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Disabled parking review released into the wild

By johnboy 21 June 2009 75

[First filed: June 19, 2009 @ 21:49]

TAMS has unveiled their review into disabled parking.

A quick reading of the executive summary suggests all is not not in compliance with standards in the ACT. (Would we really expect anything different?)

    Only a few disabled parking spaces comply with all of the criteria identified in the relevant standards. This study found that although many of the disabled parking spaces provided within the ACT town and group centres do not comply with the relevant standards for the physical design of the spaces most are suitable for unconstrained use by disabled persons.

Anyway the recommendations are interesting:

    A rate of 3% of spaces for disabled parking would better meet the demand for disabled parking and should be considered for implementation in public car parks. This parking would need to be located close to likely destinations. Where there is likely to be an overall shortage of standard parking, a much higher percentage of disabled parking should be provided. Centres such as Manuka provide far beyond the required levels of disabled parking, however all spaces were utilised throughout most of the survey period, there was a clear shortage of parking provided generally with the majority of standard parking also occupied most of the time.

    Additional disabled parking is recommended for Manuka.

    Disabled parking is recommended to be relocated at Jamison to better access the revised shopping centre arrangements.

    Additional disabled parking should be considered at centres where there is one or less available space at any of the survey times: Ainslie, Charnwood, Coolemon Court, Weston, Kippax and Southlands.

    There appears to be a case to review the basis upon which parking permits are issued in oreder [Sic] to better understand the dramatic increase in the number of permits issued and the corresponding increase in parking demand for disabled persons.

The lack of proofing in the report is somewhat alarming.

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MartyMcFly 10:56 am 03 Jul 09

Actually, i’m just talking shit. I’m stuck in a wheelchair….. i dont actually care if they are taken…. its not gonna hurt me to push a bit further…..

MartyMcFly 10:53 am 03 Jul 09

I park in the disability spots cos its closer to the entrance… and cos they wider nobody slams their car door into my Barina…. I’m not disabled but hey i figure its not being used then, might as well make use of my tax paying money.

peterh 9:55 am 23 Jun 09

Joshua said :

peterH #58, no I don’t have kids. Don’t want them, they’re apparently extremely inconvenient when you want to do things like go to the shops. Just because you do have kids doesn’t make you special. I went to school with 16 year olds that had them, it aint hard. Nobody made you have kids, my taxes I suspect help pay for your little darlings (and no I don’t expect they’ll be paying me a pension some day) so stop being a victim, children correct me if I’m wrong are not a disability.

your taxes do not pay for my children. my wife and i survive on a my incomes. plural. I also went to school with 16yo’s who had kids. big whoop. my children cost me more than you will ever earn, IVF does that to you. Not a victim, just think that you should know more about the facts before you rope me into the welfare payment parent group. I don’t ask for handouts from the govt, and saw the stimulus payment as a way to get some of the tax I had paid over the years back. same as the child bonus. If you think that kids are extremely inconvenient, I hope you at least wake up first. Best thing i have ever done. yes, the parking is a pain sometimes, but mainly due to idiots who park in the spots without kids. Once my children are out of the pram, I won’t be using the spaces.

Granny 9:55 am 23 Jun 09

It needs to be changed, but in a way that is actually helpful to the people who rely on it: http://cranleighparentsandfriends.blogspot.com/2009/03/sick-of-being-grateful.html.

ant 9:33 am 23 Jun 09

What Joshua said, +1.

The trouble with it being doctor-certificate-based, is that sadly, doctors aren’t very good at being a regulatory body for things like this. The system clearly isn’t working for the people it is for, and needs to be changed.

Clown Killer 9:06 am 23 Jun 09

If they want more disabled spaces they could start by making the shopping centres convert those stupid spots they try and set aside for parents with kiddies.

Those parents-with-prams spots carry no regulatory weight whatsoever anyone can park in them. They’re just put in by the shopping centre management because they want to make visiting their shopping centre more appealing to this demographic who have been identified through market research to be high yeild customers – mum or dad will stay in the centre longer and spend more if it’s easier to manage with the kids. It’s the same reason they have baby rooms – not because they are obliged to provide them, but because without them parents feel that its easier to take the kids home to change, feed whatever.

Thumper 8:25 am 23 Jun 09

I know an ex army infantry type guy who looks fit and healthy and certainly not disabled in any way.

Except that he suffered a serious back injuries many, many years ago which, when it flares up, renders him almost crippled. Apart from the fact he is in almost constant pain.

He could have a disabled sticker but refuses to on the grounds that disabled stickers are so really disabled people can get to the shops or wherever. Not lazy people, not people who rort the sytem through some minor medical condition and not people who couldn’t give a toss.

Granny 12:59 am 23 Jun 09

I am as against abuse of the system as anyone, Pandy, if not more. And I am very grateful that so many others in the community, like yourself, feel the same way.

Carers and people with a disability do need the help and support of their community, as many have reached the end of their tether and are finding it difficult to cope as exemplified in this article by Sue Corrigan.

Pandy 12:21 am 23 Jun 09

Well a wheelchair is one thing. But anyone who can walk, I don’t believe the abuse i have seen in the system too.

Granny 12:14 am 23 Jun 09

No. It is. My daughter is not going to magically walk tomorrow, and I don’t need any more of that bureaucratic crap in my life.

Pandy 12:10 am 23 Jun 09

Granny, I have seen people with permanet conditions dancing. If they can dance, maybe they don’t need a sticker? Once a year is not too much to ask for to go and see a doctor, especially as they will be saving thousands in parking fees.

Granny 11:31 pm 22 Jun 09

Yes, the spaces should definitely only be used by carers when the person with a disability is being transported, but once again be careful how you judge that as noted by willo.

The stickers should not be reviewed every year if the condition is permanent. We are all so sick of doctors’ appointments and filling out paperwork rubbish. No-one would be happier if there was a sudden miracle cure than those with stickers, but for most people this is not likely to be the case.

How many times do you need to tell someone that you’ve had your leg cut off, for goodness’ sake?

People with a disability and their carers have made it abundantly clear that they would like to be able to tell their story once. Every single time ….

If the condition is likely to change it is the responsibility of the doctor to specify the time period for the permit, and one would presume this is not difficult. If the process needs scrutiny and accountability all well and good, but the logical mechanism for review is still inherently at the length of time stipulated by the medical practitioner.

Joshua 10:59 pm 22 Jun 09

peterH #58, no I don’t have kids. Don’t want them, they’re apparently extremely inconvenient when you want to do things like go to the shops. Just because you do have kids doesn’t make you special. I went to school with 16 year olds that had them, it aint hard. Nobody made you have kids, my taxes I suspect help pay for your little darlings (and no I don’t expect they’ll be paying me a pension some day) so stop being a victim, children correct me if I’m wrong are not a disability.

Bundybear #62, regarding your second point and the moving van. I keep a tyre valve tightener that I picked up one day at SuperCheap Auto in my car. Very useful in that sort of situation. May not move the bastard but I can guarantee you from experience that a suitable written note on the windscreen along with 4 completely flat tyres is enough to ensure that the individual doesn’t park there again.

Bundybear 7:52 pm 22 Jun 09

“I have seen people who are carers park in the spots, do their shopping and come back with no sign of the disabled person in their care, perhaps they are somewhere else. carers do a great job looking after their family and others in their care, but if there is no disabled person in the car, and it is not a case of a pickup, maybe they could park in another spot?”
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No maybe about it, it is illegal to use a disabled permit for any situation other then when transporting the disabled person the permit has been issued to. T has a permit, always in a wheelchair, but uses the permit so rarely that when I went to renew it, I found it had expired by about six months. Why, ’cause it’s virtually impossible to access a disabled spot. Why, ’cause there’s too many selfish and inconsiderate tossers out there who can’t think past their own immediate needs to consider anyone else.
My classic is the guy who parked a hired moving van in the disabled space, put his mum’s permit on the dash, went to collect a “couple of things to put in storage for mum” and came back FOUR DAYS later. Private building, no access to rangers, no fine. All I could do was leave him notes about what a tosser he was, and to let him know that the man dying of cancer who needs access to the space had appreciated the hoops he had to jump through to get to medical appointments.
Said tosser attempted to do the same thing again a couple of months later – no one in the universe matters but him – but I politely suggested that might not be a terribly good idea, and he got the hint.

s-s-a 11:11 am 22 Jun 09

I have seen people who are carers park in the spots, do their shopping and come back with no sign of the disabled person in their care, perhaps they are somewhere else. carers do a great job looking after their family and others in their care, but if there is no disabled person in the car, and it is not a case of a pickup, maybe they could park in another spot?

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