that has slipped through the cracks!

Why does mentally I’ll persons have access to a chainsaw?

Anyone know which place this was? There’s a real estate agent and used to be a coffee shop on one side. Or was it the upstairs place?

If he used to work there he can’t be that mentally ill?

umm?

gooterz 3:29 pm 29 Mar 13

bundah said :

We now have news that the mother of chainsaw man has apologised to those affected and mentioned that her son has been mentally ill for quite sometime.She said that they approached mental health on a number of occasions and apparently they failed to act.

Yet another one that has slipped through the cracks!

Why does mentally I’ll persons have access to a chainsaw?

Anyone know which place this was? There’s a real estate agent and used to be a coffee shop on one side. Or was it the upstairs place?

If he used to work there he can’t be that mentally ill?

bundah 1:31 pm 29 Mar 13

We now have news that the mother of chainsaw man has apologised to those affected and mentioned that her son has been mentally ill for quite sometime.She said that they approached mental health on a number of occasions and apparently they failed to act.

Yet another one that has slipped through the cracks!

LumpySpacePrincess 12:57 pm 29 Mar 13

goggles13 said :

how does an ex-employee get past security with a chainsaw?

There was no security to get passed. Just a glass door you need a pass to open….. Or a chainsaw

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